Tom & Jerry Spotlight Collection Censored! - Page 9

Sean Gaffney · #81 10-20-2004, 12:59 PM

I wonder if the Touche, Pussy Cat problem is because they used the Widescreen version rather than the fullscreen. Were there actual differences in content between the two?

Scaramanga · #82 10-20-2004, 01:21 PM

As far as Touché Pussy Cat goes: it's normal that the lyrics by Nibbles / Tuffy / that little grey mouse on Frere Jacques are missing. That's because it's the one and only cartoon that has a stereo soundtrack. Somehow it seems that way back in the 50's when the stero soundtrack for the short was composited someone forgot to add those lines. Stereo wasn't common back then, so of course a mono soundtrack for the short was also prepared (or was it done first ?) anyway, they did add the dialogue in that one.

So there's nothing wrong with the dialogue or soundtrack in Touche Pussy Cat, that's just the way the stereo soundtrack is ...

To answer another question: the full screen version of the short is a horrid pan & scan version. To be avoided at all cost.

**Matthew Hunter** · #83 10-20-2004, 03:53 PM

I think it sucks that the set is edited, but I don't mind it if they're offering a mail-in replacement. I know Jerry Beck had nothing to do with the cuts. I do expect to have the mail-in offer honored if I buy the set, though, and I should hope that they'll make it very well-known that they're doing it, so that every buyer of the set has the option. The more people that send it back, the more Warner Home Video will realize that they can't pull this move and expect people to tolerate it. The worst thing we as fans and historians can do is to NOT send it back. Sure, these seem like pretty minor edits...but they're still edits and they're still deliberate censorship. They should save the edits for the little 7-cartoon fluff collections they release of Tom and Jerry, and not a collector's set.
-Matthew

**Duck Dodgers** · #84 10-20-2004, 04:52 PM

jerry beck said that the process of replacing the disc would take even two months(he said 6 to 8 weeks)and probably more time to wait to have the uncut set be available in stores!!

i think i'll wait january to order the set and probably i'll be able for that time,here in italy,to order a direct uncut set!

janiepooh34 · #85 10-20-2004, 05:12 PM

Aside from the obvious edits, has anyone else had problems with their dvds? I am not hearing the commentary on Kitty Foiled. Commentary works on Zoot Cat and Heavenly Puss just fine so I know that it is not me being in the wrong menu.

MF TOON · #86 10-20-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by duck dodgers

jerry beck said that the process of replacing the disc would take even two months(he said 6 to 8 weeks)and probably more time to wait to have the uncut set be available in stores!!

i think i'll wait january to order the set and probably i'll be able for that time,here in italy,to order a direct uncut set!

Where's this? Has WB came forth with any definitive information or instructions on how to go about replacing the censored discs?

lorentz.dl · #87 10-20-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scaramanga

As far as Touché Pussy Cat goes: it's normal that the lyrics by Nibbles / Tuffy / that little grey mouse on Frere Jacques are missing. That's because it's the one and only cartoon that has a stereo soundtrack. Somehow it seems that way back in the 50's when the stero soundtrack for the short was composited someone forgot to add those lines. Stereo wasn't common back then, so of course a mono soundtrack for the short was also prepared (or was it done first ?) anyway, they did add the dialogue in that one.

So there's nothing wrong with the dialogue or soundtrack in Touche Pussy Cat, that's just the way the stereo soundtrack is ...

To answer another question: the full screen version of the short is a horrid pan & scan version. To be avoided at all cost.

Years ago the BBC in the UK used to show Touché Pussy Cat and another Tom and Jerry short Pet Peeve in fullscreen and they were not pan and scan prnits.. I have these versions on VHS and they are not the fullscreen pan and scan versions that appear on the Tom and Jerry Classic Collection discs that are available in Europe that are truely awful.. this makes me think that these two shorts exist in three different versions ; widescreen, pan and scan and fullscreen.. can someone confirm please??? The VHS versions of Tom and Jerry Cartoon festival released in the late 1980's in the UK were also uncut and without the horrendous dubbing of Mammy's voice.. I have taken the audio from these cartoons and put them on these new dvd releases where it was possible.. It seems that they have used the same masters for the Spotlight Collection dvd.. On the plus side we have unedited versions of Casanova Cat and His Mouse Friday in the Classic Collection set but we are missing Million Dollar Cat and Busy Buddies..

Sean Gaffney · #88 10-20-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by janiepooh34

Aside from the obvious edits, has anyone else had problems with their dvds? I am not hearing the commentary on Kitty Foiled. Commentary works on Zoot Cat and Heavenly Puss just fine so I know that it is not me being in the wrong menu.

Kitty Foiled has a commentary on my copy. In fact, Jerry says it's his favorite Tom and Jerry.

rodney · #89 10-20-2004, 07:13 PM

Let's not forget that they could pull a Spumco and just tell us that the edits aren't their fault. I for one am grateful that they made another decision.

cabe624 · #90 10-20-2004, 08:17 PM

Well, it really sucks that I might have to wait 6-8 weeks for a replacement. However, I'm glad that WB is going to do it at all.