Golden Collection 2 - Cover Art and Extras! (UPDATED) [Archive]

Dan Porceddu

08-11-2004, 10:42 PM

TV Shows on DVD (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=2054) has the cover art and bonus features for the second Looney Tunes Golden Collection:

Warner Home Video will soon make a general announcement for the second volume, and these extras will be listed:

Commentaries on more than 30 Cartoons
9 Behind the Tunes Featurettes
2 Documentaries
50th-Anniversary "Bugs Bunny Tribute" Show
"The Adventures of the Road Runner" 1962 TV Pilot
"From The Vaults" Bonus Cartoon Rareties
New 2004 Short "Daffy Duck for President"
Music-Only Tracks, Bridging Sequences, Audio Recording Sessions
The cover art can be found here (http://216.218.203.229/news4/LooneyTunes_GCv2.jpg). And you can find out more about the cartoons on the set and the bonus features by reading our GAC Exclusive (http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showthread.php?t=52) on this exciting new DVD set. You can see a list of the 60 cartoons on this set here (http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/looney-dvd2.html). The four-disc DVD set will be released November 2nd, 2004.

UPDATE: Cartoon Brew (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/archives/2004_08.html#000401) now has a more complete list of audio commentaries and other extras.

UPDATE (by Thad):
Two bonus documentaries included in Vol. 2 are CHUCK AMUCK and the Lorne Michaels' BUGS BUNNY/LOONEY TUNES 50th ANNIVERSAY SPECIAL from 1986.

Thad

08-11-2004, 11:23 PM

So they completed "Daffy Duck for President" just for the DVD set? Very interesting.....

And that cover art is FREAKY... But in a good sort of way, at least they actually DREW something new for a DVD release...

-Thad

Pietro

08-12-2004, 06:49 AM

And that cover art is FREAKY... But in a good sort of way, at least they actually DREW something new for a DVD release...
I agree - it looks like a PD cover. WB could have at least used some vintage publicity stills from the 40s.

-Pietro:daffy:

UncleJunior

08-12-2004, 02:47 PM

Don't like the cover.

But the commentary sounds interesting.

And MORE Bugs Bunny Show excerpts, too!!

I wish though that they release the entire series on DVD.

Dan Porceddu

08-12-2004, 04:52 PM

I agree that the cover art is freaky, but I kind of like it... It's much better than the wrong sizes of the clip-art on the first one, at least the bad drawings seem intentional on this cover. The "Spotlight Collection" looks really tacky though, especially when they have clip-art of Taz, Speedy Gonzales, and Pepe LePew on there when it won't contain any cartoons with those characters... :p

-Dan

barry lee

08-12-2004, 07:39 PM

Interesting,I can't wait to see what this is going too be like.Just have to wait and see. :beepbeep::ysam: :coyote:

Philo & Gunge

08-12-2004, 07:49 PM

And to think I was going to make a recreation of Daffy Duck For President in Windows Movie Maker! I can't wait!

Pietro

08-12-2004, 08:12 PM

Lorne Michaels' BUGS BUNNY/LOONEY TUNES 50th ANNIVERSAY SPECIAL from 1986.
That should be good. I currently have a muddy VHS copy of the original airing I acquired from a trade - I can hardly wait to see a decent copy of it.

I'm also ethusiastic about John K. doing the commentary for "The Great Piggy Bank Robbey" - joy!

-Pietro:daffy:

Dan Porceddu

08-12-2004, 08:16 PM

I'm also ethusiastic about John K. doing the commentary for "The Great Piggy Bank Robbey" - joy!I bet we'll see more of John K. in the 20-minute featurette on Bob Clampett, too.

-Dan

Nanoumotion

08-12-2004, 11:49 PM

Anyone else noticed that the list of commentary tracks issued by Cartoon Brew is missing 2 items? I wonder what they are and if it is an accident of if he wants to keep us on the edge of our seats!

Anyway, my expectations for this set grew a lot since yesterday. I will definitely grab it on Nov. 2nd.

JERRY BECK

08-13-2004, 01:43 AM

Anyone else noticed that the list of commentary tracks issued by Cartoon Brew is missing 2 items? I wonder what they are and if it is an accident of if he wants to keep us on the edge of our seats!

Thanks for catching that... My mistake! Since you did, I'll give this board the first news (before I add it to Cartoon Brew):

27. SHOW BIZ BUGS - Greg Ford (and Friz Freleng)
28. RHAPSODY RABBIT - commentary by Daniel Goldmark

Nick

08-13-2004, 04:22 AM

This DVD set definately sounds promising! :) :bugs1: I can't wait to see the original titles and credits to "Back Alley Op-Roar", "Book Revue", "Baby Bottleneck" and "I Love To Singa" and watching former crappy prints such as "Gorilla My Dreams" and "Rabbit Transit". John K's commentary sounds interesting, as does Bill Melendez's and June Foray's. I've never seen the "Bugs Bunny/Looney Tune's 50th Anniversary" special, what is it about? I also wonder what the animation for "Daffy Duck For President" would be like.

As for the cover art, I hope WB won't 'improve' it like they did with the first Golden Collection cover art. :rolleyes: :sailor:

Kevin McCorry

08-13-2004, 09:29 AM

With the amount of material being listed, I'm wondering if one or all 4 of the discs will be 2-sided flipper discs (DVD-14 or DVD-18). If so, we can only hope they don't crack when being taken off their digipak spindles, or delaminate over time, or have other problems associated with DVD-14 or DVD-18. Personally, I'm hoping they'll all be single-sided, dual-layered DVD-9s.

Twage

08-13-2004, 09:41 AM

It looks great, but 63 DOLLARS?! I simply can't afford it. Some of us have to put ourselves through grad school here. What the hell are they thinking?

Thad

08-13-2004, 09:43 AM

It looks great, but 63 DOLLARS?! I simply can't afford it. Some of us have to put ourselves through grad school here. What the hell are they thinking?
That's the SRP, most stores usually carry the sets for a lot less... The SRP for this volume was the same as the first one, and that is available at most retailers for $45.

-Thad

Twage

08-13-2004, 11:03 AM

The SRP for this volume was the same as the first one

Really? That's a relief. Just a bit of sticker shock.

I mean, you'd think enough people who were involved in making these cartoons are dead now that they'd be able to mark it down a bit. I don't really think it could cost that much to clean up the shorts and make some documentaries. But that's capitalism for you. At least I can take comfort in the fact that I'm helping a junior Warner executive somewhere afford that yacht he's had his eye on. :p

Thad

08-13-2004, 11:14 AM

I mean, you'd think enough people who were involved in making these cartoons are dead now that they'd be able to mark it down a bit. I don't really think it could cost that much to clean up the shorts and make some documentaries. But that's capitalism for you. At least I can take comfort in the fact that I'm helping a junior Warner executive somewhere afford that yacht he's had his eye on. :p
When Columbia restored their color cartoon library, it costed about $1,000-$3,000 per cartoon, and they just restored whatever they could find. WB is doing a huge restoration by trying to make them the closest to the original as possible, by using the original negatives, so it's probably going to cost a lot more.

-Thad

Boy Wonder

08-13-2004, 12:12 PM

I said it on the old board, and I'll say it again:

Screw Smackdown vs. RAW, I'm getting this for $45.44 at Amazon! :ysam:

That cover art is freaky, just because it has VERY old-school Bugs on the cover.

chuckamuck45

08-13-2004, 12:15 PM

I'll gladly pay the 63 bucks...I don't mind eating ramen noodles for a long while....:D

cussinhussy

08-13-2004, 12:26 PM

I think the extras on the new dvd compilation (those that have been revealed) are super, as are most of the cartoon selections.

...but does anyone think there is too much emphasis on the coyote/roadrunner and Sylvester/Tweety pairings?

There is very little Daffy Duck, and no Foghorn Leghorn, Pepe Le Pew or Speedy Gonzales.

I am not necessarily disappointed, but just a little surprised...

-Trevor (collector)

guy incognito

08-13-2004, 12:58 PM

Sean Gaffney

08-13-2004, 01:25 PM

...but does anyone think there is too much emphasis on the coyote/roadrunner and Sylvester/Tweety pairings?

There is very little Daffy Duck, and no Foghorn Leghorn, Pepe Le Pew or Speedy Gonzales.
Well, I suppose it depends on the fan. I know several of my friends who are disappointed they didn't sling ALL the Roadrunner cartoons on there at once. To them 11 Roadrunners make them very happy.

I suspect Volume 3 might have a string of Foghorns, or Pepes.

AngryBeavers

08-13-2004, 06:51 PM

I'm disappointed, though frankly not surprised, at the cover art. Why, oh why can't Warners come up with an outer package as classy and respectful to the LT/MM legacy as the contents therein?

Or do you think it's a case where they did some focus-group testing and found that people actually like that crap? :confused:Well, they definatley screwed up Daffy on the cover. Tweety, Bugs, and Sylvester don't bother me at all. But i think the case is, someone made a mistake in the art department, and it would have taken a lot of $$$ to fix it.

Although, they could easily take a clipart of the 40s daffy (an example, the headshot of Daffy on those Bugs 50th annivarsay glasses), put it on computer, color it, and replace it over that crappy drawing of Daffy on the DVD cover. I wish I could provide a picture of the headshot of Daffy from my 50th annivarsary glass, so you guys could see what it looks like.

AngryBeavers

08-13-2004, 06:58 PM

Oh! Never mind! I found a picture of the 40s Daffy that I was referring to. This isn't the glass I have at home (the one I have has all the Looney Tunes on the glass), but this is basically the same Daffy picture:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/vicsglasses/images/daffy.jpg

Jaime_Weinman

08-13-2004, 08:19 PM

...but does anyone think there is too much emphasis on the coyote/roadrunner and Sylvester/Tweety pairings?

Well, I suspect that the contents are another compromise between the historical/archival stuff and the marketing/character-based demands of Warners. That is, the people who put together the set would presumably prefer to emphasize particular directors, chronological development of the cartoons, etc., while WB (with an eye on sales) would probably prefer to emphasize popular series characters. So the contents feature lots of pre-'48s, lots of animation-buff favorites, but also big chunks of characters who are familiar from Saturday morning repeats, like the Road Runner and Tweety.

While I think 11 Road Runners in a row will be a bit much even for kids to take in one sitting, I do think from experience that the Road Runner/Coyote and Tweety/Sylvester are extremely popular, both with kids and non-animation-buff parents, and I think these selections will be very popular and help the set sell well, and besides, there are some great cartoons in the Tweety section that aren't as familiar as they should be (like the hilarious "Snow Business," which I almost never saw growing up).

I do agree that considering Daffy's popularity, it's surprising that there's not more of him this time around (maybe the inclusion of the new Daffy short is meant to make up for this in part), but there are several very popular characters who are under-represented this time, and are probably being held in reserve for future volumes. I suspect we'll see a bunch of Yosemite Sam cartoons on a future volume, since there's only one Bugs/Sam cartoon this time out.

Jack

08-13-2004, 08:58 PM

There is very little Daffy Duck, and no Foghorn Leghorn, Pepe Le Pew or Speedy Gonzales.
I think that future volumes are going to focus on particular characters, so the next set may have all the Pepe le Pew cartoons, and the set after that may have half of Foghorn Leghorn's cartoons, etc.

In relation to the number of cartoons Daffy appeared in between 1937-64 (98 or so cartoons), he isn't that under-represented if they plan to spread his cartoons out between all the future Gold Collection releases.

Pietro

08-13-2004, 09:18 PM

http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/vicsglasses/images/daffy.jpg
Um, Brandon - I can't see it :p

-Pietro:daffy:

J. B. Warner

08-13-2004, 09:32 PM

Building upon what Jaime Weinman and Jack said, I believe the third set may be organized by director. Disc 1 could feature all Jones cartoons (where they can finally put "Duck! Rabbit! Duck!", "Robin Hood Daffy", "Chow Hound", several Pepe and Marvin cartoons, some later Road Runners like "To Beep or Not to Beep" and "War and Pieces", a few more Three Bears cartoons, and a few Sniffles shorts); Disc 2 could be for Freleng ("Birds Anonymous", "Knighty Knight Bugs", "Hare Trimmed", and a bunch more Speedy cartoons); Disc 3 could be for McKimson ("Daffy Doodles", "The Birth of a Notion", "A Ham in a Role", and more Foghorn and Taz cartoons here), and Disc 4 could have five shorts from Avery (including "Page Miss Glory" and "A Wild Hare"), five from Clampett (including "Draftee Daffy", "Falling Hare", "Horton Hatches the Egg", and at least one early Tweety), and five from Tashlin (including "Scrap Happy Daffy" and "Porky Pig's Feat"). That way you've got all six big-gun directors for the animation buffs plus a good equal balance of characters for the sales department.

Sean Gaffney

08-14-2004, 10:00 AM

While reading all of this 'how will they organize future sets' talk, I got to thinking. We're all thinking about Volumes 3 and 4, but how do prople think Volume 12 of Golden Collection will be organized? By then I imagine fans complaining will long since have put the 'popular' classics on earlier discs, and most of the Roadrunners and Tweeties will have been used, so these later volumes will be far more varied in their content.

I'm thinking Disc 1 has a selection of B&W Merrie Melodies. Disc 2 is devoted to Norman McCabe, Disc 3 to one-shot 50s cartoons like, say Much Ado About Nutting and Mixed Master, and Disc 4 to Daffy/Speedy cartoons.

And hey, if sales continue to be great and they increase it to 2 a year, we could see this volume by 2009! ;)

Javeman

08-14-2004, 10:35 AM

I like the cover. At least they tried to make Bugs like the original Avery/Givens model. I hope they don't change it.

Future sets should include cartoons from the 60s, and I mean pronto! Otherwise volume 20 would be nothing but late McKimson and Alex Lovy cartoons.

Kevin McCorry

08-14-2004, 12:25 PM

While reading all of this 'how will they organize future sets' talk, I got to thinking. We're all thinking about Volumes 3 and 4, but how do people think Volume 12 of Golden Collection will be organized?
I reckon that one will have a smattering of Bugs, Tweety, Sylvester, Daffy, and Foghorn cartoons, the same cartoons that always seem to be passed over. Ones like "His Hare-Raising Tale", "Oily Hare", "Hare-Less Wolf", "No Parking Hare", "Now Hare This", "Half Fare Hare", "Trick or Tweet", "Tom-Tom Tomcat", "Tweet Dreams", "A Kiddie's Kitty", "Pappy's Puppy", "His Bitter Half", "Aqua Duck", "Sock-A-Doodle Do", "Raw, Raw, Rooster", and "Weasel While You Work". And one-shot cartoons like "A Fox in a Fix", "Easy Peckins", "Punch Trunk", "Two Crows From Tacos", "Martian Through Georgia", and "Bartholomew Versus the Wheel". Plus some of the Larriva Road Runners.

I'm thinking Disc 1 has a selection of B&W Merrie Melodies. Disc 2 is devoted to Norman McCabe, Disc 3 to one-shot 50s cartoons like, say Much Ado About Nutting and Mixed Master, and Disc 4 to Daffy/Speedy cartoons.
That's also a possibility. But I'd hope to see "Much Ado About Nutting" much earlier in the line. It was released in the Golden Jubilee 24 Karat Collection, and it's my hope that all of those cartoons are on the next couple of DVD volumes.

AngryBeavers

08-14-2004, 01:03 PM

Um, Brandon - I can't see it :p

-Pietro:daffy:Right click on it and hit "Properties", the URL for the pic should be there. Just put that in the browser, and the pic should work.

Jack

08-14-2004, 01:09 PM

Right click on it and hit "Properties", the URL for the pic should be there. Just put that in the browser, and the pic should work.
Ah, he's talking about the classic 1940's Daffy Duck pose, the same one I used to make the Daffy Duck smilie on this board. It looks like:

http://records.goldenagecartoons.com/l2.jpg

Lee Glover

08-14-2004, 07:16 PM

I can't wait to get my hands on a copy! :D :bugs1: :daffy:

The cover is not bad (but it's not great, either), but I'm happy that we are getting a generous selection of pre-48 cartoons amongst a great line-up (although I would prefer to see a few more B&W cartoons, including at least one Bosko cartoon).

The commentary list is a lot more varied than the last set, but that is a good thing. It's great to see that Bill Melendez and June Foray will be contributing a commentary each, but the John Kricfalusi commentary has to be the most interesting out of the lot.

I can accept that it would be near-impossible to restore the original opening titles on every BR cartoon, but it's still fantastic to see that we will be watching "I Love To Singa", "Baby Bootleneck", "Book Revue" and "Back Alley Oproar" in all their original glory.

cbrubaker

08-15-2004, 10:58 PM

unfortunatly, since I live in Japan, I'll have to get the Japanese import of the DVD, where in each disk, they take one cartoon out to make room for subtitles and Japanese dubbing, but the disk sounds cool.

I can't wait to see "Book Revue" with original titles. Mainly because it one of my favorite Daffy Duck cartoon, and also, for many years, we only saw a Blue Ribbon print where "Revue" was misspelled as "Review". I'm surprised people like Jerry Beck managed to discover its original spelling. I guess he saw the print with original print at UCLA before us.

Billy

08-16-2004, 04:40 PM

I've been away for a few weeks, and only just got back. GC2 sure sounds great! I like the colour scheme on the cover, although the characters look downright odd.

...ooh, new smilies! :ysam: :speedy: :slow: :beepbeep: :coolcat: :sowhite: :dodo: :buddy: :honey::mickey: :goof: :scrooge: :fethry: :magoo: :huey: :audrey: :betty: :sailor:

Ok, I'm done.

