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Thad
02-07-2007, 02:59 PM
Does anyone have this segment from "Saludos Amigos" with Goofy smoking intact? :goof:
drsd2kill
02-07-2007, 03:26 PM
I do, as well as the entire PECOS BILL segment altered heavily on the US DVD release of MELODY TIME.
Chow Hound
02-07-2007, 03:51 PM
I do, as well as the entire PECOS BILL segment altered heavily on the US DVD release of MELODY TIME.Did you get it from an intact non-US DVD release?
FleischerFan
02-07-2007, 07:59 PM
Yes, I have both (Gaucho & Pecos) from VHS copies I taped long, long ago before Disney decided to "clean up" those images.
drsd2kill
02-09-2007, 11:55 AM
PECOS BILL I have on the PAL UK REGION 2 DVD release. I have made an NTSC conversion of it too for friends and such, but I just watch the original PAL version.
drsd2kill
02-09-2007, 11:57 AM
SALUDOS AMIGOS I get from my Laserdisc box set that is uncut.
Chow Hound
02-09-2007, 01:12 PM
PECOS BILL I have on the PAL UK REGION 2 DVD release. I have made an NTSC conversion of it too for friends and such, but I just watch the original PAL version.Thanks! I just ordered the Region 2 version. I paid probably twice as much for it, but at least the extra money is going to a shipping company and not to Disney.
drsd2kill
02-10-2007, 12:52 AM
Twice as much? Amazon.co.uk has MELODY TIME at 70% off and it came to about $16 shipped from the UK
Chow Hound
02-12-2007, 01:07 PM
Twice as much? Amazon.co.uk has MELODY TIME at 70% off and it came to about $16 shipped from the UKWell I knew it came to 9.05 Pounds, but I had no idea what the exchange rate is, I was guessing at least 2:1 so figured it would be around $18-$19. I once passed on buying it (because of the edits) from DeepDiscount during one of their sales last year when I could have got it for about $10, so it's good to know it only comes to $16 for the Region 2 version.
AFilmLA
02-13-2007, 07:44 AM
Just as a side note: this sequence, called Prod. 2711, directed by Jack Kinney, is mainly animated by Woolie Reitherman, with eight scenes in the first half by Hugh Fraser, three by Harvey Toombs and a single John Sibley scene (Goof smiles and nods his head after hitting phonograph). Effects scenes by Andy Engman.

--Hans
The Spectre
02-13-2007, 01:13 PM
Hey! Y'all told Thad you didn't have any Goofy drafts besides "Goofy and Wilbur"! (When he was asking about identifying John Sibley scenes)
Matt the Y
02-13-2007, 03:25 PM
Just as a side note: this sequence, called Prod. 2711, directed by Jack Kinney, is mainly animated by Woolie Reitherman, with eight scenes in the first half by Hugh Fraser, three by Harvey Toombs and a single John Sibley scene (Goof smiles and nods his head after hitting phonograph). Effects scenes by Andy Engman.

--Hans

Man, the legendary John Sibley only got one lone scene to animate in that whole film??? What a rip-off! The cartoon itself is still great but a wasted opportunity for John Sibley's masterful talents as animator (he's my favorite Disney animator hands down).

BTW, what scenes did Harvey Toombs animate? I'm actually not familiar with his style yet. I can expertly identify Hugh Fraser and, as mentioned, John Sibley but Toombs' style is a new subject to me.