View Full Version : Best Tasmanian Devil short?
UncleLina
03-22-2007, 03:21 AM
I'm going for Bedevilled Rabbit.:bugs2:
Marty26
03-22-2007, 07:22 AM
Same here. I love that ending.
Matt the Y
03-22-2007, 07:32 AM
My vote goes for "Ducking the Devil", ironic being the character's only appearance with Daffy.
The plot works well and the premise with Daffy using music to put the beast "at bay" long enough to get him to the zoo is very well-written. In fact, the premise works better with Daffy than any of the character's appearances with Bugs.
Personally, Taz's cartoons have never particularly wowed me. The character's first appearance in "Devil May Hare" was rather funny but the other three cartoons with Bugs weren't very great at all. Frankly, I don't know what J.L. saw in the character; he isn't that great.
oceansoul
03-22-2007, 08:44 AM
My vote goes for "Ducking the Devil", ironic being the character's only appearance with Daffy.
The plot works well and the premise with Daffy using music to put the beast "at bay" long enough to get him to the zoo is very well-written. In fact, the premise works better with Daffy than any of the character's appearances with Bugs.
Personally, Taz's cartoons have never particularly wowed me. The character's first appearance in "Devil May Hare" was rather funny but the other three cartoons with Bugs weren't very great at all. Frankly, I don't know what J.L. saw in the character; he isn't that great.
I concur with you. Devil may hare and Ducking the devil were OK, but the rest were just... meh. I think the decent show Taz-Mania made this character popular, not his looney tunes appearances.
Eugene the Jeep
03-22-2007, 09:08 AM
I've always liked Ducking the Devil, especially the scene where he orders, assembles, and learns to play trombone in a few seconds.
Mark J
03-22-2007, 11:51 AM
They are all terrible - this has always been my least favorite WB character and I like him less with time. Everything about the character is annoying and unwatchable. The fact that Bugs is trapped in many of these toons makes it even worse.
Marty26
03-22-2007, 12:23 PM
I've always liked Ducking the Devil, especially the scene where he orders, assembles, and learns to play trombone in a few seconds.
Even funnier was the way Taz demolished his bagpipes the second he started playing them. Looks like I'm not the only one who doesn't like the bagpipes. :tweety:
My problem with Ducking The Devil is that Taz just isn't as good a foil with Daffy as he is with Bugs. Bugs is supposed to be a winner, and Taz is supposed to be a loser. Makes perfect sense to pair them, right? Daffy, on the other hand, is supposed to be a loser (or at least by about 1953 he was). So pitting him against another loser just doesn't seem to make as much sense.
Matt the Y
03-22-2007, 12:46 PM
My problem with Ducking The Devil is that Taz just isn't as good a foil with Daffy as he is with Bugs. Bugs is supposed to be a winner, and Taz is supposed to be a loser. Makes perfect sense to pair them, right? Daffy, on the other hand, is supposed to be a loser (or at least by about 1953 he was). So pitting him against another loser just doesn't seem to make as much sense.
Well, I for one actually enjoy "Ducking the Devil" also for that very reason; Daffy actually comes out a winner. Even though he was mostly a loser from 1953 onward doesn't mean he was meant to be. He actually comes out on top in quite a few of his 1940's shorts and it bothers me that he was demoted to "loser" status for the most part after that. That said, seeing Daffy get the better of ol' Taz in the end and get rich to boot is a real treat for me. "I may be a craven little coward but I'm a GREEEEEEDY craven little coward!" :daffy:
Marty26
03-22-2007, 12:51 PM
Actually, I probably should've listed Dr. Devil And Mr. Hare as another cartoon with the dubious honor of having "One Of The Lamest Concepts Ever For A Cartoon." I don't think I once even cracked a smile when watching it (not even at the way Bugs "got it" at the end - his horrible final line of dialog killed it for me). And both the premise and ESPECIALLY the way it was setup were, to put it bluntly, stupid IMO.
Marty26
03-22-2007, 12:53 PM
Well, I for one actually enjoy "Ducking the Devil" also for that very reason; Daffy actually comes out a winner. Even though he was mostly a loser from 1953 onward doesn't mean he was meant to be. He actually comes out on top in quite a few of his 1940's shorts and it bothers me that he was demoted to "loser" status for the most part after that. That said, seeing Daffy get the better of ol' Taz in the end and get rich to boot is a real treat for me. "I may be a craven little coward but I'm a GREEEEEEDY craven little coward!" :daffy:
I like the cartoon too. Don't get me wrong. In fact, if it was produced in the 1940s (before, say, You Were Never Duckier - arguably the cartoon that more-or-less lit the fuse on Daffy's transformation), I probably wouldn't be complaining. Judged in a derogatory sense, it's a great cartoon. It's just that, by 1957, even Robert McKimson made Daffy into a greedy loser. So it was a little odd seeing him put back into the winner role in DTD.
To be fair, though, I guess it was also a little refreshing to see him win for a change. Being that he did so seldomly by then (barring may be Don't Axe Me, if that really counts as a "victory").
Mr. Semaj
03-22-2007, 01:22 PM
Ducking the Devil gets my vote. McKimson should be admired for doing something different with Daffy at this point, kinda resisting his growing loser status that was becoming set in stone by Chuck Jones and Friz Freleng. The ending is just too funny.
The Taz's appearances with Bugs are fairly average, even in Devil May Hare with McKimson's original animation team (though there was a Bugs facial there, made when he was on the phone that sticks out as a highlight). Bill of Hare also had a funny ending.
oceansoul
03-22-2007, 07:27 PM
Interestingly Taz's Looney Tunes carreer is a bit similar to Marvin's. Both were made into 5 cartoons, 4 with Bugs, 1 with Daffy, interestingly the Daffy cartoons were the most successful with both ones. They also became merchandise characters, despite the lack of greatness in their brief appearances (with the exception of the slightly overrated Duck Dodgers for Marvin which seems to be a fan-favourite).
AcmeCoyote
03-22-2007, 08:45 PM
I have to vote for Ducking the Devil. If nothing else, I always laugh when Daffy is singing to lure Taz back to the zoo. He starts off perky and fresh, then we cut to him starting to wheeze his way through "nothing could be finer", then we cut to him gasping his way through "when irish eyes are smiling". I just always find it funny.
speedy fast
03-24-2007, 12:22 AM
I like Ducking the Devil the best.
"Ducking the Devil", It's the only one that gets away from the Bugs/Taz formula.
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