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rodney
05-09-2006, 06:08 PM
Anybody know what's coming up in the June Gemstone books, besides the new Treasures book?
I'll be putting them up tonight! I think David may have seen to it that personal favorites of mine were printed in my b-day month...
David Gerstein
05-09-2006, 06:29 PM
It was actually just a coincidence that we got both stories you asked for into the books in your birthday month!
(And just so you know that I'm all for equality, guys, others besides Thad have been requesting stories too—and we're doing our dangedest to get some of them into print. Two favorites of longtime reader Joe Torcivia, "The Return of the Phantom Blot" and "The World Under the Sea," both appeared in Mickey Mouse earlier this year.)
I'm really looking forward to Gemstone's issues this summer. I updated the info, but I still need images for June (I have July just not resized).
David do you think you could help me out?
ohmahaaha
05-09-2006, 07:26 PM
Anybody know what's coming up in the June Gemstone books, besides the new Treasures book?
Whoa - I thought the new Treasures book was coming out in August??
David Gerstein
05-09-2006, 08:58 PM
Treasures will be shipping in late July (Amazon still says July 5, but they're a little out of date... I suspect they'll fix the ship date when they add a picture of the cover).
It might reach some shops before the end of July, but it's safe to say that it'll be everywhere by August—which is why our ads are worded the way they are. (-:
Treasures will be shipping in late July (Amazon still says July 5, but they're a little out of date... I suspect they'll fix the ship date when they add a picture of the cover).
It might reach some shops before the end of July, but it's safe to say that it'll be everywhere by August—which is why our ads are worded the way they are. (-:
David, think you could send me the covers of the June issues? I forgot to update it last month, and they are impossible to find now. Thanks.
David Gerstein
05-09-2006, 10:04 PM
Done and done, man.
Jon Cooke
05-09-2006, 10:11 PM
What is Scrooge holding on the cover for #356? A TV set? :confused:
[EDIT - OK, Thad told me it was a boom box with parrots in it (since Scrooge is so cheap he'd rather listen to birds than buy a radio). You'd think that buying parrots would be MORE expensive than buying a radio!)]
Robert Hutching
05-09-2006, 11:13 PM
Hey David, the image of DD 242 looks like Strobl art, not Barks as the description states. Correct?
David Gerstein
05-09-2006, 11:33 PM
I'm afraid not! That really is a Barks cover—though you'd half-swear he was trying to mimick Strobl's style a little. (It's hard to know what Carl might have made of "Og's Iron Bed," an adventure mixing Biblical legends with some outrageous Gyro and Emil Eagle gadgets.)
[Later postscript: I was actually incorrect here (see below), so Robert wins the bet. I hope I don't have to wash his dishes for a month.]
Robert Hutching
05-09-2006, 11:38 PM
Wow. I would have bet money on that one. Guess I would have lost it.
Matt Zimmer
05-10-2006, 10:41 AM
I can't wait for the Treasures collection! So far I have every Gemstone comic ever made and I plan to keep it that way!
ohmahaaha
05-10-2006, 04:09 PM
You'd think that buying parrots would be MORE expensive than buying a radio!)]
Especially if they were Pixilated Parrots! :)
Bugs Bunny
05-12-2006, 01:49 AM
I'm afraid not! That really is a Barks cover—though you'd half-swear he was trying to mimick Strobl's style a little. (It's hard to know what Carl might have made of "Og's Iron Bed," an adventure mixing Biblical legends with some outrageous Gyro and Emil Eagle gadgets.)
David, I hate to say this but I'm pretty sure the cover is by Strobl. The Donald looks like Barksstyle. I can tell by the way he adds the "pie eyes". There might be a mistake in DDF#342 listing Strobl's work for Barks.
David Gerstein
05-12-2006, 09:43 AM
Hey Bugs— you're right! (And so was Robert!)
I'd got the Barks credit from an old colleague, and the design of Donald was what convinced us that it really was his. We've since done some double-checking, and it seems my old friend was wrong... but I was fooled.
I'm a yutz. Time to eat crow (that sounds logical!).
Robert Hutching
05-12-2006, 08:47 PM
Hey Bugs— you're right! (And so was Robert!)
