Huckleberry Hound Opening/Closing Question

[Chris Mulwee]

The new DVD set features the original version(s) of the Huckleberry
Hound opening and closing sequences with the Kellogg's Corn Flakes rooster.
These are obviously the way they were presented in 1958.

Now, here's the question. Does ANYONE know when the more familiar
re-created opening and closing; with Huck Hound himself replacing the rooster
was done? I'm surprised that the more familiar re-run opening was not included
on the set, even though I think the original Kellogg's titles are still superior.

Also, why did they freeze frame out the Screen Gems Torch Lady logo?
It can be seen on a Toon Tracker tape, but why is it not shown here.
Why does H-B want to "eliminate" it's SCREEN GEMS heritage. Does
Time Warner video not want to show the logo of ANOTHER studio or something? Perhaps it's a legal thing?

Anyone have answers?

[Studio Toledo]

Originally Posted by Chris Mulwee

The new DVD set features the original version(s) of the Huckleberry
Hound opening and closing sequences with the Kellogg's Corn Flakes rooster.
These are obviously the way they were presented in 1958.

Now, here's the question. Does ANYONE know when the more familiar
re-created opening and closing; with Huck Hound himself replacing the rooster
was done? I'm surprised that the more familiar re-run opening was not included
on the set, even though I think the original Kellogg's titles are still superior.

Also, why did they freeze frame out the Screen Gems Torch Lady logo?
It can be seen on a Toon Tracker tape, but why is it not shown here.
Why does H-B want to "eliminate" it's SCREEN GEMS heritage. Does
Time Warner video not want to show the logo of ANOTHER studio or something? Perhaps it's a legal thing?

Anyone have answers?

That could be the reason.

Speaking of which, did they kept the clever "Columbia" logo seen at the opening of "The Man Called Flintstone" on DVD? I was thinking of that as I have the older VHS copy anyway.

[J Lee]

Originally Posted by Chris Mulwee

The new DVD set features the original version(s) of the Huckleberry
Hound opening and closing sequences with the Kellogg's Corn Flakes rooster.
These are obviously the way they were presented in 1958.

Now, here's the question. Does ANYONE know when the more familiar
re-created opening and closing; with Huck Hound himself replacing the rooster
was done? I'm surprised that the more familiar re-run opening was not included
on the set, even though I think the original Kellogg's titles are still superior.

Also, why did they freeze frame out the Screen Gems Torch Lady logo?
It can be seen on a Toon Tracker tape, but why is it not shown here.
Why does H-B want to "eliminate" it's SCREEN GEMS heritage. Does
Time Warner video not want to show the logo of ANOTHER studio or something? Perhaps it's a legal thing?

Anyone have answers?

The new opening was Huck was done when the Kellogg's deal ended, in 1964. As for eliminating the Screen Gems logo, Hollywood studios and other rights holders have been in the habit of "rewriting" history ever since the first theatrical films were sold for TV broadcast in the 1950s. Even Columbia's recent and current owners, Coca-Cola and now Sony, got into the habit of trying to eliminate the Screen Gems logo on the TV shows they owned by replacing them with some new logo with their name (Sony still does that on the B&W episodes of "Bewitched" and "I Dream of Jeannie" in syndication -- no end SG logo, only "Sony Pictures Television").

[TheBlueHombre]

Originally Posted by Chris Mulwee

The new DVD set features the original version(s) of the Huckleberry
Hound opening and closing sequences with the Kellogg's Corn Flakes rooster.
These are obviously the way they were presented in 1958.

Now, here's the question. Does ANYONE know when the more familiar
re-created opening and closing; with Huck Hound himself replacing the rooster
was done? I'm surprised that the more familiar re-run opening was not included
on the set, even though I think the original Kellogg's titles are still superior.

Also, why did they freeze frame out the Screen Gems Torch Lady logo?
It can be seen on a Toon Tracker tape, but why is it not shown here.
Why does H-B want to "eliminate" it's SCREEN GEMS heritage. Does
Time Warner video not want to show the logo of ANOTHER studio or something? Perhaps it's a legal thing?

Anyone have answers?

I wonder if the Huck open with Mr. Hound himself instead of the Kellogg's rooster was actually done when the show first aired in 1958. Kellogg's was not the sponsor of the show overseas in European countries or Australia or South America. Kellogg's helped sponsor the first Huckleberry Hound record in America; it was dubbed "Huckleberry Hound - The Great Kellogg's Show." I bought a British copy of the same record but the word "Kellogg's" was removed and the word "Family" was put in its place. It is exactly the same cover and record material, but no Kellogg's mention.

I'm wondering if the Huck open was redone when the show first debuted with the American audience getting the Kelloggs' material and other countries getting the non-sponsor edition. This would go along with other H-B characters showing up in the show close instead of the Kellogg's characters. With the show close that features Pixie, Dixie, Jinks, Yogi and Boo Boo; you'll notice it's the same credits as the close with Tony the Tiger, Rooster, etc.

Would anyone know about this speculation of mine?

[J Lee]

No, the animation was done new, or at the very least, sometime between 1961 and '64 -- aside from the fact that in the re-done version for U.S. TV stations, Yogi and Boo Boo are not in the end credits (because they had their own show by then) you can look at the early Hanna-Barbera work and see a progression in drawing style of the characters in the same way you could with the early designs of the theatrical cartoons as the animators and directors polished their work; the designs used in the new closing titles were definitely those done after they had been around for a couple of years.

That doesn't mean there wasn't a version done for foreign distribution sometime between 1958 and 1961, just that it's not the version that has commonly been seen in the U.S. for the past 40 years.

[rodinei1964]

São Paulo - SP, Brazil, October 3, 2006.

Hello, Blue Hombre and all the HB-fans from the world!

Only to refresh the memory of our HB-fanatics, here are the snapshots of the 1964 version from the overture of The Huckleberry Hound Show (Hanna-Barbera/Columbia Pictures, 1958-62):



This 1964 version from the overture of The Huckleberry Hound Show, was vehiculated on the TV stations from the whole world (including Brazil), until the late 80s. And I remember very much of this overture. It was animated by Kenneth Muse.
This overture wasn't broadcasted by Cartoon Network (http://cartoonnetwork.com or http://www.cartoonnetworkla.com/english), neither by Boomerang (http://cartoonnetwork.com/boomerang or http://www.boomerangla.com/english).
Well, this was what I've had to report here.
Ciao!

Cheers from this faithful friend who always writes 4 U,

Rodinei Campos da Silveira (from São Paulo, Brazil)
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"Oh my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling Clementine..."

HANNA-BARBERA - SPACE GHOST - 40 YEARS



Attention, HB-fans! Enjoy to visit the new Hanna-Barbera official site (http://hanna-barbera.com) and have some fun!

LONG LIFE FOR WILLIAM HANNA & JOSEPH BARBERA!

[Jon Cooke]

Originally Posted by J Lee

No, the animation was done new, or at the very least, sometime between 1961 and '64 -- aside from the fact that in the re-done version for U.S. TV stations, Yogi and Boo Boo are not in the end credits (because they had their own show by then).

Oddly, I recall Yakky Doodle being in the reanimated Huck show ending (or at least the version of the closing that Cartoon Network/Boomerang would run now and then). Can somebody confirm this ... or am I remembering wrong?

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Originally Posted by Jon Cooke

Oddly, I recall Yakky Doodle being in the reanimated Huck show ending (or at least the version of the closing that Cartoon Network/Boomerang would run now and then). Can somebody confirm this ... or am I remembering wrong?

You are correct, sir!

Similar to the Ricochet Rabbit/Brezzly and Sneezly swap, when Kellogg's stopped sponsoring the show and the titles were reanimated (see the frame grabs from our friend in Brazil), Pixie & Dixie and Yakky Doodle switched shows. I can only speculate as to the reason. Possibly to make them different than the Kellogg's versions.

[TheBlueHombre]

Originally Posted by rodinei1964

[font=Comic Sans MS]São Paulo - SP, Brazil, October 3, 2006.

Hello, Blue Hombre and all the HB-fans from the world!

And a great big hound dog howdy back to you, Rodinei. It's always good to hear from you. Thanks for the insights on the Huck opening. I like the one with Huckleberry in the opening instead of the rooster. Great screen shots, too! Obrigado!

[MarkTheShark]

Originally Posted by TheBlueHombre

And a great big hound dog howdy back to you, Rodinei. It's always good to hear from you. Thanks for the insights on the Huck opening. I like the one with Huckleberry in the opening instead of the rooster. Great screen shots, too! Obrigado!

Yeah, but it's so typical of those reanimated H-B segments. Huck leaps up and rings the bell, and then "flies" down...that makes sense with a rooster doing it, but not a dog. (Well, okay, "glides" down.) Just like the Magilla Gorilla "curtain calls," where Breezly falls out of the jalopy, then ping-ping-ping Sneezly Seal darts back and saves him.

"We really hate to tell you but we have to be off, we really think it's time for us to go, but you know RICOCHET the Goofy Guards and old Peter Potamus, yeah the whole lot of us, will return and..."