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Recently I was just thinking about the early 80's satursday morning cartoon, "Pink Panther and Sons". It used to air on NBC for one year. The most interesting thing about this show,was that the Pink Panther is not a kid but a parent and still pretty much the same characther, he just has kids. Pather was still silent, but the only drawback was that he wasn't feature as much in the show as his sons.
I know this show isn't the usual Trading Post type of program but, I just wanted to hear your thoughts about it.
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Pietro
10-19-2004, 11:16 PM
I never saw it, but it certainly sounds like something I would prefer not to see - a 1980s Saturday morning spin-off of a theatrical cartoon character.
-Pietro:daffy:
I never saw it, but it certainly sounds like something I would prefer not to see - a 1980s Saturday morning spin-off of a theatrical cartoon character.
-Pietro:daffy:
But unlike most Saturday morning spin-offs, the Panther is a baby or kid. He is just the a father, of course you could say that the kids make up for the most of the cuteness.
Cartman
10-19-2004, 11:54 PM
Wasn't there also a Popeye and son show from the 80's as well?
Yes, there was, but it was very bad. It was called "Popeye and Son" and it was produced by the same company that did "Pink Panter and Sons", Hanna-Barbera. Basicaly Popeye has a son named junior who doesn't like spinach, that and Popeye wear a Hawaiian shirt. :eek:
David Gerstein
10-20-2004, 12:07 AM
Back when I was a brat— I mean, charming little kid, I watched THE PINK PANTHER AND SONS in its original release. Well, I tried to. The show was mostly about the sons, Pinky and Panky (!), who spent their time fighting against a street gang called Howl's Angels. The original Pink Panther appeared in short interstitial segments, as I recall, doing his traditional pantomime schtick.
As I recall, the animation and character design was not actually done by DePatie-Freleng, which is why Pinky and Panky look like traditional 1980s Saturday morning characters.
POPEYE AND SON... argh! Popeye and Bluto were both married with 1980s hipster sons. What can you say?
Writers tried to keep it canonical by jamming the Sea Hag into it, as I recall, but the producers had given them a lousy central idea to work with— and the music and drawing style were unpleasant, so it couldn't be saved.
Like every 1980s cartoon, I'm sure this one has mobs of self-proclaimed "fans"... really just nostalgia buffs who couldn't stand to sit through more than one episode if they had to!
Yosemite682
10-20-2004, 12:14 AM
Does this include Slvester's son? Or how about Bugs Bunny's nephew?
Yosemite682
10-20-2004, 12:25 AM
Goofy has a son, Donald has Huey Duey and Luey,
RetroMan
10-20-2004, 12:46 AM
Basicaly Popeye has a son named junior who doesn't like spinach, that and Popeye wear a Hawaiian shirt. :eek:
WHAT!?!? Popeye wearing a hawaiian shirt??? What kind of monster would perpetrate such villianous act of desecration?!?! Unbelievable.
Mr. Jinks
10-20-2004, 01:50 AM
Goofy has a son, Donald has Huey Duey and Luey,
Explain that to me...how the heck did accident-prone Goofy get a son.
Never mind, I think I answered my question...LOL!!!
Oh no! Popeye and Son! I used to watch this as a kid. Although it was never a favourite and there was no way to confuse it with the classic cartoons (luckily I used to be able to enjoy those on T.V - I even wondered sometimes why the T.V show didn't use Popeye's nephews) I'd still sit there and watch it. Actually my mind has now melded it together with "The All New Popeye Show" (ironic title, cos when my generation watched it it clearly wasn't new) so I can't tell what went with what. But Olive Oil and "Alice the Goon" in the army??
Although Goofy may have a kid in the 50s and Donald's always had his nephews, Disney were of course able to cringe this up with tween versions. Goof Troop has its fans, but I simply found it annoying. The worst thing I've seen "Max" in though was in "Mickey's once upon a Christmas" - "But I believe in Santa Claus, Daddy, let's go cheer up some poor people" Bleurgh!