I'd got the Barks credit from an old colleague, and the design of Donald was what convinced us that it really was his. We've since done some double-checking, and it seems my old friend was wrong... but I was fooled.
I'm a yutz. Time to eat crow (that sounds logical!).
Hey, looks like I win my bet afterall! Whaddaya know!
I was commenting elsewhere that that really is some of the best Strobl cover art that I've seen. And the coloring is really good also.
Robert Hutching
05-14-2006, 07:56 PM
I agree, Dub. It's a great cover, and I'm glad Gemstone is running it. Likewise with the story, for that matter. I'm glad Gemstone's running more Strobl stuff. I've certainly written a number of emails on his behalf. I can understand why older readers might think of him as "not-Barks" and thus dislike his work, but as someone who grew up on both with later Gold Key issues, I think he's greatly underappreciated.
I agree, Dub. It's a great cover, and I'm glad Gemstone is running it. Likewise with the story, for that matter. I'm glad Gemstone's running more Strobl stuff. I've certainly written a number of emails on his behalf. I can understand why older readers might think of him as "not-Barks" and thus dislike his work, but as someone who grew up on both with later Gold Key issues, I think he's greatly underappreciated.
As far as Strobl goes, I think his work suffers the same problem that Paul Murry's work suffers from: once you get past a certain point in thier careers thier art plummets in quality and good stories by them are very few and far between. I have to admit, normally I am *not* a big fan of Strobl (which is why I was amazed at the quality of this cover) especially late 50's-70's era Strobl. The main difference between early Strobl VS early Barks, and part of what makes it likeable, is that Strobl's ducks (to me anyway) seemed a lot more loose and rubbery. he had a very distinct style to his work, praticularly when it came to the ducks beaks, which differentiated him from Barks and by all accounts it wasnt bad. His later stuff however is where he gets a bad rep as IMO it becomes absolutely archaic. Best analysis: Donalds legs were way too short for his body, backgrounds were minimal at best (Murry had the problem of excluding BG's entirely further along in his career), and Uncle Scrooge's normally poofy beard was reduced to stubble. As far as his Mickey goes, personally I like neither his early OR late Mickey as I have yet to have seen a good Mickey story by him from either era (his Mickey comes across as very off all around). I'm not trying to totally knock the guy though - like I said, his early Donald is fun (There's one story in particular called Paper Route Panic that I remember as being very funny) and do agree that its underappreciated as well. Barks is not without fault also - his art deteriorated in this era also, but not to the extent of Murry (whose heart obviously wasnt in it at all) and Strobl (who was all over the map). I believe bad story quality also had a very large hand in that.
Anyways - getting back to the topic, I am glad to see this story as I've heard that its one of the better examples of the stories of this era (Gemstones better production values will also help ^__^). Plus it has Emil Eagle. I'm a sucker for Emil Eagle. :)
Robert Hutching
05-15-2006, 11:51 AM
As far as Strobl goes, I think his work suffers the same problem that Paul Murry's work suffers from: once you get past a certain point in thier careers thier art plummets in quality and good stories by them are very few and far between. I have to admit, normally I am *not* a big fan of Strobl (which is why I was amazed at the quality of this cover) especially late 50's-70's era Strobl. The main difference between early Strobl VS early Barks, and part of what makes it likeable, is that Strobl's ducks (to me anyway) seemed a lot more loose and rubbery. he had a very distinct style to his work, praticularly when it came to the ducks beaks, which differentiated him from Barks and by all accounts it wasnt bad. His later stuff however is where he gets a bad rep as IMO it becomes absolutely archaic. Best analysis: Donalds legs were way too short for his body, backgrounds were minimal at best (Murry had the problem of excluding BG's entirely further along in his career), and Uncle Scrooge's normally poofy beard was reduced to stubble. As far as his Mickey goes, personally I like neither his early OR late Mickey as I have yet to have seen a good Mickey story by him from either era (his Mickey comes across as very off all around). I'm not trying to totally knock the guy though - like I said, his early Donald is fun (There's one story in particular called Paper Route Panic that I remember as being very funny) and do agree that its underappreciated as well. Barks is not without fault also - his art deteriorated in this era also, but not to the extent of Murry (whose heart obviously wasnt in it at all) and Strobl (who was all over the map). I believe bad story quality also had a very large hand in that.
