Dale Hale on Lantz

[cbrubaker]

Does anyone have a complete list of Lantz cartunes where Dale Hale was the writer?

So far, I got these

Hi-Rise Wise Guys
Gooney's Goofy Landing
Airlift a-la Carte

[doctoon]

He also wrote WOODY'S MAGIC TOUCH (1971), throwing in a hippie to give the story a modern feel.

[Sogturtle]

Charles~

I know of nine cartoons Dale Hale wrote at Lantz...

[cbrubaker]

I asked Dale Hale himself. He said he didn't keep track of cartoons he worked on, but thinks he worked on at least 35 Lantz toons. Of course, he may also included cartoons where he wasn't credited.

[Sogturtle]

I asked Dale Hale himself. He said he didn't keep track of cartoons he worked on, but thinks he worked on at least 35 Lantz toons. Of course, he may also included cartoons where he wasn't credited.

Charles~

...And THAT'S WHY I said that "I know of nine cartoons" that he worked on there... I've always had full credits for all of the last years of the Lantz studio, and indeed Dale is only CREDITED:cool: on those nine cartoons...

The MAIN storyman for the last years of the studio was former Warner writer Cal Howard, and HIS name appears on the bulk of the toons made from 1968 till the very end. Hale's name and those of Don Christensen, Tony Benedict and the great Sid Marcus turn up on a minority of those in place of Howard's....

[cbrubaker]

Arn't the ones with Marcus listed as a writer are actually leftovers from before Sid Marcus left Lantz? At least that's what I heard.

[Sogturtle]

Arn't the ones with Marcus listed as a writer are actually leftovers from before Sid Marcus left Lantz? At least that's what I heard.

Charles~

[I wrote this night-before-last, my internet access is messed up]

After Sid Marcus (and Art Davis) left in the mid-Sixties there were two cartoons ("Teeny Weeny Meany" and "Operation Shanghai") released by Lantz in late 1966 and VERY early 1967 that show Sid as director (yet they were animated by Paul J. Smith's two animators separately). Then immediately after that during the remainder of 1967 Marcus's name does indeed turn up as writer on three additional toons ("The Nautical Nut", "Hot Time On Ice", "Chilly And The Woodchopper")... Undoubtedly these were the cartoons left from just as Sid exited Lantz' studio.

But then there is an enormous two and half year gap before any more Marcus-penned stories turn up... In mid-1970 (AFTER the demise of the Grantray-Lawrence studio where he'd been working) suddenly Sid's name crops again as writer at Lantz, and continues to pop up there sporadically over the next two years. The sum-total of his Lantz stories in the early 1970's totals only five, while in that same period, Don Christensen had three to his credit, Dale Hale had his nine, Dalton Sandifer only two, and Cal Howard with a whopping seventeen!!
[These totals represent the writers work from the very early 1970's, none included from the Sixties].

[cbrubaker]

Okay.

Oh, was it common for people to work in two different studios? Marcus also showed up as a writer on DFE cartoons the same time those Lantz cartunes were being released (how far apart was Lantz Studio and DFE?) Art Davis also worked at DFE and Hanna-Barbera at the same time too (I saw "Artie Davis" listed in "Josie and the Pussycat")


("The Nautical Nut", "Hot Time On Ice", "Chilly And The Woodpecker")...

P.S., was "Chilly and the Woodpecker" and un-produced crossover of Woody and Chilly? ;) I heard of "Chilly and the WoodCHOPPER", though.

[Sogturtle]

Okay.

Oh, was it common for people to work in two different studios? Marcus also showed up as a writer on DFE cartoons the same time those Lantz cartunes were being released (how far apart was Lantz Studio and DFE?) Art Davis also worked at DFE and Hanna-Barbera at the same time too (I saw "Artie Davis" listed in "Josie and the Pussycat")

P.S., was "Chilly and the Woodpecker" and un-produced crossover of Woody and Chilly? ;) I heard of "Chilly and the WoodCHOPPER", though.