Leviathan

08-16-2004, 05:42 PM

I'm Going to Buy The Golden Collection Volume 2 as soon as it comes out (November is not going to come fast enough). Lot's of Pre-48's, several Great Post-48's, and Bonus Features Galore. The Only Drawback? I'm Kind of Surprised that Old Glory is in this Collection since, while being beautifully animated, It's almost as unwatchable as Good Night, Elmer (It's No Wearing of The Grin).

guy incognito

08-16-2004, 06:05 PM

Kevin McCorry

08-16-2004, 06:42 PM

Might I humbly submit that the whole Jaime-Kevin dialogue, as fascinating as it is, has come to "hijack" this thread to an unhealthy degree?

Perhaps one of them would consider starting an entirely new thread devoted to the differences between the '40s and '50s shorts and characters, and thus allow this one to revert to its original purpose of discussing Golden Collection Vol. 2.

Just a thought.
Agreed. And to get the thread back on topic, here's a question. Which extras will be going on which discs? Or what extras do you expect will go on certain discs? "The Adventures of the Road Runner" will no doubt go on the same disc as the Road Runner cartoons, and the featurettes on "One Froggy Evening" and "What's Opera, Doc?" on Discs 4 and 1 respectively, but on what discs will Chuck Amuck, Bugs Bunny 50th Anniversary Special, and the other extras go?

Jack

08-16-2004, 07:45 PM

I split the thread and moved the pre/post 1948 debate to the TTTP.

Merrytoon

08-16-2004, 09:26 PM

but on what discs will Chuck Amuck, Bugs Bunny 50th Anniversary Special, and the other extras go?

Bugs Bunny 50th Anniversary Special will almost certainly be on disc 1 with the Bugs cartoons, and I'm willing to bet Chuck Amuck will be too. With the first Golden Collection most of the features where on discs 1 and 2, with disc 1 still having a good amount more. I predict the 2nd will be the same way.

Dan Porceddu

08-17-2004, 07:02 PM

Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=B00020SK1Y/theunofficlooneyA/) now has the cover art on its page. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a revised version in the near future though... WB recently revised the cover art for the Tom and Jerry DVD set and the artwork for the original Golden Collection was changed at least three times.

-Dan

SatStorm

08-17-2004, 07:39 PM

Already pre-ordered :D

Dan Porceddu

08-19-2004, 09:01 PM

Michael Barrier posted the following on his website (http://www.michaelbarrier.com/) on last Sunday:
Thanks to Jerry Beck, I no longer have to bite my tongue about the second Golden Collection (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00020SK1Y/michaelbarrie-20)of Warner Bros. cartoons, out on DVD this fall. Jerry has posted a complete list of the bonus features, including eleven audio commentaries I recorded in Little Rock last spring, at the Cartoon Brew (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/archives/2004_08.html#000401)site. There will be a total of thirty-one audio commentaries, including some by people other than the usual suspects: I'm very much looking forward to hearing what Bill Melendez says about The Big Snooze and John Kricfalusi says about The Great Piggy Bank Robbery. Bob Clampett will be an especially powerful presence in this set, but as the list of bonus features indicates, many other important contributors to the Warner cartoons will be receiving their due as well.
I think the greatest information in this paragraph is Bob Clampett's "especially powerful presense" in the set, which means we may be seeing more Clampett-related featurettes or bonus shorts revealed as more and more bonus feature lists keep leaking out.

-Dan

Boy Wonder

08-27-2004, 03:13 PM

Well, my Christmas list is starting... man can Election day have good stuff get released.

ohmahaaha

08-27-2004, 03:59 PM

This is the set that I am the most excited about this year, no contest. I can't wait to see "Kitty Cornered," "Book Review" and the other Clampett selections they have on this one; and I'm especially excited that it looks to be fully half of the cartoons on this set are pre-1948. This set is going to be incredible.

John Pannozzi

08-28-2004, 12:46 PM

This is gonning to be cool. Like several other, I look forward to John K.'s commentary for tGPBR ('specially since I met John K. and his folks up in Ottawa earlier this month). This will a must-buy, along with Tom and Jerry, Ren and Stimpy, etc. I'm prob'ly gonna get it for my birthday in Nov.

Cheers! :bugs1: :daffy: :tweety: :sylvester :shame: :ysam: :speedy: :beepbeep: :coyote: :lepew: :marvin: :coolcat: :sowhite: :slow: :dodo: :bosko: :honey: :buddy: