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scewy
05-15-2006, 12:34 PM
Sylvester and Son / Crazy Legs Crane and son
Spike and Tyke / Doggy and Doggy Daddy
Cat Concerto / Similar Bugs toon
Barney Bear / Yogi Bear / Bear that wasn't?
Phil Silvers Show / Top Cat

Above is a list of shows/characters which perhaps used the same ideas not sure about the fourth one but maybe you see why I chose it.

Can anyone add to that.

frizfrelengfan
05-15-2006, 01:53 PM
Herman and Katnip / Tom and Jerry
Baby Huey / Baby Bear (from the WB cartoons)
Fox and Crow / Buzzy the Crow and any other character
Tommy Tortoise and Moe Hare / Cecil Turtle and Bugs Bunny

(Famous Studios cartoons are a bit derivative, aren't they?)

Geezil
05-15-2006, 02:05 PM
(Famous Studios cartoons are a bit derivative, aren't they?)

Speaking of which:

Little Lulu / :audrey:

frizfrelengfan
05-15-2006, 02:16 PM
Speaking of which:

Little Lulu / :audrey:
Yes, they were even derivative of themselves! (In this case it was probably to save royalties by replacing a character that they didn't own with an original character.)

JDWeil
05-15-2006, 02:30 PM
Speaking of which:

Little Lulu / :audrey:


Yes, Famous Studios did replace Little Lulu for a time, Remember Little Audrey?

doctoon
05-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Roland and Rattfink/THE DOVER BOYS
Tijuana Toads/TWO CROWS FROM TACOS
Rapid Rabbit and Quick Brown Fox/Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote

scewy
05-15-2006, 03:00 PM
Does anyone agree with some of my sugestions.

Sylvester and Son trying to catch giant mice (baby kangaroos).
Crazy Legs and Son same idea but trying to catch a dragonfly and Junior often put a bag over his head just like :shame:

I chose Barney Bear and Yogi because of the links with Hanna and Barbera.

The Bear That Wasn't (a strange cartoon) by Chuck Jones for MGM (hense the Barney Bear link) looked a cross between Barney and Yogi.

Indeed T.B.T.W. was similar to an early Yogi Bear Cartoon in which a freeway is built around Yogis tree trunk house.

T.B.T.W. featured a bear remarkably resembling Barney Bear in which he wakes up from his winter nap to discover a skyscraper has been built over his home and everyone thinks he's silly man who hasn't shaved and wears a fur coat.

I hope that explains my link and I'm sure someone will put me right if I'm wrong.

Geezil
05-15-2006, 03:05 PM
Yes, Famous Studios did replace Little Lulu for a time[...]

... or for all time, if you're among those who prefer to discount Famous' ill-advised and (predictably) just as ill-executed revival of Lulu in 1961-62 (in one short, as part of the Comic Kings series, yet!).

mmm...donuts
05-15-2006, 03:31 PM
Mickey Mouse, Minnie Mouse and Pluto/Bosko, Honey and Bruno (but also Flip the Frog, his various girlfriends and his dog, Foxy and Roxy, Cubby Bear and his girlfriend...)

doctoon
05-15-2006, 05:11 PM
Speaking of latter-day Famous, there's also Goodie the Gremlin ripping off Casper the Friendly Ghost.

Tom41
05-15-2006, 06:15 PM
Speaking of which, there were several Pink Panther cartoons which seemed to 'steal' ideas from older Looney Tunes. It's not surprising, as Freleng created Pink Panther in the first place, but I've seen more than one PP cartoon where the storyline is identical to an older LT cartoon! It's like they just took the old LT and put the Pink Panther characters in it! Were they trying to save money on story writers or something? ;)

Unfortunately, I can't remember any cartoon names right now...

doctoon
05-15-2006, 06:21 PM
Speaking of which, there were several Pink Panther cartoons which seemed to 'steal' ideas from older Looney Tunes. It's not surprising, as Freleng created Pink Panther in the first place, but I've seen more than one PP cartoon where the storyline is identical to an older LT cartoon! It's like they just took the old LT and put the Pink Panther characters in it! Were they trying to save money on story writers or something? ;)

Unfortunately, I can't remember any cartoon names right now...

From what I've been told here, Friz Freleng had a lot of input on stories at DFE and was not above reusing old WB ideas. There's duplication in a lot of DFE shorts: HORSE HARE's arrow gag in TRICK OR RETREAT, HONEY'S MONEY's plot in A TASTE OF MONEY, animation from HAWAIIAN AYE AYE in ISLE OF CAPRICE, THE LAST HUNGRY CAT's plot of unnecessary guilty feelings in CARTE BLANCHED, and so on.

But back to borrowed characters, Hoot Kloot is a nonviolent copy of Yosemite Sam. Blue Racer lisps like Sylvester and Daffy but, in LITTLE BOA PEEP, the snake hides his head in a bag like Sylester Jr.

absolutpaul
05-15-2006, 07:04 PM
"Rabbit Stew and Rabbits Too" - how can we forget that one? (and the rabbit toots a horn for no reason whatsoever!)

Mr. Semaj
05-15-2006, 10:02 PM
Yes, Famous Studios did replace Little Lulu for a time, Remember Little Audrey?

Oddly, I always preferred Audrey over Lulu.

There was this one 1957 Audrey cartoon (which I never saw, but am dying to see), that has a premise similar to Disney's 1941 Truant Officer Donald.

Andy Panda was practically Mickey Mouse's twin in his later cartoons, to the extent that he had a dog named Milo, his girl, Miranda dressed like Minnie, and the characters were even animated by Freddie Moore!

Bobby Bickert
05-15-2006, 10:32 PM
Speaking of latter-day Famous, there's also Goodie the Gremlin ripping off Casper the Friendly Ghost.


Also, Paramount came up with a new cat-and-mouse team to replace Herman and Katnip, Skit and Skat. The replacements lasted long enough to get their own coloring book.

Debbie
05-15-2006, 11:49 PM
I don't recall the Pink Panther cartoon's title, but there was one with the Pink Panther trying to ride a stubborn horse that Friz Freleng later re-used the idea (and the horse design) in "Daffy Flies North" (part of Daffy Duck's Easter Special).

When they started doing TV work, Hanna and Barbera tended to borrow a lot of ideas from their old MGM work:

Tom and Jerry/Pixie and Dixie and Mr. Jinks/Punkin' Puss and Mushmouse
Spike and Tyke/Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy (Oddly, I liked the latter better...Augie is so cute!)
Little Quacker (did this duck have a name?)/Yakky Doodle (How did they get away with that one? Both ducks are exactly the same, except for their coloring...they even had the same voice!)
Huckleberry Hound/Droopy (not nearly as similar as the others, and actually borrowed from Tex Avery, but watching some of these on the DVD set, they started to remind me of Droopy cartoons).

The Silver Fox
05-16-2006, 02:38 AM
what about

Flintstones/Honeymousers/Honeymooners