Anyways - getting back to the topic, I am glad to see this story as I've heard that its one of the better examples of the stories of this era (Gemstones better production values will also help ^__^). Plus it has Emil Eagle. I'm a sucker for Emil Eagle. :)
I gotta admit I'm a sucker for Strobl's work for all ages. Yeah, I know, it wasn't always of stellar quality, but the facial expressions of the ducks, especially the nephews, is both revealing and in a kind of Walt Kelly way, endearing. "Paper Root Panic" was/is a great story; I think you'll especially like this upcoming one. Long been one of my favorites. Question (or two) on Emil Eagle: I know he was created by Vic Lockman, but anybody have any idea when? And I've seen him referred to as both "Emil Eagle" and "Evil Eagle." Can anybody shed light on that?
germund
06-09-2006, 07:21 AM
(There's one story in particular called Paper Route Panic that I remember as being very funny)
Wow, are there some interesting discussions going on here... Not to loose my day writing, let me just agree that Paper Route Panic is a great story, as were a handful of other Strobl stories written by Bob Gregory and published around 1960. These are among the few Donald stories I believe reach the heights of Barks. Examples are Food for Thoughts (DD67), The Fabulous Fiddlesticks (DD68), One for the Whammy (DD65), Riverboat Shuffle (DD73) etc. Grrrreeeat stuff!
Murry (whose heart obviously wasnt in it at all)
And yes, regarding Murry: He never had a genuine interest in Disney comics. He loved drawing but already in the early seventies he considered Mickey a character of the past. I love his early work and depictions of weather and nature but something drastic happens after the transition from Western/DELL to Gold Key and he never really recovers. In the 40s and 60s he drew multiple gag cartoons for different mags and these were apparently far more the kind of work he really enjoyed.
HOWEVER: My main reason for posting is that I'd really like to get in touch with someone who knows much about Tony Strobl, as a person or about his non-Disney work. If any of you think "Hey, that's me!", drop me mail!
And hi David, what a surprise finding you on this forum! :)
David Gerstein
06-12-2006, 12:20 PM
Me... here? Who woulda thought?
(Everyone— Germund is a close friend of mine from Sweden. Until 2004, I lived just over the border in Denmark, just a half-hour away by train; so many an enjoyable get-together has involved Germund, myself, our mutual pal Joakim, and tons of good food, good music and great comic art.)
At Gemstone we may reprint "Paper Route Panic" within the next year sometime, BTW. Keep your eyes open!
I put up the contents of the August issues here:
http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/comingsoon
Looks like Scarpa galore! About time!
David Gerstein
06-13-2006, 12:04 PM
Yep! And there's more where that came from. Stay tuned!
I forgot to add... I love seeing Eega Beeva on a U.S. cover... And ... wow! One of the Mickey books has a cover gag that's actually funny!
I forgot to add... I love seeing Eega Beeva on a U.S. cover... And ... wow! One of the Mickey books has a cover gag that's actually funny!
I've been saying for ages that the Italian Topolino covers need to be used more often. Some of them are funny, some of them are cute, and some of them are just plain rendered excellently. A *heck* of a lot better than some of the other covers we've been getting. Is WDC&s 670 Al Taliaferro? It looks like it.
And I'm in agreement at seeing Eega Beeva on a cover. That just made my day. :)
Robert Hutching
06-13-2006, 06:15 PM
I've been saying for ages that the Italian Topolino covers need to be used more often. Some of them are funny, some of them are cute, and some of them are just plain rendered excellently. A *heck* of a lot better than some of the other covers we've been getting. Is WDC&s 670 Al Taliaferro? It looks like it.
And I'm in agreement at seeing Eega Beeva on a cover. That just made my day. :)
I'm in favor of more Topolino period, frankly. I'd like to see some of the stuff from way back, in the '30s and '40s, but I don't know if it's even possible to reprint that stuff (or if anyone besides myself wants to see it). I'm not positive, since I haven't see anything crediting it, but I'm pretty sure WDCS 670 is Taliaferro.
