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I have a funny little story.
Today I was visiting the local Disney Store when they played the new trailer for the upcoming Underdog mess, uhhh...movie.
2 clerks are watching it with me. "Awwww... I love it when they use talking animals." " Ooohhh, there's a bunch of them."
As it finished, I simply stated "They shouuld have made it more like the cartoon."
"There's a cartoon?"
"Yeah. You know, Underdog? The show from the 60's?"
"Oh, well I never had the chance to see it."
I realized that this upcoming movie is going to ruin the animated series' memory. People today will only know about this terrible movie made by Disney.
Any other stories about people you've run into involving their "association" with classic cartoons?
Studio Toledo
06-13-2007, 01:47 AM
I have a funny little story.
Today I was visiting the local Disney Store when they played the new trailer for the upcoming Underdog mess, uhhh...movie.
2 clerks are watching it with me. "Awwww... I love it when they use talking animals." " Ooohhh, there's a bunch of them."
As it finished, I simply stated "They shouuld have made it more like the cartoon."
"There's a cartoon?"
"Yeah. You know, Underdog? The show from the 60's?"
"Oh, well I never had the chance to see it."
I realized that this upcoming movie is going to ruin the animated series' memory. People today will only know about this terrible movie made by Disney.
Pretty much what I expect will happen out of this (especially with the younger set).
Any other stories about people you've run into involving their "association" with classic cartoons?[/QUOTE]
Heh, I probably have a lot I hear from online personally (often there's a lot that don't even know of George of the Jungle past the Disney film too).
absolutpaul
06-13-2007, 01:55 AM
My 11 year-old son is alway surprised when I tell him most of the "new" things he sees are remakes of stuff 40-70 years old. Then I pull out the original and show him, and he usually likes it a lot.
I think a movie of The Mighty Heroes would work. Kids remember them about as much as they remember Underdog - not at all. AND better than Mighty Mouse, which will probably be awful too. With good comedy actors and CG effects, It might be a lot of fun. Ropeman would look pretty cool actually...
I'd never heard of Underdog until people started moaning about how terrible the new version is going to be. Is the original really that much of a classic? If it was that great then I'm surprised I've never heard of it on a site like this before.
Fibber Fox
06-13-2007, 05:39 AM
I'd never heard of Underdog until people started moaning about how terrible the new version is going to be. Is the original really that much of a classic? If it was that great then I'm surprised I've never heard of it on a site like this before.
I watched it when it came out. I found it likeable.
I used to go to the fridge or otherwise leave the room when the other segments were on. Go Go Gophers?! Pfft.
FF
Gordan
06-13-2007, 07:10 AM
I realized that this upcoming movie is going to ruin the animated series' memory. People today will only know about this terrible movie made by Disney.
Any other stories about people you've run into involving their "association" with classic cartoons?
Yup! When I invited my co-worker and her children to my Fleischer Popeye screening at the National Gallery in Ottawa, she said her kids did not like Popeye, because they did not think Robin Williams was funny... SAD!!!!
Eugene the Jeep
06-13-2007, 08:42 AM
I'd never heard of Underdog until people started moaning about how terrible the new version is going to be. Is the original really that much of a classic? I vote no. It's badly animated and doesn't have enough jokes.
ohmahaaha
06-13-2007, 08:59 AM
I vote no. It's badly animated and doesn't have enough jokes.
It would always be my 2nd choice on Saturday mornings, and I would NEVER have watched it instead of watching Bugs Bunny ... BUT - it's still 10 times better than most of the CRAP they cart out there made today.
Marty26
06-13-2007, 09:16 AM
It would always be my 2nd choice on Saturday mornings, and I would NEVER have watched it instead of watching Bugs Bunny ... BUT - it's still 10 times better than most of the CRAP they cart out there made today.
I was actually watching Underdog a lot back when it was on Nickelodeon around 1992/1993. In fact, for one summer (Summer, 1993), that was my favorite Nick show.
If you take into consideration the time period it's from, it's actually a pretty entertaining cartoon series. Of course, looking at it with fresh eyes here in 2007, the plots seem ridiculously corny (The Forget-Me-Net???) and villains more amusing than menacing. Plus, the somewhat low-budget production values are pretty apparent in its crude artstyle and the way a lot of the villains were voiced by the same person (the vocal resemblence between Riff Raff and Batty Man is uncanny). Still, when you consider the fact that the cartoon is now over 40 years old, it's a pretty fun diversion.
I'd venture to guess a lot of people probably didn't know Inspector Gadget was a cartoon (and a very good one at that) before the 1999 Matthew Broderick disaster. Ditto to Mr. Magoo.
CyberFox
06-13-2007, 10:02 AM
I'd never heard of Underdog until people started moaning about how terrible the new version is going to be. Is the original really that much of a classic?
Yup, It really is
The only movie adaptation that payed any respect to the original source spiritually and respectfully is the underappreciated "The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle"
Mr. Semaj
06-13-2007, 11:21 AM
Someone I know didn't know that Horace Horsecollar and Clarabelle Cow once existed before their House of Mouse reincarnation.
Geezil
06-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Pretty much all the kids who've visited Casa Geezil with their parents (our closest relatives and friends) love to watch Popeye, and none of them have ever cringed or otherwise complained about black-and-whites. :D
Mrs. Geezil also enjoys the golden age Popeyes, but happens to have much fonder memories of the 1960-61 KFS made-for-TV series because that was all she saw on TV as a kid in Florida. :D
One forty-something neighborhood couple we know are fans of Underdog, seek out any showings on Boomerang (note: unlike the Geezils, they've got satellite TV), and have asked me on a couple of occasions to see whether any Underdog episodes are PD & so could be included in a P.U.P. Toons episode. :D (Alas, no.) :(
Lastly (for now), I've about given up trying to get any newbies interested in anime, since the stock reaction each and every time is "Oh, Pokemon!" :( (Not that that series is 100% devoid of any enjoyable moments, but there's so much more to the field with greater depth and resonance. Think Tezuka or Miyazaki. :D Oh, never mind.)
I watched an episode of Underdog on You Tube. It's not really my kind of thing (I never much liked 60s cartoons like that), but I can see why others would like it. Then I watched the trailer for the new film. It was hilarious! The dog said "so you're a CAT BURGLAR" and he's a dog - and dogs don't like cats! If the whole movie is as funny as that then I think Disney will have yet another lawsuit on their hands because people are actually going to die laughing. Seriously, this film looks awful. I thought Disney were going to try and stop making crap films all the time.
trondmm
06-13-2007, 06:05 PM
Someone I know didn't know that Horace Horsecollar and Clarabelle Cow once existed before their House of Mouse reincarnation.
In Norway these characters are featured every now and then in Mickey Mouse stories published in either the weekly Donald Duck magazine or the monthly Mickey Mouse magazine. So I'm pretty sure most people still remember these characters here. Although I think most people will be surprised to find out they used to be in cartoons, and particularly how old the characters are.
Geezil
06-13-2007, 09:21 PM
In Norway these characters are featured every now and then in Mickey Mouse stories published in either the weekly Donald Duck magazine or the monthly Mickey Mouse magazine. So I'm pretty sure most people still remember these characters here. Although I think most people will be surprised to find out they used to be in cartoons, and particularly how old the characters are.
And let it be noted here that Clarabelle and Horace show up quite often in Gemstone Publishing's excellent U.S. Disney comics too! :D
David Gerstein
06-13-2007, 10:46 PM
Thanks for the compliment on behalf of the Gemstone team! Though nine times out of ten, the Horace and Clarabelle starring stories we publish at Gemstone are the same ones Norway is also publishing.
BloodyChamp
06-13-2007, 11:09 PM
I think this just reflects how bad cartoons got by the 60s :shame:
Even though Woody Woodpecker is older and was even more neglected, everybody will recognize his face on his commercial if he gets one.
frootloops
06-13-2007, 11:09 PM
Where I'm from, nobody from my generation down knew that George of the Jungle or even Rocky and Bullwinkle were origilally cartoons. I only knew because my dad told me and I had a couple on tape.
Most people I know don't remember Underdog because It was only broadcast for about a year and a half when I was a kid, on a TV station called TCC. Strangely enough, though, they all remember The King and Odie.
If that movie is a success, that's it, I've had it with this generation. I saw the trailer, it was discusting. I wouldn't mind if they did the Rocky and Bullwinkle thing again, but they didn't. The only thing the movie retains from the original series is the cape, the name and the fact that he's a dog. Just like Simon Barsinister, Disney are only after Money and Power And Money and Power!!!
AcmeCoyote
06-13-2007, 11:11 PM
While it is true that most conversations with the average person regarding the classic cartoons is an exercise in frustration, I actualy had quite a nice moment at the gas station the other day.
I was wearing my Pluto baseball cap from my last trip to Disneyworld (yeah, that's right...Pluto!) and the clerk at the gas station said "Oh, Pluto! You don't see those old cartoons on tv anymore."
This led to us rattling off a list of cartoons that are no longer on the air. Just the words "Looney Tunes", "Woody Woodpecker" and "Donald Duck" had this woman and me laughing.
It was refreshing to see that the memories of these characters still invoke laughter just by mentioning thier names.
These characters are ingrained in our minds, but the sad part is that the next generation will have no idea of who they are. It is up to us to pass these films down to the young ones in our lives and keep the laughter alive after we are gone.
Daff Doc
06-14-2007, 01:31 AM
I have a funny little story.
Today I was visiting the local Disney Store when they played the new trailer for the upcoming Underdog mess, uhhh...movie.
2 clerks are watching it with me. "Awwww... I love it when they use talking animals." " Ooohhh, there's a bunch of them."
As it finished, I simply stated "They shouuld have made it more like the cartoon."
"There's a cartoon?"
"Yeah. You know, Underdog? The show from the 60's?"
"Oh, well I never had the chance to see it."
I realized that this upcoming movie is going to ruin the animated series' memory. People today will only know about this terrible movie made by Disney.
Any other stories about people you've run into involving their "association" with classic cartoons?
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