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Old 09-19-2009, 12:31 PM
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Not really convincing, but i just want to have a discussion about this. http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20302680_20,00.html

Seriously, Wall-E #1?!? It's the most subliminal aud subversive film i ever seen! That's reminds of the end-70's/80's films when some characters are robots (Short Circuit, Tron, Star Wars) and i think this film have a allusion with piggy films and songs. Now, i realised that every childrens films is a real pain for the eyes since too longtime. And i don't get neither why The Lion King is ranked #4. This film is dated today and we know now it was a rip-off from a Anime made in the 1960's. This list is look made in 10 minutes, without efforts of their part.

I already made two years ago a top 50 list of the best comics in history and i was aware to don't put just random. Yeah, EW's Animated film list is terribly random. I wishing to see Fritz the Cat, Fantasia and Song of the South. (If only it was available from public)
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:32 PM
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How?!??!

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and we know now it was a rip-off from a Anime made in the 1960's.
15 years later this argument still never fails to annoy the hell out of me. We get it, The Lion King and Kimba, the White Loin are very similar. We. Get. It. But people use the similarity to slam to the entire movie. It just gets really, really old after a while.

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This list is look made in 10 minutes, without efforts of their part.
It yet another in the hundreds of examples of a mainstream magazine or site compiling a list of "greatest" or "favorites" and the hardcore internet community freaks out about things that should or shouldn't be there. That's something else that gets old.

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I wishing to see Fritz the Cat, Fantasia and Song of the South. (If only it was available from public)
Yes, because Entertainment Weekly totally caters to hardcore animation fans.
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15 years later this argument still never fails to annoy the hell out of me. We get it, The Lion King and Kimba, the White Loin are very similar. We. Get. It. But people use the similarity to slam to the entire movie. It just gets really, really old after a while.

It yet another in the hundreds of examples of a mainstream magazine or site compiling a list of "greatest" or "favorites" and the hardcore internet community freaks out about things that should or shouldn't be there. That's something else that gets old.

Yes, because Entertainment Weekly totally caters to hardcore animation fans.
I think maybe i put too much off of my chest. But i find this list by Toonzone and it's kinda annoying because we can't have a week before find a random compilations of best or worst stuffs. Like the most dirt wearing peoples, best and worst movies and all of this stuffs. This kind of compilations should be organised at least every 10 years or so. Not every two years like now.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Any 'Best Animated Films' list that doesn't have The Secret of NIMH on it, is a fake."

Anyone who calls Wall-E the best animated film ever, probably also thinks Citizen Kane is the greatest live-action film ever.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Any 'Best Animated Films' list that doesn't have The Secret of NIMH on it, is a fake."

Anyone who calls Wall-E the best animated film ever, probably also thinks Citizen Kane is the greatest live-action film ever.
What do you consider to be the best live-action film?

Anyway, I do wish there was a "50 Greatest Animated Films" book similar to the "50 Greatest Cartoons" book. Of course, people would still be disatified with it and I would proably be the only person here to get that book.
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What do you consider to be the best live-action film?
That's a tough question, but I certainly don't thnk Citizen Kane is the greatest. It's a good movie, and it's obvious Orson Welles was trying to do something different with the film, by having all those crazy camera angles, but I got tired of it after the first 5 minutes. And frankly, I think the movie is boring. "Casablanca" is easily a better movie than Citizen Kane
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Anyway, I do wish there was a "50 Greatest Animated Films" book similar to the "50 Greatest Cartoons" book. Of course, people would still be disatified with it and I would proably be the only person here to get that book.
I'd probably get it, as long as it didn't cater to just mainstream films like all the Pixar films, or Shrek, or the more popular Disney films. Throw in some underappreciated great films. Don't be afraid to limit choices to just American films, and Japanese Anime films. Pick a few from other countries. I wouldn't mind.
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I agree with Brandon' reasonnement. I can say the same thing about the Quebec's films. 10-15 years ago, it was rarely shown but thanks for the greedy subventions, we can make 20-30 films per year. In 2 months, i think i counted 9 new Quebec movies was released in theaters but we should be careful because i scare it's gonna be the same than in the 1970's in profit to American blockbusters movies. Quebec films was already existed in the 40's-50's but it was much made locally because the transactions between the other countries wasn't perfect like today. But still i admire Quebec films but i worry that it's gonna be too overatted with the same actors and directors because we live in a small world.

For favorite Animated films outside of the American, Pixar, Disney or Japanese, i will pick:

Asterix and Cleopatre (Great Eddie Lateste movie and well-adapted to the original comic)
The King and Mr. Bird (A real sentimental and poetic film with a modern storyline from a old tale)
Lucky Luke - Daisy Town (Due to the last transfers, this film is outstanding for this unique Art style. The last version made for TV's widescreen in 2006-2007 was look made like they was originally created with the correct contrasts.)
A film i loved as a kid but i don't watch anymore is a local animated Cindrella adaptation when the characters designs makes me funny and look like they having fun to make this. The Disney's version for me makes me sad.
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I love The Lion King, even if it does seem similar to Kimba (and Bambi, come to that), it's still a very moving film full stop, never mind animated film. Its a very good film.
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