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babybuggybunny
05-02-2007, 03:25 PM
I have an idea for disney treasures disc(s)
what about the colorized disney cartoons?
because we all have been seen all the B&W versions of the these cartoons why can't we also see the colorized versions?
after all there's no other way to watch the colorized version of the disney shorts.
Geezil
05-02-2007, 03:27 PM
I'll second that ... back when the Disney Channel was still good to watch, I recall that it often showed the colorized Mickey shorts on "Good Morning Mickey." And that they were (on the whole) pleasingly done.
(Edit: But maybe a less expensive "mainstream"-sized package would be better for such a DVD release.)
Cartman
05-02-2007, 04:19 PM
I think it might be better to have those as bonus features instead. I doubt there would be much of a market for the colorized versions on their own.
BTW, Geezil
Could you possibly be mistaking "Good Morning Mickey" for "Mickey's Mouse Tracks?" I din't think the Disney Channel started colorizing their cartoons until the early 90's (given the fact that on the ending titles of the b&w cartoons, it says something like copyright 1991)
Geezil
05-02-2007, 04:21 PM
[...]BTW, Geezil
Could you possibly be mistaking "Good Morning Mickey" for "Mickey's Mouse Tracks?" I din't think the Disney Channel started colorizing their cartoons until the early 90's (given the fact that on the ending titles of the b&w cartoons, it says something like copyright 1991)
Indeed I could. :shame: ;) Thanks for that catch!
Even though colorization is part of the history, it's a small part... and a disappointing one, as it was born strictly out of financial consideration and was executed in the most horrible slipshod manner... attention paid to colorization is attention taken away from the originals.
Archival efforts and resources should always focus on formal restoration... anything else is just fiddling around with somebody else's hard work.
:bosko:
Geezil
05-02-2007, 05:05 PM
and now we'll await the rebuttal by dandu ...! :)
cpdavison
05-02-2007, 05:22 PM
A friend of mine worked at the Colorization Company (I think that was the name) back in the 'eighties. He said they did tests on colorizing B&W Mickey Mouse cartoons and they could never get the red color on Mickey's shorts just right. (Well, that's what he told me, any way...)
So, I guess my question is, where or by whom were these shorts colorized? Anyone know?
My two cents: The few brief clips I've seen on my daughter's Sing-A-Long tapes leave me very unimpressed. Hey, if they could issue "Spin & Marty" sets, why not these..?
Color Me Craig
nickramer
05-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Personally, I wish they had those computer colorized as a bonus angle button feature when they had the chance, so people could watch the cartoons in color or black and white by pressing back and forth with their remote. That would've been a cool feature.
By the way the computer-colorized version of the Mickey cartoons indeed existed in the 1980's since they were shown in the 1988 TV speical "Totally Minnie" (it was a different time).
Duck Dodgers
05-02-2007, 06:08 PM
I have an idea for disney treasures disc(s)
what about the colorized disney cartoons?
because we all have been seen all the B&W versions of the these cartoons why can't we also see the colorized versions?
after all there's no other way to watch the colorized version of the disney shorts.
Disney Treasures sets are aimed at collectors and the concept of colorized cartoons in them is a blasfemy (and it's a blasfemy, at least for me, even their release on any other dvd set. It's an alteration of History, that's my opinion about it).
Years ago in Europe was released an excellent 21-disc set with the complete Hal Roach's L&H library. It's a terrific collection and I was disappointed only by the fact that they wasted space to release the colorized versions of features and sound shorts with the black and white ones too. They could have added documentaries, commentaries, bonus shorts instead!
I heard something of the kind for the LTGCs too! Imagine wasting space and time for colorized cartoons!!
I guess that the only possibility of an official release of these on dvd is on some cheap dvd series, like the ones recently made by Disney.......
Leviathan
05-02-2007, 06:16 PM
Actually, I'd love to see Disney compile a release of the 10 Mickey cartoons that were redrawn in Korea. Mainly because they're probably the rarest of all colorized cartoons to find, and I'm curious to see how they stack up to the redrawn Looney Tunes, Betty Boop, and Popeye cartoons.
David Gerstein
05-02-2007, 10:07 PM
By the way the computer-colorized version of the Mickey cartoons indeed existed in the 1980's since they were shown in the 1988 TV speical "Totally Minnie" (it was a different time).Good memory! To the best of my knowledge, those were the first Disney computer colorizations to be completed. Others were finished shortly after and may have been exhibited overseas as early as 1989, but the domestic Disney Channel did not begin to show them until 1992.
American Film Technologies was the company that handled the work, BTW.
AcmeCoyote
05-02-2007, 10:55 PM
No, I would have to pass on that idea. It's just not of interest to me.
Let's worry about getting the remaining Donalds (etc.) released first. When the time comes when the Disney shorts have all been released in thier original form, then I won't care what they do after that.
dandu
05-15-2007, 07:33 PM
I agree with the idea, colorization is not at all bad, I actually prefer collecting colorized versions of films, since they just look cooler. Im not against black and white, its just that color to me is prettier. Computer colorization should not be scrutinied, it's just adding color to an old film, if you hate it, turn the color knob down on the tele! Now redrawing, I can see the problem with that, but I think it's really neat especially the ones made during the 1960's/1970s, like the Betty Boop's, the colors on most of those stand out so better than any computer colorization.
Daff Doc
05-15-2007, 08:13 PM
Computer colorization should not be scrutinied, it's just adding color to an old film, if you hate it, turn the color knob down on the tele!
Aha! I knew it, Dandu really is Ted Turner!!
OurGangAlfalfa
05-15-2007, 09:09 PM
I agree with the idea, colorization is not at all bad, I actually prefer collecting colorized versions of films, since they just look cooler..
Define "cooler".
Im not against black and white, its just that color to me is prettier. Computer colorization should not be scrutinied, it's just adding color to an old film, if you hate it, turn the color knob down on the tele! ..
Actually turning the color down on a colorized film would not be accurate to the originas, because the contrast between the blacks, whites and grays would be totally different.
[...]but I think it's really neat especially the ones made during the 1960's/1970s, like the Betty Boop's, the colors on most of those stand out so better than any computer colorization
To each their own... :eek:
Spike
05-16-2007, 06:00 AM
I know it's OT but the Laurel and Hardy Colorizations (for the most part) are just plain awful!!
Duck Dodgers
05-16-2007, 06:26 AM
I know it's OT but the Laurel and Hardy Colorizations (for the most part) are just plain awful!!
A recent DVD release of "March of the Wooden Soldiers" included a good color restoration. I've bought it only because it included as well the original black and white version, with original titles (the feature was originally titled "Babes in Toyland", changed to "March of the Wooden Soldiers" after Disney made his onw "Babes in Toyland" to avoid confusion).
After watching the entire feature in b/w and uncut I was destroyed by a little particular: at the end, over imposed on the ending card, you can read "Color restoration" or something like that. Very sad how they destroyed the otherwise perfection of this release...........
dandu
05-16-2007, 09:24 AM
I know it's OT but the Laurel and Hardy Colorizations (for the most part) are just plain awful!!
I enjoy those quite a bit, I like their choices when it comes to interior scenes, now exteriors like in "The Hoose Gow" has a little more to be desired.
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