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speedy fast
10-15-2006, 02:03 PM
The upcomming Sesame Street: Old School Vol. 1 set is going to feaure the first five season premier episodes. A member of www.muppetcentral.com (http://www.muppetcentral.com) mentioned that he got a copy of the set early and plans on writing a review soon.

David Gerstein
10-15-2006, 02:37 PM
Could we please have a direct link to the Muppet Central posting that mentions this, Speedy Fast? You've only given us a link to the home page, and I've been unsuccessful at finding any more information from there.

speedy fast
10-15-2006, 08:15 PM
Could we please have a direct link to the Muppet Central posting that mentions this, Speedy Fast? You've only given us a link to the home page, and I've been unsuccessful at finding any more information from there.

Okay, I'll give it my best shot.

http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=26688&page=22

Keep reading untill you get to the part that confirms this. And feel free to go to the beginning and read the entire thread, too.

Snowpeck II
10-16-2006, 01:25 AM
I'm the one that got that advance copy. It's a great set and I recommend buying it (and recommend reading my review ;) )


Greg

JPox
10-16-2006, 10:24 AM
How does one find your review?

Leviathan
10-16-2006, 11:26 AM
I'm the one that got that advance copy. It's a great set and I recommend buying it (and recommend reading my review ;) )


Greg

I can only hope that the positive aspects of the set outweigh the negative ones.

Vdubdavid
10-16-2006, 04:03 PM
What are the negative aspects?

Leviathan
10-16-2006, 04:30 PM
What are the negative aspects?

That's just cautious skepticism coming from me.

Chow Hound
10-16-2006, 05:12 PM
That's just cautious skepticism coming from me.Yeah, lately it seems there's always some downside to a DVD set: DVNR, edited audio, edited video, syndication copies, double-sided DVDs that are usually problematic, the list goes on and on. :mad:

nickramer
10-16-2006, 05:16 PM
Folk, I am 100% sure that a certen frog will be on the set, for those who are worry. They had clips of this DVD on their website, and the frog is on one of them.;)

wackyoverkhaki
10-16-2006, 05:24 PM
Oh my are you serious? I was hoping so much that Sesame Street would be released on DVD by the season. The ones from my childhood (late 80's early 90's) I'm not sure if those were modern ones I was seeing or reruns from the 70's. Does anyone remember what season the sketches "Put Down The Ducky" "Rubber Duckie You're The One", and that sketch with Grover climbing up the stairs was from? And remember that claymation singing orange and that walking cup? Trippy man.

nickramer
10-16-2006, 05:37 PM
Oh my are you serious? I was hoping so much that Sesame Street would be released on DVD by the season. The ones from my childhood (late 80's early 90's) I'm not sure if those were modern ones I was seeing or reruns from the 70's. Does anyone remember what season the sketches "Put Down The Ducky" "Rubber Duckie You're The One", and that sketch with Grover climbing up the stairs was from? And remember that claymation singing orange and that walking cup? Trippy man.
The walking cup you are reffering is Teeny Little Superguy who's is a cartoon man on a cup. Created by Paul Fierlinger, I heard this was also on Nickoldeon's first show, (which was a knock-off of Sesame Street) Pinwheel.
However you might have to wait for the third set sice the character didn't make his debut till 1982.

speedy fast
10-16-2006, 06:39 PM
Oh my are you serious? I was hoping so much that Sesame Street would be released on DVD by the season. The ones from my childhood (late 80's early 90's) I'm not sure if those were modern ones I was seeing or reruns from the 70's. Does anyone remember what season the sketches "Put Down The Ducky" "Rubber Duckie You're The One", and that sketch with Grover climbing up the stairs was from? And remember that claymation singing orange and that walking cup? Trippy man.

Rubber Duckie has been confirmed to be on the set. Put Down the Duckie is from 1986 and won't be included. I don't know which "Grover climbing the stairs" skit you are talking about. There are two that I know of, both Monsterpiece Theater sketches, and neither are from the first five years. One of them is Upstairs, Downstairs, frm either the late 1970s or early 1980s. The other one is The 39 Stairs, from the 1980s. The 39 Stairs and Put Down the Duckie are both currently available on video and DVD (if you can find it). The DVD is titled Put Down the Duckie (it originally aired on television as The Sesame Street Special).

I would like to try to help you figure out which "Grover climbing the stairs" skit it is. Upstairs, Downstairs features Grover running up and down the stairs. The 39 Stairs is mostly in black and white, has shots of Grover walking up the stairs, his shadow climbing, and close ups of his feet, ending with him getting dissapointed that the stairway only leads to a plain brick wall (there's not even a door), and Grover decides to slide down the stairs.

speedy fast
10-16-2006, 06:39 PM
How does one find your review?

It's not written yet (either that, or it hasn't been included at Muppet Central yet).

wackyoverkhaki
10-16-2006, 06:45 PM
Rubber Duckie has been confirmed to be on the set. Put Down the Duckie is from 1986 and won't be included. I don't know which "Grover climbing the stairs" skit you are talking about. There are two that I know of, both Monsterpiece Theater sketches, and neither are from the first five years. One of them is Upstairs, Downstairs, frm either the late 1970s or early 1980s. The other one is The 39 Stairs, from the 1980s. The 39 Stairs and Put Down the Duckie are both currently available on video and DVD (if you can find it). The DVD is titled Put Down the Duckie (it originally aired on television as The Sesame Street Special).

I would like to try to help you figure out which "Grover climbing the stairs" skit it is. Upstairs, Downstairs features Grover running up and down the stairs. The 39 Stairs is mostly in black and white, has shots of Grover walking up the stairs, his shadow climbing, and close ups of his feet, ending with him getting dissapointed that the stairway only leads to a plain brick wall (there's not even a door), and Grover decides to slide down the stairs.

I think it was 39 Stairs. Thanks. Wasn't that supposed to be a Poe parody?

JPox
10-16-2006, 11:09 PM
If I see this tomorrow, I may pick it up.
I'm excited to relive the nostalga of the classic series!

The Silver Fox
10-17-2006, 03:16 AM
does anyone know if alot of the 70's Animation will be on
this DVD set, that Seasame street aired will be there,
there a few that i like to find.
Also does anyone know what season had Smokey Robinson Singing "U really got a hold on me" (using the original Lyics from the 60's song You really got a hold on me) but he is singing this to a Muppet letter U.
Also anyone know when the Muppet sketch that had
a, well best way to discribe is a Mupet version of a 70's Elton John, one song that was catchy called "telephone Rock" that was done in a 60's style will be on this set, I know that this was done in the early 70's (Growing up seeing the show oN KPBS, Channel 15), but couldnt' remember what season.

speedy fast
10-17-2006, 10:09 AM
does anyone know if alot of the 70's Animation will be on
this DVD set, that Seasame street aired will be there,
there a few that i like to find.
Also does anyone know what season had Smokey Robinson Singing "U really got a hold on me" (using the original Lyics from the 60's song You really got a hold on me) but he is singing this to a Muppet letter U.
Also anyone know when the Muppet sketch that had
a, well best way to discribe is a Mupet version of a 70's Elton John, one song that was catchy called "telephone Rock" that was done in a 60's style will be on this set, I know that this was done in the early 70's (Growing up seeing the show oN KPBS, Channel 15), but couldnt' remember what season.

I think U Really Got a Hold of Me is from the 1980s, but I'm not sure. The group that performed Telephone Rock is known as Little Jerry and the Monotones, who also performed such songs as Mad (I really hope this one is included), Sad, and With Every Beat of My Heart. I don't know what year Telephone Rock was made, but it looks like it's from the late 1970s. This song is already available on the Rock & Roll DVD.

There will be animated skits on the set. I believe that a press release mentioned that it has Wanda the Witch, from the first episode, and also confirmed that it contains bonus segments such as The Alligator King, The King of 8, and The Ladybug Picnic. I've been looking at the Muppet Wiki pages for these episodes, and most of the people who contributed to those pages don't know what Noggin edited. It is known what Noggin edited from the first episode, and it was mentioend that the uncut version of the fifth season premier is available at The Museum of Television and Radio, but hopefully when the set is available the Muppet Wiki pages will be updated. And there are a lot of cartoons in the episodes. I don't know if they are all uncut or not, but I'm sure that most of the cartoons will be included.

speedy fast
10-17-2006, 10:10 AM
If I see this tomorrow, I may pick it up.
I'm excited to relive the nostalga of the classic series!
Actually, it will be released on October 24, next tuesday.

JPox
10-17-2006, 07:42 PM
Actually, it will be released on October 24, next tuesday.
That why I didn't see it anywheres....
Thanks for the heads up!

MF TOON
10-17-2006, 08:15 PM
I think it was 39 Stairs. Thanks. Wasn't that supposed to be a Poe parody?

Hitchcock actually.

http://www.robcol.k12.tr/clubs/film/39%20steps.jpg

speedy fast
10-17-2006, 09:44 PM
The 39 Stairs is a parody of Alfred Hitch***** The 39 Steps. At the beginning of the sketch, Cookie Monster says that it is "made by a guy named Alfred".

speedy fast
10-19-2006, 08:00 PM
Well, it has been reported that some songs have been cut. The song Consider Yourself, from the first episode, is cut, as is another song from the first episode, some Bach song sung by the Swinging Sisters. 123 Sesame Street, performed by Stevie Wonder and included in the fifth season premier, is also cut.

Here is a link to the Muppet Central thread that reported this:

http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=29553

Studio Toledo
10-20-2006, 10:37 AM
Well, it has been reported that some songs have been cut. The song Consider Yourself, from the first episode, is cut, as is another song from the first episode, some Bach song sung by the Swinging Sisters. 123 Sesame Street, performed by Stevie Wonder and included in the fifth season premier, is also cut.

Here is a link to the Muppet Central thread that reported this:

http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showthread.php?t=29553
Hopefully this won't cause quite a stink by those "purists" out there. You know how long it takes to explain the rights and clearances that goes into these things.

speedy fast
10-21-2006, 12:02 AM
We should also be thankful that full episodes from the early seasons, even if a few skits are edited, are finally being released on DVD. Most episodes are only rerun during the seasons that they are produced for, and occassionally episodes will continue to be rerun a few seasons later (episodes from the last three seasons are regularly shown on PBS alongside the new episodes). For a long time many episodes haven't been shown to the public, not on video or in reruns. Some complete episodes (including two episodes on the Old School set, the first and fifth season premiers, which ironically are also the only episodes that we currently know are cut) are available for viewing at the Museum of Television and Radio. Noggin only showed a limited number of episodes from 1999 to around 2003. I don't know if PBS Sprout shows any classic episodes from the early years or not.

Also, we don't know what is edited from very many of the episodes that Noggin showed. Although all of the episodes on the set were shown o Noggin, it's possible that some songs or skits that Noggin edited could be cut, and we therefore wouldn't know (unless we knew the average time for an episode and timed each episode). This is different from The Muppet Show, where we know what is edited on the DVDs but could still find ways to watch the edited songs. The Muppet Show episodes have been rerun on television more than Sesame Street episodes, and I don't think there is a consistent edited master used for syndication, so most stations that rerun The Muppet Show normally get uncut episodes and edit them however they want (similar to how most stations that broadcast Looney Tunes get unedited copies and edit however they want). People could do tape trades to get the missing skits from the first season of the muppet show in a variety of ways. The Vincent Price episode was uncut when released by Time-Life but not Disney. Two songs that were cut from the first season DVD, All of Me and You've Got a Friend, were included in the long out-of-print video Gonzo presents Muppet Weird Stuff. And people could do some tape trading (I know that at least one member of Muppet Central has uncut copies of every episode, complete with the original first season openings, the u.k. spots, and the original ending logo).

However, while some Sesame Street sketches could be cut without us even knowing, many of the skits were repeated in many different episodes. Maybe when more sets get made Sesame Workshop could secure the video rights to some of the songs that got cut. Most segments were repeated in multiple episodes, so unlike The Muppet Show, we could get DVD releases of the cut skits (whatevers missing on The Muppet Show DVD set could also be released someday, maybe if the first season is rereleased or if Disney decides to release single-disc releases and gets the rights to some extra songs).

And if you want the cut skits so badly, there are some solutions to get or see them. You could do some tape trading. I know that quite a few members of Muppet Central have many of the episodes that were shown on Noggin. Noggin didn't edit the songs that we know will be cut. I know that some embers of Muppet central also have uncut copies of the first episode. However, I recommend that you know that some members of Muppet Central have these copies in advance and/ or know that they'd be willing to trade (some users have their own tape trading websites, many of which are linked in their posts). This is also considering you are willing to do a tape trade. If you don't feel like having two copies of the same episode (even if they are edited differently), then maybe you could ask somebody to just copy the missig songs and compile them onto a video or DVD.

Other solutions: as I mentioend earlier, if you live near one of The Museums of Television and Radio (there is one in New York and one in Los Angelas), you can view uncut versions of the first and fifth season premiers. I also know that the first episode is available on You Tube, cut into a few parts. I don't know if it's the uncut version or the Noggin version, but either way it should include what's cut on the DVD set. Of course, I would hold off on watching stuff on You Tube that I know is included on the DVD set (I want the set to sell well enough for more to be made).

Reharding the cuts that are made, I don't think they are that big of a deal. One is a film segment which seems a bit boring (I expect that song to have been part of the sketches soudntrack, and I don't know if the whole skit was cut or if the music was replaced). Although Consider Yourself is cut, the beginning of that sketch, with Gordon introducing the Anything Muppets, is still included. And I would say not to instantly assume that because this song was cut that it will be cut from the Edgar Bergen episode of The Muppet Show in the season two set (Sesame Workshop is a smaller company than Disney, after all). I am surprised that 123 Sesame Street had to be cut, as it was written for the show, and was recently included on the Songs from the Street album. Of course, I keep wondering if music rights for audio releases are the same as music rights for visual releases, and I have read that contracts for public television shows are different from contracts for shows produced for commercial television.

The up side is that apparantly Kermit the Frog will be included. Kermit's scenes from Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas had to be cut from the last DVD release. Then again, I also know that when The Jim Henson Company sold the rights to The Mupepts to Disney that Sesame Workshop made some sort of deal with Disney to continue releasing and broadcasting whatever Kermit material is owned by Sesame Workshop. I wish I knew all of the terms of the deal. I'd rather this set include Kermit than the licensed songs that were cut.

speedy fast
10-21-2006, 12:48 AM
I would also like to point out some things that I've pointed out at Muppet Central. Looking at the episode pages at Muppet Wiki, I've noticed that there are at least five sketches that are repeated (Wanda the Witch, W is for Worm, Let's Sing a Song of Two, Jazz #2, and Daddy Dear). Four of those five are featured in the first episode (Wanda the Witch and W is for Worm is shown twice in the first episode, whiel Let's Sing a Song for Two is not only in two of the episodes, but the other one with it features this sketch twice).

And by my count, unless some of these get cut, there are at least 19 sketches included that have already been released on video and/ or DVD (and two additional maybes):
1. Wanda the Witch (included in first season premer; previously released in The Alphabet Game)
2. Doll House (included in third or fourth season premier; previously released in Learning About Numbers)
3. Kermit and a girl sing the alphabet (included in fifth season premier; previously included in The Best of Kermit on Sesame Street)
4. Daddy Dear (included in fourth and fifth season premiers; previously included as a bonus skit in the DVD release of All-Star Alphabet)
5. Dee, Dee, Dee )included in season three or four premier; previously included in The Alphabet Game and Do the Alphabet)
6. Around, Over, Under, and Through (unknown how it's included in the set; previously included in Play-Along Games and Songs and A Celebration of Me, Grover!)
7. The Alligator King (included as a bonus skit; previously included in Elmo's Sing-Along Guessing Game, Sesame Street's 25th Birthday: A Musical Celebration, and The Great Numbers Game)
8. The King of 8 (included as a bonus skit; previously included in Learning About Numbers and The Great Numbers Game)
9. Beat the Time with Cookie Monster (included in season five premier; previously included in Play-Along Games and Songs)
10. Sesame Street News: Rupunzel (not sure how it's included; previously included in Big Bird's Story Time)
11. counting to 20 with a four-armed man (included in one of the episodes; previously included in Learning About Numbers)
12. Ladybug Picnic (included as a bonus skit; previously included in Sing Yourself Silly)
13. C is for Cookie (included as a bonus skit; previously included in Learning About Letters, Monster Hits, and Sesame Street's 25th Birthday: A Musical Celebration)
14. Ernie doesn't think he's special (included in season 3 premier; previously included in I'm Glad I'm Me)
15. Doin' the Pigeon (included in season 5 premier; previously released in Sing Along, Dance Along, Sesame Street's 25th Birthday: A Musical Celebration, and What's the Name of That Song?)
16. How Do You Do? (included in fifth season premier; previously released in A Celebration of Me, Grover!)
17. Clap, Clap, Clap (included in season five premier; previously included in video and DVD release of The Street We Live On)
18. Fat Cat (included in season four premier; previously released in Getting Ready to Read and Bert and Ernie's Word Play)
19. Everybody Sleeps (included in one of the episodes; previously included in Bedtime Stories and Songs)

The two maybes are Rubber Duckie and Bein' Green. There are two early versiosn oif Rubber Duckie, one that originated in one of the test pilots (and hasn't previously been available on video), and a remake from season one or two that has been included in a lot of videos (including Sing Along, Sesame Street's 25th Birthday: A Musical Celebration, and Elmo in Grouchland Sing-and-Play). There are also three early versions of Bein' Green: the original version (released in Sesame Street's 25th Birtdhay: A Musical Celebration), a remake with Kermit (released in I'm Glad I'm Me and The Best of Kermit on Sesame Street), and a duet between Kermit and Lena Horne (previously unavailable on video or DVD). I don't think it's the Lena Horne version, though; I found out this information in a press release that mentioend having "Kermit singing Bein' Green". If Lena Horne was included then I think the press release would have said that it will have "Kermit and Lena Horne singing Bein' Green".

speedy fast
10-21-2006, 12:54 AM
And for those wondering what characters are included, then assuming that none of these characters get cut out completely, the set features appearances by Big Bird, Ernie, Bert, Oscar, Cookie Monster, Grover, Herry, The Count, Kermit, Roosevelt Franklin, Roosevelt Franklin's mother, Fat Blue, Mr. Snuffleupagus, Sam the Robot, Farley, Prairie Dawn, Guy Smiley, Herbert Birdsfoot, Sherlock Hemlock, Simon Soundman, Granny Fanny Nesslerode, Frazzle, Bip Bipodotta, Gordon, Susan, Bob, Mr. Hooper, Maria, Luis, David, Willy, Tom, Moly the Mail Lady, and Rafael.

That leaves quite a few characters from the first five seasosn who I don't know if they are included. Characters like Little Jerry and the Monotones, Betty Lou, Little Bird, Lefty the salesman, Proffessor Hastings, Harvey Kneeslapper, Chris and the Alphabeats, Gladys the Cow, Biff, Sully, Don Music, and Mr. Macintosh.

Feel free to ask me who any of thsoe characters are if you do not know. I would prefer that you ask here instead of private messaging me.

