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Old 02-15-2007, 02:48 PM
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I take back my previous statements.


Whichever department is responsible for the Tom & Jerry series, ought to be looking for another line of work.


I'm utterly astonished at just how completely incompetent these people are!


The poster who commented about the discs being incorrectly flagged was 100% right! I just watched The Invisible Mouse last night and had to turn it off because it wasn't viewable. It looks worse than the cartoons on disc 4 of the LTGC2!


How can ANYONE be this stupid???


Really.. I'd like to know how this is possible.


They must have a group of trained monkeys in the studio mastering this stuff because their track record has now reached a point where it's almost funny how many times a single company can screw up in the exact same ways!


So far I've only watched The Invisible Mouse - but the entire cartoon was marred by interlacing artifacts and vertical lines, blurred movement, etc.


Isn't this why they have supposedly implemented a replacement program for the Looney Tunes set?


At this point... I think they should just offer customers a percentage of their money back for what they've had to endure between the false promises, mislead advertising, edited cartoons, dubbed cartoons, duplicate cartoons!, complete lack of restoration & shameful quality of the sourced prints, 3-years of waiting for any legitemate response... and now to top it off, they replace the discs with horrendous mastering errors that render the cartoons unwatchable!


It's a conspiracy!


Seriosuly... they should take every last inventory stock and dump them in the trash, and than give each and every one of us who were strung along for three years - brand new & fully restored, complete & chronological, uncut & unedited box sets collecting the entire run of MGM cartoons in one package. Along with a hand written letter of apology for the absolute worst quality product of any home video release I've purchased in history.


Maybe the whole purpose of this "spotlight" collection is to focus just that; set some sort of Guiness record for the most overpriced sham collection of anything issued on DVD of such degree of negligance and stupidity.

I think that about sums up my rant.


Oh, and I will not be sending any "replacement discs" back to the company. Instead, I'll include a short hand-written note in the return envelope explaining why I think the people they've hired to handle these sets are unskilled hacks who might very well be cartoon characters themselves based on their consistency in absolute lack of proficiency and common sense when it comes to overseeing a consumer product.

Cheers.
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Old 02-15-2007, 02:56 PM
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And if you would like a shortened overview of the above:

The replacement discs are essentially useless because the cartoons are now incorrectly flagged meaning that in order to view them in their "original unedited form"... you will have to endure horrible pixelization, image breakup and blurred horizontal lines accross your television screen.


So in turn, thanks a lot Warner Bros!


Does your complete lack of efficiency in quality control justify the cost of pressing thousands of useless discs? Was this even necessary?
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:04 PM
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Does anyone know what the costs of spotlights 1&2 are right now? I decieded not to buy them when I first heard about the edits and errors, but since its being fix though the mail I'll buy now.
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:11 PM
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I take back my previous statements.

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Oh, and I will not be sending any "replacement discs" back to the company. Instead, I'll include a short hand-written note in the return envelope explaining why I think the people they've hired to handle these sets are unskilled hacks who might very well be cartoon characters themselves based on their consistency in absolute lack of proficiency and common sense when it comes to overseeing a consumer product.

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Old 02-15-2007, 03:49 PM
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Just venting a bit...


You know, I'd be a lot less upset about all of this, if I hadn't ran out and purchased both sets recently based on the fact that WHV were going to make good on their errors.


When I first discovered this problem, I felt a bit nauseous and sat in the corner of my bedroom. I noticed a rash accross my stomach which looked like it was spreading into hives. Than I suddenly broke out into a cold feverish sweat and began to repeatedly punch myself in the face. In a burst of untamed adrenaline I ran right down the hallway of my apartment, banging into walls like a headless chicken and ran right out into the street not even realizing that I was completely naked. I started rolling in the snow and convulsing all the while shouting obscenities at passing cars until I blanked out and when I came to again, I was laying face down in my bathtub with a jar of nutella smeared accross my chest and goose feathers from torn pillows scattered about the room plastered on me, clutching an empty bottle of scotch and rubbing alcohol which I apparently started to drink before I passed out. That was one week ago, apparently I went on a serious bender.

I think I'm okay now though.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:18 PM
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[...] You know, I'd be a lot less upset about all of this, if I hadn't ran out and purchased both sets recently based on the fact that WHV were going to make good on their errors.


When I first discovered this problem, I felt a bit nauseous and sat in the corner of my bedroom. I noticed a rash accross my stomach which looked like it was spreading into hives. Than I suddenly broke out into a cold feverish sweat and began to repeatedly punch myself in the face. In a burst of untamed adrenaline I ran right down the hallway of my apartment, banging into walls like a headless chicken and ran right out into the street not even realizing that I was completely naked. I started rolling in the snow and convulsing all the while shouting obscenities at passing cars until I blanked out and when I came to again, I was laying face down in my bathtub with a jar of nutella smeared accross my chest and goose feathers from torn pillows scattered about the room plastered on me, clutching an empty bottle of scotch and rubbing alcohol which I apparently started to drink before I passed out. That was one week ago, apparently I went on a serious bender.

I think I'm okay now though.
Well, after having spat out the first three paragraphs of Mike Hammer on Crack in the space of a single breath, who wouldn't feel better?

But I do see where you're coming from. And someday, WHV will answer for its sins.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:24 PM
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The replacement discs are essentially useless because the cartoons are now incorrectly flagged
Do you mean all of the cartoons, or just the replaced ones? I'd heard of people reporting this problem, but only ever WRT the previously censored shorts.
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:17 PM
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MF_TOON and others who have problems with the "corrected" Tom and Jerry Vol1:

My replacement is hopefully sitting at my friends house while he is on vacation. My question is: When you are getting the poor pictures - what type of TV? Tube or Plasma or LCD or via computer.

I have a tube TV and have played the 4th disk on the Looney Tunes Collection Vol 2 with the Interlace problems ("Book Revue", Cory Concerto, I love to Singa, Have you Got and Castles, and Hollywood Steps Out). On my TV and DVD-Player they show up fine, in both NTSC mode and PAL mode.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:33 PM
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The problems that MF Toon has described do not bother me. In fact, I would probably not notice them alot, and I intend on buying T&J somewhere along the line eventually. The only thing keeping me from purchasing the DVD is the cartoons with the abusive maid, but I'm sure I can get over that.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:41 PM
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Unfortunately I actually don't "own" a television set in my apt.


I have front DLP projection and that is how I screen all of my DVDs, it also makes it a hell of a lot more difficult to deal with stupid issues like this because of the way my components are setup.


I will run through some more shorts tonight if I have the time and report back on exactly which films are affected and in what way.

So far, the only shorts I've seen were The Invisible Mouse and The Cat Concerto and I listened to some of Jerr's audio commentaries... but the strangest thing to me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even think that The Invisible Mouse was initially censored or tampered with on the original pressing. I can't think of any reason it would be.. I don't think there's anything potentially controversial in that film. So I can't explain why it's completely unwatchable on this 'replacement' disc they sent me...


I'll try to screen some more tonight and let you guys know the outcome.
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