NSTC to PAL

Thad · #1 11-18-2009, 09:59 AM

(I know it's off-topic but I thought it'd get more views here.)

Does anyone know of a program that can convert NSTC VOB files to PAL VOB files? Can you do it in Nero? Let me know, thanks.

Bradskey · #2 11-18-2009, 10:23 AM

Apparently Nero Vision may be able to do this for you:

http://my.nero.com/index.php?__path=...OcqFjz4lPFBv#0

Thad · #3 11-18-2009, 10:29 AM

Awesome, that's exactly what I have on my other computer. Thanks!

Tom Stathes · #4 11-18-2009, 03:12 PM

I posted this on another forum, as I'm looking to get from 30fps back to 24 (not necessarily PAL's 25fps, but that would also be appropriate):

"I can't afford for the conversion from 30fps to 24 to drop any random frames- it ruins the fluidity of the animation. If anyone knows of a "magic bullet", a program that lets you drop a specific frame such as every 5th [duplicate] frame...lets you render the whole file automatically with something like "remove every 5th frame", even better. I found some discussions but am not sure if they address the problem exactly:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/.../t-275710.html

"Premiere Pro gives you the control to work with 24p
Premiere 6.5 and back, don't drop the neccisary frames. It does capture the footage, but it doesn't drop the duplicate frames or interlaced frames.

How it works. To keep the same tape standards to work with MiniDV, The cameras that record 24p Advanced, capture 24 fps, and every 5 frames either add a duplicate of the last, or an interlaced frame to make it 29.97 fps. When using software that understands this, the software drops every 5th frame and lets you edit in 24fps."

and-

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/archive/in.../t-172475.html

"i've tried using compressor to straight-up re-time it, but it just drops every 5th frame and looks stuttery... is there a special technique? frame blending of some sort? "

(Isn't this what we need?)"

Steve Stanch · #5 11-18-2009, 07:05 PM

Hey Thad and Tom!!!!

Feel free to get a hold of me ANYTIME about these kind of things-I thought you had this stuff all figured out now since you're working with Ray. I'm not a tech guy by ANY means, but I've learned a bunch of things along the way to making better DVDs- and am ALWAYS willing to help you guys out no matter what!

I've become an almost expert at pulldown removal and speed changes and all that stuff just out of necessity. If you're starting with PAL, that's a whole other thing though... I'd recommend capturing the footage at 25p (since the interlace is together frame-wise on PAL) and then converting the speed using after effects (I'll explain the equation to use if you're interested).

For 29.97 to 24p, here is your best bet, but you have to make sure all your ducks are in a row in that your source has the pulldown correct in the first place.... If you're coming from a VOB, sometimes it converts odd and then you have ALL sorts of other little issues...it's best to run through a dazzle or similar converter and capture into Final Cut or Premiere at 29.97 (NOT at 24p) then convert afterwords. Better still to master on something other than a DVD in the first place (since you're getting a compressed version to start with that of a much less quality). If you're on a budget, master on Mini-DVD, then you can capture the footage via a firewire (since you're on a Mac).

NTSC video runs at 29.97. There's a great little FREE mac program called Jes deinterlacer......

http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html

......that will convert a 29.97 quicktime or AVI to 24p (really 23.98 if you're coming from ntsc).

It will make a nice, clean, fieldless version. It will also take fields out of a 29.97 files without loss of quality- very helpful with files that have a 5 blade transfer (like a lot of that old video stuff).

Hope this helps! Now, your turn to share- and send that xfer of POTS an PANS!

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trondmm · #6 11-20-2009, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thad

Does anyone know of a program that can convert NSTC VOB files to PAL VOB files? Can you do it in Nero? Let me know, thanks.

I'm sorry, I just have to ask: Why?

Are you really sure you actually need to do this? If you're sending DVDs to people living in PAL-land, there's a 99.95% certainty (warning: made up nummber) that they can view NTSC DVDs. Every European DVD-player is capable of playing NTSC DVDs, and outputting NTSC, and I don't think there's been sold a single TV in Europe the last 15 years that cannot display NTSC.

If someone has requested PAL DVDs, it's most likely that they've never tried to play NTSC DVDs, and just assume that it won't work.

I think it'll be a lot easier to create a test DVD with about 5 minutes of NTSC-video, and ask them to download and burn this (a five minute DVD shouldn't be too big), and test it in their player. If it works, you've saved yourself a lot of work, and the people receiving the DVDs will get the full video quality.

Steve Stanch · #7 11-20-2009, 07:38 AM

It really does depend on what you're trying to do.

If you just need to make a copy playable for another region's player, that's easy. There's lots of programs that will make a copy and let you change the region code - then the disc can play in any player regardless of country of origin. My favorite is one called Mac the Ripper - it's for a Mac of course!

I use to to back up my DVDs when I take them to the school- that way I never lose anything or scratch anything up.....it's of course legal to make a preservation copy for yourself.