We're talking my having a SERIOUS typo here Charles!!!:D (I'll fix it, whine, whine, whimper, whimper:p ...).

Annnnnd it appears that there some was a fair amount of a backlog, either of cartoons or of finished stories at Lantz... Marcus left Lantz in '65 for Sam Singer's place, but yet as mentioned, his name is still attached to several things in 1967 (while he was at Grantray-Lawrence). And it's even more apparent when we supposedly find Cal Howard writing BOTH the final couple of years of Warner Bros. cartoons simultaneously with his Lantz cartoons. Buuuuuut then in Spring 1970 is when his name abruptly disappeared from the Lantz cartoons and was replaced by Hale, Christensen, Marcus and Benedict. Soooooo that would IMPLY that those Lantz cartoons were actually written while Howard was busy at Warner Bros.-Seven Arts... And when Warners closed he came back and finished up at Lantz, and that would've taken away a need for Sid Marcus or the others there... [And besides, ever since the car painting incident thirty-five years before, I'm sure Howard would've been nervous working around Marcus!!:D :p :D ]

And as for our Artie Davis... By mid-1968 he was looking for employment, that's when he typed up his resume! And yeah, he was definitely at DePatie-Freleng in 1969, though HB's"Josie And The Pussycats" debuted in Sept. 1970, so that would LIKELY mean that Artie had gone and toiled on that some during the Spring of 1970.

[cbrubaker]

We're talking my having a SERIOUS typo here Charles!!!:D (I'll fix it, whine, whine, whimper, whimper:p ...).

Annnnnd it appears that there some was a fair amount of a backlog, either of cartoons or of finished stories at Lantz... Marcus left Lantz in '65 for Sam Singer's place, but yet as mentioned, his name is still attached to several things in 1967 (while he was at Grantray-Lawrence). And it's even more apparent when we supposedly find Cal Howard writing BOTH the final couple of years of Warner Bros. cartoons simultaneously with his Lantz cartoons. Buuuuuut then in Spring 1970 is when his name abruptly disappeared from the Lantz cartoons and was replaced by Hale, Christensen, Marcus and Benedict. Soooooo that would IMPLY that those Lantz cartoons were actually written while Howard was busy at Warner Bros.-Seven Arts... And when Warners closed he came back and finished up at Lantz, and that would've taken away a need for Sid Marcus or the others there... [And besides, ever since the car painting incident thirty-five years before, I'm sure Howard would've been nervous working around Marcus!!:D :p :D ]

And as for our Artie Davis... By mid-1968 he was looking for employment, that's when he typed up his resume! And yeah, he was definitely at DePatie-Freleng in 1969, though HB's"Josie And The Pussycats" debuted in Sept. 1970, so that would LIKELY mean that Artie had gone and toiled on that some during the Spring of 1970.
Huh. What was up with the "Car painting" incident involving Cal Howard and Sid Marcus?

Apparently, Lantz liked people at DFE. When he got Marcus, Dale Hale, and Benedict, they were at DFE (Don Christensen I believe was at Filmation)

[Sogturtle]

Huh. What was up with the "Car painting" incident involving Cal Howard and Sid Marcus?

Apparently, Lantz liked people at DFE. When he got Marcus, Dale Hale, and Benedict, they were at DFE (Don Christensen I believe was at Filmation)

Charles~

Cal Howard was a character (and then some) in his young days... On one occasion in the mid-1930's everyone had noted that Sid's great love was his beautiful new car... One day after observing Marcus ever-so-carefully parking his vehicle at the curb in front of the studio Cal decided to go out for lunch that day... While at "lunch" he stopped off and bought cans of water-soluble paint, annnnnd while Sid was back toiling in the studio Cal was out front gleefully giving the new car just what every new card needs... a nice new BRIGHT paint job!!!:p Come quittin' time and out comes ol' Sid, searching up and down the street, high and low for HIS car... :D All while Cal Howard (and friends) are busting a gut laughing at the joke itself and Sid's great confusion, and horror when he found HIS car...