Larry T
10-20-2004, 09:51 AM
Goofy has a son, Donald has Huey Duey and Luey,
Aren't Huey, Dewey, and Louie Donald's nephews, not his kids? I think Mickey Mouse had nephews too, named "Morty" and "Ferdie".
As far as Disney characters having offspring, do all those crappy sequels count? (like Simba and Scar's cubs, Mowgli's kids, etc) :o
Merrytoon
10-20-2004, 12:37 PM
Explain that to me...how the heck did accident-prone Goofy get a son.
Never mind, I think I answered my question...LOL!!!
There was quite a discussion about this on the Toonzone Disney Animation board a while ago. I still find it fun (and disturbing) to ponder now and then.
Yosemite682
10-20-2004, 01:58 PM
Aren't Huey, Dewey, and Louie Donald's nephews, not his kids? I think Mickey Mouse had nephews too, named "Morty" and "Ferdie".
As far as Disney characters having offspring, do all those crappy sequels count? (like Simba and Scar's cubs, Mowgli's kids, etc) :o
Yea but this started with Pink Panther and His Nephews. So I thought Huey, Duey, and Luey qualified.
Yosemite682
10-20-2004, 02:01 PM
There was quite a discussion about this on the Toonzone Disney Animation board a while ago. I still find it fun (and disturbing) to ponder now and then.Back before Max there was a redheaded kid, that Goofy had.(1960's) Goofy took him camping and in a bedtime prayer(Yes this was made by Disney) He said, "Bless Daddy and bless Mommy...." so obviously the kid knew his mother, and I do not think he was intended to be illegitamate.
Howard Fein
10-20-2004, 02:42 PM
Back when I was a brat— I mean, charming little kid, I watched THE PINK PANTHER AND SONS in its original release. Well, I tried to. The show was mostly about the sons, Pinky and Panky (!), who spent their time fighting against a street gang called Howl's Angels. The original Pink Panther appeared in short interstitial segments, as I recall, doing his traditional pantomime schtick.
As I recall, the animation and character design was not actually done by DePatie-Freleng, which is why Pinky and Panky look like traditional 1980s Saturday morning characters.
PINK PANTHER:thinkpink & SONS was a 'co-production' between DFE & H-B, which is strange considering DFE was absorbed by Marvel in 1980 and this was 1984. Friz Freleng, who'd worked on the WB theatrical anthologies LOONEY LOONEY :bugs2: MOVIE and 1001 RABBIT TALES:bugs2: :ysam: during the intervening years, was credited as co-executive producer along with Hanna and Barbera. While 'pure H-B' SFX were used, the animation style more closely adhered to DFE. Furthermore, the background music score was provided by Marvel mainstay Rob Walsh rather than Hoyt Curtin.
Pinky was voiced by someone named in the credits as 'Billy Bowles', who sounds an awful lot to me like Billy West.:confused: Thinking back 20 years, Pinky did sound a lot like Doug and Fry.
At the time, I envied Pinky and Panky for having a father who never talked.;)
POPEYE AND SON... argh! Popeye and Bluto were both married with 1980s hipster sons. What can you say?
Writers tried to keep it canonical by jamming the Sea Hag into it, as I recall, but the producers had given them a lousy central idea to work with— and the music and drawing style were unpleasant, so it couldn't be saved.
Like every 1980s cartoon, I'm sure this one has mobs of self-proclaimed "fans"... really just nostalgia buffs who couldn't stand to sit through more than one episode if they had to!
This was much less successful than an earlier H-B revival of the :sailor: franchise. Very few familiar H-B SFX were heard, the animation style seemed almost anime at times, and Jack Mercer had passed on. Maurice LaMarche made a valiant attempt at taking over a most difficult role, occasionally throwing in some ad-libs, but no one could replace Mercer. Like PANTHER & SONS, the emphasis was on the kids- most of whom had little or no personality. Some kudos are in order for a return to Segar's Sweetwater roots and some guest appearances by the Sea Hag and Jeep.
No one in this thread has mentioned one of H-B's last Saturday AM (i.e. pre-CN) series, :tomcat: & :jerry: KIDS. The supporting segment had :droopy: as father to an equally lethargic son, Dripple. Don Messick and Charlie Adler voiced Droopy and Dripple respectively. The :droopy: segments were far superior to the title segments, with many Averyesque gags, frequent appearances of :wolfie: , and even a visit from :red: !
Thankfully, Bakshi's cult-classic revival of :mighty: was child-free, unless you count series regular Scrappy, the orphaned mouse. Other TV revivals starring :huey: ,:magoo:, :woody: ,:donald:, :sylvester and:felix: , whatever their quality and faithfulness to their properties, kept their protagonists childless.
John Pannozzi
10-20-2004, 09:54 PM
Gogo Dodo from Tiny Toons is the son of the Dodo from "Porky in WackyLand", says Paul Dini.
Geezil
10-20-2004, 11:09 PM
WHAT!?!? Popeye wearing a hawaiian shirt??? What kind of monster would perpetrate such villianous act of desecration?!?! Unbelievable.The (Rightly) Untold Tale of "Popeye's" Hawaiian Shirt
It began in 1957.
Shortly after Popeye announced to the world that he was retiring from "motion pitchkers" and settling down in Connecticut once and for all, off he drove in that famous open-top jalopy en route to Bridgeport.
But he never made it.
It was a fine, sunny, solitary day like any other in the Famous States of America, and the Martians had decided to make one more try at capturing "that one-eyed weed eater" to unlock the secret of spinach. And, the third time was the charm (though hardly so for Popeye). This time, the Mars-built tractor beam machinery worked to perfection on both car and sailor man, as did the warp drive that then propelled the Red Planeteers' ship into a pocket dimension known only to them.
What happened from then on to the Popeye we knew is a speculative matter. Although various other creatures resembling him have been spotted back on Earth over the years in many different settings, their appearance and behavior has always been said to be somehow ... lacking.
Meanwhile ...
Popeye's four nephews, Pip-eye, Pup-eye, Poop-eye and Peep-eye, after finding themselves suddenly without the closest thing to a role model they'd ever known, began to lose their own drive and purpose by degrees.
And while they eventually came to deal with that inadequacy in amazingly different ways, a truly sorry story was that of Poop-eye.
Just a few months after the Martians captured his uncle for what appeared to be the final time, Poop-eye found himself obliged to enter an early version of the Witness Protection Program ... having resorted to a murderous misuse of spinach when Bluto took laughing exception to his name once too often.
There, safely tucked away and reinvented (plastic surgery was entirely out of the question, but theatrical makeup and costuming did the trick), Poop-eye eventually landed a plum of a job with the Tacky Tourist Clothing Company, manufacturers and distributors of custom baseball caps, clip-on sunglasses, and most profitable of all ... Hawaiian shirts.
...
No. My conscience is starting to scream, and so I cannot and will not torture anyone at GAC with the rest of this misbegotten story. Ever.
(Now, if someone else feels like picking it up from here in Fanfic Land, feel free!) ;)
George W. as the "Now I'll be able to sleep peacefully tonight" Geezil
angelidollinda
10-21-2004, 01:24 AM
Gogo Dodo from Tiny Toons is the son of the Dodo from "Porky in WackyLand", says Paul Dini.
Strangely, you don't see his "father" in the show.... probably because it would contradict the "last dodo" statement ^^;
Cartman
10-21-2004, 03:23 AM
He said, "Bless Daddy and bless Mommy...." so obviously the kid knew his mother, and I do not think he was intended to be illegitamate.
Goofy did have a wife who was seen (except for her face) in several cartoons of the early 50's.
angelidollinda
10-21-2004, 10:47 AM
Goofy did have a wife who was seen (except for her face) in several cartoons of the early 50's.
They had a topic on this in the disney forum of Toonzone (mostly based on why she wasn't in "Goof Troop" or nethier of the movies)
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