David Gerstein
06-13-2006, 06:55 PM
The WDC&S 670 cover reprints the cover of WDC&S 7 (1941). Latest information seems to indicate that the image—originally a publicity drawing for the cartoon short Donald and Pluto (1936)—was pencilled by Manuel Gonzales and inked by Tom Wood.
Matt Zimmer
06-15-2006, 07:33 PM
I too like seeing secondary characters on the covers. I also prefer story-specific covers to random gag covers.
I finally got The Black Knight Glorps again in the mail. I think I'll write a review.
I am thoroughly impressed with Don Rosa's latest Scrooge epic. The Black Knight in just one short appearance had become an equal foe to Scrooge to rival The Beagle Boys, Magica De Spell and Flintheart Glomgold. Reading Rosa's commentary about how he wasn't sure how to make a good return for the character was fascinating but to be perfectly honest, Arpine Lusene is such a great character that I don't think he would actually NEED the Onmi-solve Black Knight suit to make a good return appearance. Rosa obviously disagrees and managed to work the suit in quite nicely.
First off, considering how deadly the suit is I love how non-chalant Lusine is in using it. Even funnier was Donald trying to get out of the suit's way (Rosa AGAIN shows Donald's brilliance in not only escaping certain death, but helping bring down Lusine).
The beginning of the story was a great call-back to The Son of the Sun. He may have lost a Mongol crown by now but he at least regained the Philospher's stone.
I'm not sure I agree with Don Rosa's assertion in the commentary that Lusine is a "nice fella" though. Threatening to kill Donald is something NONE of Scrooge's enemies have made a habit of. To Lusine's credit he seemed to find the whole thing distasteful AND he seemed about as glad as anyone that Scrooge defeated him. I think his mission to destroy Scrooge's money isn't something he wants to do but rather something he NEEDS to do to convince himself to retire.
I was actually surprised that Lupine managed to dissolve some of Scrooge's cash. I've seen Scrooge lose money before but this is the first time I've seen him lose some of his Bin money since Carl Barks' The Doom Diamond.
I'm a little bit surprised Scrooge fell for Arpine's news media fake-out. It seemed kind of too obvious but then again Scrooge has never been able to see through the Beagle Boys or Flintheart's disguises so I guess this kind of thing is just something you have to accept in a "kid" comic.
If Lupine were to return again and Rosa insists on using the suit again it would have to be a looooong story considering where the suit wound up. Half the story would have to be about getting the suit back.
I want Arpine back badly but I really hope Rosa finds ways to do it without the suit so it could be more frequent. If not I could do with cameos like the one in AATTTAAAAAACK!
Great story and Rosa is on top of his game. And Donald didn't get punked so YAY! *****.
Robert Hutching
06-20-2006, 02:38 AM
About Arpine Lusene returning, I agree. Rosa concentrates so much on further developing the duck world as Barks created it, that I think sometimes he forgets he can add creations of his own. Similarly, he has such a remarkable ability to write stories within the boundaries of what Barks accomplished, that I think he sometimes thinks his ventures outside those boundaries aren't any good. If I'm even remotely correct, boy is Rosa wrong. Anyhow, Lusene would be a great character to bring in periodically, like the Beagles or Magica, because his personality is completely different and new from all other duck-world characters. Hopefully he does it.
ohmahaaha
06-21-2006, 07:30 PM
Question for anyone out there regarding the latest Uncle Scrooge, # 355: wasn't the lead Barks story, which here is titled "The Mysterious Stone Ray," originally just referred to in the Gold Key/Whitman days as "the cabbage story?"
David Gerstein
06-21-2006, 08:04 PM
Yep! Barks himself gave the originally untitled story several different titles in later years ("The Mysterious Unfinished Invention" and "Message From Mysterious Island" as well as "The Mysterious Stone Ray"). When Gladstone was publishing its Carl Barks Library of Uncle Scrooge Adventures in Color comic albums in the 1990s, Bruce Hamilton asked Barks to pick the title he liked the most. "Mysterious Stone Ray" was the choice, so we've used that title ever since.
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