Bugs Bunny
10-21-2006, 05:45 PM
Lefty the Salesman, Harvey Kneeslapper, and Little Bird (Jim Henson) are included in the bonus features. I am really excited for this release as well as the L.T.G.C #4. I saw my coppy of the set at Future Shop except I couldn't buy it since it came before the release date.

The Muppet Central review of "Sesame Street Old School Vol.1 1969-1974 (http://www.muppetcentral.com/articles/reviews/dvd/sesame_old_school_1.shtml)" is ready.

MarkTheShark
10-21-2006, 09:17 PM
I managed to get this set a couple days early and so far, I have scanned through it and I have watched and made notes on the first two discs.

The first disc includes an original sales pitch reel, which looks like it originates from 16mm and possibly may even be a kinescope. It is introduced by Joan Ganz Cooney. After a short title card reading simply "Joan Ganz Cooney," it then cuts to Cooney's introduction in mid-sentence. I wonder how much is missing. It runs 0:25:51. The main body of the reel is hosted by Kermit and Rowlf, and they talk about what has gone into putting the show together, research, finances, etc. The early "pre-Grover" Grover also makes an appearance at a meeting with a bunch of other Muppets. Some clips from the show are presented, mostly animated segments, some of which were in some of the "Unpaved" episodes.

The first show (#1) is almost but not quite complete. This and all the shows have a new intro and outro with a little white animated guy, who seems to be familiar from seeing him in some animated segments on the show all those years ago. They call him "Bob." He starts to give some background and trivia on each episode, but ends up talking about himself and an off-camera voice tells him to get on with it and "throw the switch." There is a switch on the wall, he throws the switch and then something happens, he falls down or something (it's different each time), and the last thing you see is always his eyes glowing in the dark. (At the beginning, he starts to make a "disclaimer" of sorts, saying that these shows may not meet the current educational needs of contemporary children.) Show #1 begins right from the top, with the circa 1969 NET color logo and the clay animation with the episode number. Compared to the version aired on Noggin, the Noggin cuts are restored. Essentially, the Noggin version had the "over under around through" film ended early, and there were a couple of repeated animated segments where the Noggin version cut the repeats (of at least one of them as I recall). However, on the DVD the "Anything People" segment is cut way short, eliminating the performance of the song "Consider Yourself." They get as far as Gordon introducing them, dressing them up and just as the song is about to start, it's on to something else. (A pox on music licensing!) Conversely, there is one "new" segment inserted from a different show, a song ("A Little Bit At The Beginning") with some filmed footage of a chicken laying an egg. This and the other shows include the "grant acknowledgements" at the end, but there is a new screen inserted in there with current Muppet ownership info, saying that Kermit belongs to the Disney company and a 2006 copyright date. One big disappointment for me was that this show now has a 1971-era PBS logo (the one which continued to be used well into the 1980s) instead of the original NET logo at the end.

The first disc also includes a whole bunch of additional segments from various shows, including the original performances of "Bein' Green" (early 1969-era looking Kermit), "Rubber Duckie" (I have seen this before, it probably is not the "pilot version"), "ABC-DEF-GHI-JKL-MNOP-QR-STUVWYXYZ," "I Love Trash" (performed by Orange Oscar!), Big Bird's first meeting with Little Bird, and a Batman animated segment about crossing the street (I personally remember this), animated by Filmation and featuring the original voices of the 1960s Batman cartoons. Each clip segment (one for each of the first five seasons) ends with a "credit crawl" from that season. In some cases (Seasons 1 and 3), it's just the credits from a particular episode, superimposed over the final scene of that show. This was kind of confusing for me...the Season 2 closing has some abstract art in it. The one for Season 4 has the camera panning down a drawing of the front steps of 123 Sesame Street with various characters...oddly enough, this same closing was used on show #355 (from Season 3), which was aired on Noggin. These must not have necessarily changed exactly at the break from one season to another. (Hal Miller--the second Gordon, listed in the credits as Harold Miller--is named in that closing, while Matt Robinson was listed in the same credit crawl at the end of show #355 on Noggin, even though neither Gordon actually appeared in that episode.) Similarly, only one Noggin show had an episode number at the beginning (#162). All five of the shows on the DVD set have the episode numbers intact, but the one on show #276 matches the one on Noggin's version of #162 (again, these are from two different seasons). I don't personally remember if these seemed to change for each season, or if different ones alternated; I'm inclined to guess the latter. (#131 uses the same audio but has completely different visuals.)

Disc 1 has an "easter egg," called "Muppet Gallery," showing a lot of sketches and drawings of the Sesame Street Muppets. It runs 0:00:47.

For show #131, just from memory, off the top of my head, I believe the "Two Little Girls And A Little Dollhouse" film was not in the Noggin version (it repeats again in #276). There also is a segment with Gordon and Big Bird where Big Bird narrowly misses being hit by a car and Gordon explains to him the importance of crossing at the light. This leads to a film about traffic lights.

Show #271 also has a couple of segments that were missing on Noggin. (I have a dupe of the original NET version of show #1, so I know the "chicken film" was not in there...so I cannot state with certainty that this is how these shows originally aired.) One is an animation with two intersecting lines that crash and get into an argument as if they've been in a traffic accident. This leads into an animation about the letter M, with a cow...asked what a cow gives (possibly anticipating the answer "milk"), the cow answers "moo." There also is another short segment at Mr. Hooper's store, where his assistant Tom explains about brushes, leading into the "Up And Down" brushing teeth song with the hippo at the zoo.

I haven't watched the rest of the bonus segments all the way through, or the other two shows, but I can say that Harold Miller (as the second Gordon) has at least one additional scene in #406 that was cut from the Noggin version. It is in the Miller shows that we see the only appearances of Roosevelt Franklin on this set. By then, Jerry Nelson had taken over his voice, so I'm pretty sure there are no instances of Matt Robinson speaking for him (the "clapping" segment where Roosevelt appears with other Muppets seems to date from the first three seasons, but Roosevelt does not speak in that segment). I'll report back once I watch the rest of the set, if anyone's interested.

The information in the booklet is very interesting, but some of the stats are incorrect (I am guessing they cribbed some of the info from the 1998 "Sesame Street Unpaved" book), such as the dates of when the Gordons changed. In fact, Roscoe Orman is pictured in the book, which claims he joined the show in 1973 (Orman actually joined at the start of the 1974-1975 season; his first appearance was in show #666, so he does not appear at all in this set). This is a minor quibble.

This isn't perfect, but it is definitely a "must-have!"

(Reposted from Home Theatre Forum, I didn't feel like saying the same thing over again)

nickramer
10-21-2006, 09:33 PM
The litle white guy was created by the late Cliff Roberts who is best known for working at UPA New York and also created Jasper and Julius. He also did the short-lived Sesame Street comic strip, which can be seen here (http://http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Sesame_Street_%28comic_strip%29) Wish Sesame Workshop could reprint these strips.

speedy fast
10-22-2006, 12:51 AM
I would like to point out that around this time last year, though I think it was closer to Thanksgiving, somebody at Muppet Central contacted Sesame Workshop concerning the possibility of releasing a nostalgia set like this and was told that Sesame Workshop was planning something like this, but it would most like be released in 2007 at the earliest. We should feel luckey that this set is going to be released sooner, in 2006, instead of a few months like originally thought. Of course, I don't know if releasing the set in 2007 instead would have given us the cut musical numbers, but at least we are getting it this year instead of next year.

Kevin McCorry
10-22-2006, 08:24 AM
So, there's only one Jazzy Spies item (and it's duplicated in two shows) and two Song of Number/baker segments. Must say I'm very disappointed as I was hoping to see the full set of both. No Sad Flower Song either.

MarkTheShark
10-22-2006, 09:46 AM
So, there's only one Jazzy Spies item (and it's duplicated in two shows) and two Song of Number/baker segments. Must say I'm very disappointed as I was hoping to see the full set of both. No Sad Flower Song either.

The Jazzy Spies segments continued to be used in numerous shows for a number of years. Since this is Volume 1, I am assuming more volumes are forthcoming (covering other periods in the show's history). Chances are more of those will be there.

The Sad Flower film is in at least three or four "Unpaved" shows, so it's going around. (Mostly from the first season.) It also was used in #1839 (the death of Mr. Hooper episode) and I would certainly imagine that on a future set, that episode will be included, as celebrated as it is. (Celebrated might not be the right word, but you probably know what I mean.)

Jon Cooke
10-22-2006, 04:11 PM
The SS set sounds interesting, I may pick it up if the price is right (or maybe just rent).

Going off-topic a little but I am guessing it is music licensing issues that is holding up the release of The Muppet Show Season 2. :(

nickramer
10-22-2006, 05:18 PM
The SS set sounds interesting, I may pick it up if the price is right (or maybe just rent).

Going off-topic a little but I am guessing it is music licensing issues that is holding up the release of The Muppet Show Season 2. :(
I'm pretty sure that The Muppet Show Season 2 will come out. They recently had a cover voting poll on their website (though none of the covers were similar to Season one's). We're just going to have a long wait similar to the Walt Disney Treasures: Wave 3 sets (and just like that, its going to be released in the spring).

speedy fast
10-24-2006, 03:52 PM
Well, it iss upposed to have been released today, but I haven't found any copies of it anywhere. Some people at Muppet Central apparantly haven't been able to find any, either. I wonder what the deal is.

Bugs Bunny
10-24-2006, 05:48 PM
Well, it iss upposed to have been released today, but I haven't found any copies of it anywhere. Some people at Muppet Central apparantly haven't been able to find any, either. I wonder what the deal is.

I know for a fact Future Shop had their coppies four days before the actual release date . Later found out they weren't allowed to sell theirs they pulled it of the shelves.You should check their price it is a bit expensive $ 35. 00.

JPox
10-24-2006, 05:58 PM
I just picked up a copy from Future Shop for a mere $34 with taxes.
I was surprised that it was cheaper than $39.

Guess I'll get re-aquainted with an old friend named television tonight.

TnAdct1
10-24-2006, 10:59 PM
Well, it iss upposed to have been released today, but I haven't found any copies of it anywhere. Some people at Muppet Central apparantly haven't been able to find any, either. I wonder what the deal is. My local Borders had a few copies of it when I went there today to look for some anime and manga.

That 70s Mom
10-27-2006, 10:00 PM
Any reviews? Are there any classic cartoon bits, such as Pink Panther, Superman, Jughead, or anyone else?

Bugs Bunny
10-27-2006, 10:19 PM
Any reviews? Are there any classic cartoon bits, such as Pink Panther, Superman, Jughead, or anyone else?

Yes Beetle Bailey, Batman , Superman appear on this set. You can always check the Muppet Central review.

Studio Toledo
10-27-2006, 10:36 PM
Yes Beetle Bailey, Batman , Superman appear on this set. You can always check the Muppet Central review.
Heh, just remembered the Beetle Bailey one personally!

The G Man
10-28-2006, 02:06 AM
This is neat - the DVD booklet contains a quote from Chuck Jones:

The major and most important phenomenon is that no commercial show will ever be quite the same ... I have a feeling that Joan Ganz Cooney [Executive Director, CTW] and David Connell [Vice President and Executive Producer] have opened a Pandora's box that will scare the hell out of everybody in TV because the TV-watching child will devour Sesame Street to the last crumb. And if that is true, some network is going to realize that intelligence is just conceivably commercial, which is so revolutionary, it might just be un-American.

(From a 1969 letter to LA Times TV critic Cecil Smith)