Betty Boop question

[wackyoverkhaki]

Was the :betty: short "Poor Cinderella" originally in color? It was the only one in color out of the hundred or so shorts in My Definitive Betty Boop collection, which led me to conclude that either it was originally in b&w but the version disappeared so they put the colored one on there, or for some odd reason the Fleischer studios randomly decided that that particular short should be made in color. If so, why just that one cartoon? And :betty: as a redhead? That's just weeeird.

[Sogturtle]

Was the :betty: short "Poor Cinderella" originally in color? It was the only one in color out of the hundred or so shorts in My Definitive Betty Boop collection, which led me to conclude that either it was originally in b&w but the version disappeared so they put the colored one on there, or for some odd reason the Fleischer studios randomly decided that that particular short should be made in color. If so, why just that one cartoon? And :betty: as a redhead? That's just weeeird.

Wackyoverkhaki~

Been on vacation eh??:D

And YES "Poor Cinderella" was indeed made originally in color. Why you say... Simple... It was to inaugurate the Fleischer's new series of "Color Classic" cartoons. Sooooo they chose to build the first "Color Classic" around their one true sound-era character creation (they didn't create Popeye). So Le Boop got the first scale Technicolor treatment (oops excuse me, CINECOLOR treatment), right down to those reddish locks...:betty::red:

[Pity all the Color Classics couldn't have been so good or had an occasional Betty starring role.]

[JDWeil]

Wackyoverkhaki~

Been on vacation eh??:D

And YES "Poor Cinderella" was indeed made originally in color. Why you say... Simple... It was to inaugurate the Fleischer's new series of "Color Classic" cartoons. Sooooo they chose to build the first "Color Classic" around their one true sound-era character creation (they didn't create Popeye). So Le Boop got the first scale Technicolor treatment, right down to those reddish locks...:betty::red:

[Pity all the Color Classics couldn't have been so good or had an occasional Betty starring role.]


Excuse me, but Poor Cinderella was shot in Cinecolor.

[FleischerFan]

In the early days of color there were basically 3 processes: Cinecolor, 2-strip Technicolor and 3-strip Technicolor. The 3-strip process was the only one that could produce a complete spectrum of color. Cinecolor, like 2-strip Technicolor, only used two different colors. One of the processes used red & green, the other used red and blue. I can never remember which used which.

The two-color processes look a little "washed out" due to the lack of that 3rd primary color. Disney, always the visionary, locked up exlcusive rights to true 3-color Technicolor in the early 30's - using it first on the Silly Symphonies, and then eventualy on the Mickey's.

When Disney's exclusive contract with Technicolor expired, the other studios were finally allowed to use 3-color Technicolor. Fliescher's Color Classics series eventually shifted to true full color.

Betty's "Poor Cinderella" BTW is one of the better 2-color cartoons from any studio, but you are correct - the red hair is a bit jarring.

[Sogturtle]

Excuse me, but Poor Cinderella was shot in Cinecolor.

YES JD, you're quite right and I was wrong, it was Cincecolor not Technicolor of any flavor. I wrote that post very rapidly off the top of my pointed head while enroute to bed (and didn't stop to double-check the color process).

[ThePeterNetwork]

I still prefer Betty as a brunette than a redhead. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/PFay/Florida%20pics/BettyBoop.jpg

[dandu]

Here's something, seeing what the Korean colorizers did to various other cartoons, I would think Betty would have blond or more likely red hair, but I'm surprised that they kept her hair color black from what I have seen, unless you guys saw a colorization of her with her hair a different color.

Anyway I like Poor Cinderella and that previous picture looked pretty cool, they should make a live action Betty Boop movie with her! :betty:

[mmm...donuts]

Anyway I like Poor Cinderella and that previous picture looked pretty cool, they should make a live action Betty Boop movie with her! :betty:
Shhhh! Don't give the Hollywood producers this kind of ideas! Looking at the quality of most cartoons' live action transpositions, one can only wonder what kind of movie they could come up with! :D :p
(But I would approve it if this is the price we'd have to pay to get at last a complete Betty Boop DVD collection!)

[Do-Do]

One of the processes used red & green, the other used red and blue. I can never remember which used which.


Two-strip Technicolor = red and green
Cinecolor = red and blue

If you ask me, Cinecolor looked much better than the T-ST.

[frizfrelengfan]

For a good example of two-strip Technicolor see "I Haven't Got a Hat" on LTGC 3. There is even a gag at the end that emphasizes the two colors.

[Jack G.]

(But I would approve it if this is the price we'd have to pay to get at last a complete Betty Boop DVD collection!)That's a reason for me to approve!:betty:

I can't think of any live action adaptations of cartoon characters that I really like though.

[wackyoverkhaki]

Wackyoverkhaki~

Been on vacation eh??:D

And YES "Poor Cinderella" was indeed made originally in color. Why you say... Simple... It was to inaugurate the Fleischer's new series of "Color Classic" cartoons. Sooooo they chose to build the first "Color Classic" around their one true sound-era character creation (they didn't create Popeye). So Le Boop got the first scale Technicolor treatment (oops excuse me, CINECOLOR treatment), right down to those reddish locks...:betty::red:

[Pity all the Color Classics couldn't have been so good or had an occasional Betty starring role.]



Thanks for the :betty: info, that's been stumping me for a very long time. And to answer your question, yeah I've been on hiatus for a while-first I went on trip out west (in :bbear: country!) with my folks for a couple of weeks, then my computer got killed by a virus so I had to get a new one-ironically enough it would've cost more to fix my old one than buy a new one, so that took awhile:mad:

[FleischerFan]

Well, there was a live action Betty Boop sketch featuring Bernadette Peters done as a skit on Saturday Night Live many, many years ago. The skit was so well received that there were plans afoot for a short while to create a Boop broadway musical featuring Ms. Peters. It never materialized.

Here's something, seeing what the Korean colorizers did to various other cartoons, I would think Betty would have blond or more likely red hair, but I'm surprised that they kept her hair color black from what I have seen, unless you guys saw a colorization of her with her hair a different color.
I'm not understanding this comment at all. Dandu, what were you referring to? What would Korean colorizers have to do with either this thread or the photo of the live Betty from Universal's Islands of Adventure?

"Poor Cinderella" - the cartoon under discussion - was made decades before the B&W Betty's were colorized for TV. Fleischer Studios decided to give her red hair for that cartoon as it was their first entry into color cartoons.

The live Betty is based on her classic look - short one-piece dress, wrist bracelet, etc. Betty always had black hair in the Betty merchandise that came out under the Fleischer's direction and beginning again with the Boop revival in the 1970's.

[dandu]

Sorry for going off topic. I found that interesting that the colorizers would use black for betty instead of the pallette on Poor Cinderella. If it was up to the Koreans I bet Betty would have pink or purple hair! :rolleyes:

[Sogturtle]

Well, there was a live action Betty Boop sketch featuring Bernadette Peters done as a skit on Saturday Night Live many, many years ago. The skit was so well received that there were plans afoot for a short while to create a Boop broadway musical featuring Ms. Peters. It never materialized.
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The live Betty is based on her classic look - short one-piece dress, wrist bracelet, etc. ...

FleischerFan~

And I don't know if you remember it but the country group 'Sawyer Brown' did a song called "Betty's Being Bad". The music video of it featured a live-action Betty that looked (and was attired) and acted suspiciously reminiscent of Ms. Boop, and while interacting with the band she was flirting wildly with other men...:betty::betty:

[ThePeterNetwork]

Now that's something I'd like to see. :wolfie: