Magilla Gorilla Air Dates

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Hi All,

I'm looking for the original air dates for the three cartoons that comprised Magilla Gorilla (Magilla, Riccochet Rabbit, Punkin' Puss & Mushmouse). I already have a list that is in production order. What I need are the air dates.

If anyone has this information, I would be forever grateful!

Thanks!

DB Jr. :chilly:

[TheBlueHombre]

Hi All,

I'm looking for the original air dates for the three cartoons that comprised Magilla Gorilla (Magilla, Riccochet Rabbit, Punkin' Puss & Mushmouse). I already have a list that is in production order. What I need are the air dates.

If anyone has this information, I would be forever grateful!

Thanks!

DB Jr. :chilly:
Magilla Gorilla aired in syndication from 1964 to 1965 and then switched to ABC from 1966 to 1967. There were thirty-one episodes in all made of the series.

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Thanks, but I need the actual air dates of each cartoon, for instance:

"The Big Game" (Magilla)
"Atchison, Topeka & San Jose" (Ricochet)
"Calling All Kin" (Punkin' Puss)

Aired September 4, 1964

I don't even necessarily need the dates, but I need to know which three cartoons aired together and in what order (like Show #1 was these three cartoons, Show #2 was these three, Show #3 was these three, etc.)

DB Jr. :chilly:

[cbrubaker]

Okay, just wondering. Are you really the son of Daws Butler?

If so, welcome! If not, welcome, anyway.

[Duck Dodgers]

Okay, just wondering. Are you really the son of Daws Butler?

If so, welcome! If not, welcome, anyway.

Yep , I was going to ask that myself !

Please do let us know .

Anyway , here you have episode 2 :

Gridiron Gorilla ( Magilla )
Good Little Bad Guy (Ricochet)

Small Change (Punkin' Puss)

[Duck Dodgers]

Here you have episode 3 :


Private Magilla ( Magilla )
Craddle Robber (Ricochet)
Hornswoggled (Punkin' Puss)


Other ones will follow later today .

[Geezil]

Okay, just wondering. Are you really the son of Daws Butler?

If so, welcome! If not, welcome, anyway.

I've been wondering that too, and will lend the benefit of the doubt for now, but I've also been Googling away at this for the better part of my lunch hour and coming up empty. (Not regarding Daws Butler himself by a longshot, just the "Jr.") :confused:

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Duck Dodgers -

The episodes you list match the lists I have, which I thought were in production order. Are you certain these are the order in which they aired?

To answer everyone else's question:

Daws had four sons. I am not one of them. However, we were very close and he called me his fifth son. About the "Jr.", one of his sons is actually his namesake... the reason you can't Google it is, "Daws" was not his first name.

DB Jr. :chilly:

[Duck Dodgers]

Duck Dodgers -

The episodes you list match the lists I have, which I thought were in production order. Are you certain these are the order in which they aired?



DB Jr. :chilly:

I made my list researching on the web a few years ago . Looking here and there . I'm pretty sure that this should have to be the original production order , even if I cannot say I am 100% sure .
But if my list match yours , this means it is highly probable that both mine and your list are the right ones .

You want to know the other episodes production orders ?

[Daws Butler Jr.]

No, thanks. I have the production order. And since my last message, I have the air order for Magilla and Ricochet... now I just need Punkin' Puss.

[Duck Dodgers]

No, thanks. I have the production order. And since my last message, I have the air order for Magilla and Ricochet... now I just need Punkin' Puss.

Let me understand , you need the order of the Punkin' Puss as they aired ?

They were the third segment in the series , they aired in this order :

Callin' All Kin
Small Change
Hornswoggled
Muscle Tussle
Cat Nipped
Army Nervy Game
Seein' Is Believein'
Courtin' Disaster
A Tale Of Two Kitties
Chomp Romp
Catch As Cat Can Day
Jump Bumps
Nowhere Bear
Legend Of Bat Mouseterson
Super Drooper
1965-1966

Pep Hep
Shot At And Missed
The Mouse From S.O.M.P.
Host Of A Ghost
1966 - 1967

Feudal Feud
Heir Conditioning
Hyde And Shriek
Misfortune Cookie

Is this of help ?

[Daws Butler Jr.]

No, sorry. That is the production order - the order that they were made, not the order they aired.

But I now have the correct information.

Thanks to everyone who tried to help! It is much appreciated!!

[Barb Herholzer]

Hmmm...Could this mean that Magilla has replaced Quick Draw on the DVD release schedule?

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Mmmm...yahhhh... could be!

[corey3rd]

Are you looking for the air dates when they swapped out Ricochet Rabbit with Breezly and Sneezly? Or had they already aired all the Magilla when the switch was made?

[Daws Butler Jr.]

No, I'm not looking for those dates at this point, but they hadn't aired all the Magillas at the point where the switch was made.

[TheBlueHombre]

I'm going to do two posts with the episodes for each of the characters on the "Magilla Gorilla Show" and they will be in airdate order. There were 31 Magilla Gorilla cartoons made.

Magilla Gorilla

Big Game
Gridiron Gorilla
Private Magilla
Bank Pranks
Groovy Movie
Airlift
Come Blow Your Dough
Mad Scientist
Masquerade Party
Come Back, Little Magilla
Fairy Godmother
Planet Zero
Prince Charming
Motorcycle Magilla
Is That Zoo?
Bird Brained
Circus Ruckus
Camp Scamps
The Purple Mask
Love At First Fight
Pet Bet
Makin' with the Magilla
High Fly Guy
Deep Sea Doodle
That Was the Geek that Was
Montana Magilla
Magilla Mix-Up
Wheelin and Deal
Mad Avenue Madness
Beau Jest
Super Blooper Heroes

[TheBlueHombre]

There were 23 cartoons made each of both Punkin' Puss and then Ricochet Rabbit. Here they are in airdate order:

Punkin’ Puss & Mush Mouse

1964 - 1965
Callin' All Kin
Small Change
Hornswoggled
Muscle Tussle
Cat Nipped
Army Nervy Game
Seein' Is Believin'
Courtin' Disaster
A Tale Of Two Kitties
Chomp Romp
Catch As Cat Can Day
Jump Bumps
Nowhere Bear
Legend Of Bat Mouseterson
Super Drooper

1965 - 1966
Pep Hep
Shot At And Missed
The Mouse From S.O.M.P.
Host Of A Ghost

1966 - 1967
Feudal Feud
Heir Conditioning
Hyde And Shriek
Misfortune Cookie

Ricochet Rabbit & Droop-A-Long

1964 - 1965
Atchison, Topeka, & Sam Jose
Good Little Bad Guy
Craddle Robber
West Pest
TV Show
Annie Hoaxley
School Daze
Sheepy Wolf
Big Thinker
Two Too Many

1965 - 1966
Bad Guys Are Good Guys
Itchy-Finger Gun Slinger
Clunko Bunko
Slick Quick Gun
Mostly Ghostly
Will 'O The Whip
Cactus Ruckus
Rapid Romance
El Loco, Loco, Loco, Loco, Diablo
Big Town Show Down
Space Sheriff
Red Riding Ricochet
Jail Break-In

[MarkTheShark]

There were 23 cartoons made each of both Punkin' Puss and then Ricochet Rabbit. Here they are in airdate order:



Thank you for this information!

Just asking as a fan/collector...

Can you please post the same for the cartoons from the Peter Potamus show?

[TheBlueHombre]

Thank you for this information!

Just asking as a fan/collector...

Can you please post the same for the cartoons from the Peter Potamus show?
Happy to do it. Two posts once again. There were 27 Peter Potamus cartoons and here they are in broadcast order:

1964 - 1965
Fee Fi Fo Fun
Lion Around
Cleo Trio
No Rest for a Pest
Wagon Train Strain
Monotony on the Bounty
The Good Hood
Stars on Mars
Kooky Spook
The Island Fling
Courtin Trouble
Big Red Riding Hood
Hurricane Hippo
What a Knight

1965 - 1966
Mask Task
Pre-Hysterical Pete
Trite Flite
Marriage Peter Potamus Style
Calaboose Caboose
Eager Ogre
The Reform of Plankenstein

1966 - 1967
Dept and Taxes
Wrong Time No See
America or Bust
Rebel Rumble
Pilgrims Regress
The Crossbow Incident

[TheBlueHombre]

Post #2. 23 cartoons for Breezly & Sneezly and then 23 cartoons for Yippee, Yappee & Yahooey.

First, here's Breezly and Sneezly:
1964 - 1965
No Place Like Home
All Riot on the Northern Front
Missle Fizzle
Mass Masquerade
Furry Furlough
Bruin Ruin
Freezing Fleas
Stars and Gripes
Armored Armour
As the Snow Flies
Snow Biz
Unseen Trouble
Nervous in the Service
Birthday Bonanza
Wacky Waikiki

1965 - 1966
General Nuisance
Rookie Wrecker
Noodick of the North
The Fastest Bear in the North
Snow Time Show TimeGoat A-Go-Go


1966 - 1967
Spy in the Ointment
All Ill Wind


Yippee, Yappee, & Yahooey
1964 - 1965
The Volunteers
Black Bart
Double Dragon
Outlaw In-Law
Horse Shoo Fly
Wild Child
Witch is Which?
Wise Quacking
Nautical Nitwits
Job Robbed
Unicorn on the Cob
Mouse Rout
Handy Dandy Lion

1965 - 1966
Sappy Birthday
King of the Roadhogs
Palace Pal Picnic
Sleepy Time King
Pie Pie Blackbird

1966 - 1967
What the Hex Going On?
Eviction Capers
Hero Sandwiched
Throne for a Loss
Royal Rhubarb

[Howard Fein]

This is quite a fascinating topic, especially for those above the age of 40 who grew up with syndicated reruns of the GORILLA/POTAMUS franchise. As discussed in a parallel thread, "Yogi/Huck Reconstructions", there's much confusion as to the original air dates and history of supporting segments for both shows.

While this thread contends that both franchises began life in syndication in fall 1964, Jeff Lemburg's ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ANIMATED CARTOONS has MAGILLA starting midseason 1963-64 and POTAMUS in fall 1964. The 1992 version of his book breaks down which episodes of all six segments aired in which season.

I have always believed that Magilla's show first aired midseason 1963-64, with Mushmouse and Ricochet as his original supporting segments (a notion supported by Lemburg). If you notice, the first handful shorts for each has a 'dedicated' title card with a still shot approximating the cartoon's plot. All H-B shows originally airing 1958-61 (except the serialized RUFF & REDDY) presented their shorts the same way. Title cards for all remaining shorts under the MAGILLA umbrella- and all Potamus/Breezely/Goofy Guard shorts as well- were identical standard poses of the featured characters. Only the episode title and copyright date changed. This format prevailed for H-B cartoons for most of the rest of the sixties through 1971.

Interestingly, the NEW H-B CARTOON SHOW that premiered in fall 1962 (more commonly known as the Wally Gator/Touche Turtle/Lippy Lion trilogy) had the same type of standard episode title cards. Maybe it was cheaper than creating an episode-specific title card, and after the first few MAGILLA installments was similarly abandoned to cut costs.

For what it's worth, all Breezely episodes have standard title cards, which always led me to believe that segment premiered in fall 1964 with the rest of the POTAMUS umbrella- not midseason 1963-64 as a MAGILLA segment.

As always, the release dates and production dates of cartoons are seldom the same. Perusing Daws Butler Junior's listing of episodes, I've noticed that the original air dates of some episodes with dedicated title cards come after those with standard title cards. Specifically, the Mushmouse short "Hornswoggled" , introduced with a standard card, aired before "Army-Nervy Game", which is introed by a dedicated card picturing Mushmouse driving a tank in pursuit of a fleeing Punkin' Puss.

In the aforementioned 'Reconstruction' thread, I raised the question of (a) exactly when ABC picked up both franchises for their Saturday AM lineups; and (b) when the new- i.e. 1966- episodes premiered. The 1966 shorts, which are distinctly different than those produced earlier (music, SFX), vary in number. There are four each of Magilla, Mushmouse and Punkin' Puss; seven of Potamus; five of the Guards and only two of Breezely. To further bolster my theory that they premiered in fall 1966 rather than earlier, there was a major cast change. Don Messick replaced Howard Morris as the voice of Mr. Peebles in the four 1966 episodes; however, he continued as Mushmouse in that segment's four 1966 episodes. Morris had a well-publicized salary dispute with Hanna and Barbera around that time, which hastened his departure from the studio- one that lasted nearly twenty years. This may explain why only two new Breezely (whom Morris also voiced) episodes were made. Perhaps to pick up the slack by the dearth of new Breezely episodes, ABC ordered additional Potamus and Guard episodes.

H-B historians will notice another effect of Morris' defection. When NBC ordered six new episodes of its Saturday AM ATOM ANT, Messick replaced Morris in the title role as well.

The GORILLA/POTAMUS package was first syndicated in New York around 1970. I recall being very confused when watching the 1966 episodes and hearing some of the same SFX and Ted Nichols/Marty Paitch background cues on 'old' afterschool cartoons as on contemporary Saturday AM shows NEW ADVENTURES OF GULLIVER, CATTANOOGA CATS, HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS and others. That's more a testament to H-B's practice of recycling background music scores- something hardly ignored by other cartoons (both made for TV:magoo: :sailor: :felix: and theatres:thinkpink :beepbeep: :coyote: ) in the sixties.

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Howard,

Very interesting theory, however, I have to disagree with you on why there were certain different numbers of supporting character cartoons made in different years. Howie's departure couldn't have had anything to do with it, because if you notice, in the end, all four cartoons had the same number of epsiodes (Ricochet, Punkin' Puss, Breezly and the Goofy Guards with 23 each). The only two that differ are Magilla and Peter.

[TheBlueHombre]

Howard,

Very interesting theory, however, I have to disagree with you on why there were certain different numbers of supporting character cartoons made in different years. Howie's departure couldn't have had anything to do with it, because if you notice, in the end, all four cartoons had the same number of epsiodes (Ricochet, Punkin' Puss, Breezly and the Goofy Guards with 23 each). The only two that differ are Magilla and Peter.
I notice that you refer to Yippee, Yappee & Yahooey as "The Goofy Guards." Is Goofy Guards another name for the cartoons that I just never heard about? Yahooey, by the way, was voiced by Daws Butler.

[Barb Herholzer]

I notice that you refer to Yippee, Yappee & Yahooey as "The Goofy Guards." Is Goofy Guards another name for the cartoons that I just never heard about? Yahooey, by the way, was voiced by Daws Butler.
I think that's how they were referred to on the Peter Potamus curtain call. I might be wrong, it's been a while since I've heard it.

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Barb is right. They are called "The Goofy Guards" on the Curtain Calls.

[Daws Butler Jr.]

Yahooey, by the way, was voiced by Daws Butler.

...doing his Jerry Lewis impression, which he also did for one of the funniest Quick Draw cartoons of the whole series, "Yippee Coyote".

[Barb Herholzer]

...doing his Jerry Lewis impression, which he also did for one of the funniest Quick Draw cartoons of the whole series, "Yippee Coyote".
...which I hope we'll still get to see on DVD this year...;)

[Howard Fein]

I notice that you refer to Yippee, Yappee & Yahooey as "The Goofy Guards." Is Goofy Guards another name for the cartoons that I just never heard about? Yahooey, by the way, was voiced by Daws Butler.

Yes, the Goofy Guards is a collective name for Yippee, Yappee, and Yahooey But since their names are a nuisance to type, it's much easier to refer to them as the Goofy Guards. The title cards for their episodes does present them as Yippee, Yappee, and Yahooey rather than as the Goofy Guards.

After having been the lead voice (along with Don Messick) in H-B cartoons from the studio's 1958 opening through 1962- and having originated virtually all of the first generation of H-B stars- Daws Butler's roles tailed off somewhat. From 1964 through 1966 he voiced Peter, Yahooey and incidental voices in their series, as well as occasional guest voices in Gorilla, Mushmouse, Ricochet and FLINSTONES episodes. Butler also continued to voice Loopy de Loop for the remainder of that character's career through 1964 or '65. He was virtually absent from the 1965-66 ATOM ANT/SECRET SQUIRREL franchise; his next regular H-B series was 1966's extremely obscure SPACE KIDETTES.

Butler did remain busy at Walter Lantz, and Jay Ward cereal commercials, during that time.