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guy incognito
07-08-2005, 09:11 PM
Which of these bullring classics takes top honors?

Sogturtle
07-08-2005, 09:33 PM
Guy Incognito~

Awwwww you left out "Mexican Joyride":( :( :daffy: ...
With it omitted then it's gotta be "Bully For Bugs" (though "Senor Droopy" is a great toon as well)

lunytunzfan
07-08-2005, 09:35 PM
You left one off the list. My favorite bullfighting cartoon "Mexican Joyride"

Cartman
07-08-2005, 09:49 PM
Guy Incognito~

Awwwww you left out "Mexican Joyride":( :( :daffy: ...
With it omitted then it's gotta be "Bully For Bugs" (though "Senor Droopy" is a great toon as well)

Guy Incognito also omitted FOR WHOM THE BULLS TOIL, EL TERRIBLE TOREADOR, and BULLONEY. Out of all those options, I decided to go with SENOR DROOPY.:wolfie: :droopy:

UncleJunior
07-08-2005, 10:11 PM
Bully for Bugs for me.

Probably one of Jones' best Bugs shorts.

mmtper
07-08-2005, 10:33 PM
I also thought of Mexican Joyride and it is my favorite bullfighting toon. It's also my favorite Arthur Davis toon (alongside Bowery Bugs). Of what's there, I decided to go with Ferdinand because it's beautifully drawn and has amusing caricatures of the Disney staff, including Unca Walt himself.:minnie:

Cartman
07-08-2005, 11:09 PM
Of what's there, I decided to go with Ferdinand because it's beautifully drawn and has amusing caricatures of the Disney staff, including Unca Walt himself.:minnie:
That would have been the bullfighter himself.

mmtper
07-09-2005, 12:02 AM
That would have been the bullfighter himself.

Yes indeed. And now that I think more about it, I believe the announcer in Senor Droopy is a caricature of Tex Avery.

Cdawg
07-09-2005, 12:21 AM
It's gotta be "Bully For Bugs" for me. I laugh so loud when I watch this that people stare at me as if I were crazy! I like some of the others too! - Just picked up Ferdinand at my favorite media resale store.

Jaime_Weinman
07-09-2005, 12:24 AM
I'm picking "Bully For Bugs," but from that list, you can see why Eddie Selzer didn't want any cartoons about bullfights -- by 1953 it really was the most played-out, overused subject for a cartoon. The genius of Jones and Maltese in that cartoon, really, was to take a really old-hat subject and put a fresh spin on it.

J Lee
07-09-2005, 12:31 AM
Gotta argee with the above posters -- "Mexican Joyride" is the best cartoon (and also probably the one that somehow set Eddie Seltzer's teeth on edge in the first place). But since it's not on the list, I'll go with Eddie's other least-favorite Bullfighting toon, "Bully for Bugs".

RingDestruction
07-09-2005, 01:21 AM
Bully For Bugs gets my vote, with or without Mexican Joyride.

JDWeil
07-09-2005, 05:08 AM
You left out For whom the Bull Toils (Disney), and Mexican Joyride (WB), and Little Pancho Vanilla (WB). All of these have bullfight sequences in them.

Lee Glover
07-09-2005, 10:36 AM
Considering my favourite, Mexican Joyride, isn't on the list, I'll have to vote for my second favourite, Bully For Bugs.

guy incognito
07-09-2005, 12:23 PM
Ah, "Mexican Joyride". I knew--just knew--that there was one I was forgetting, and darned if that didn't turn out to be it. An egregious omission, too...a thousand pardons, fellow GACers! :shame:

Daffysleftfoot
07-09-2005, 12:37 PM
I believe Speedy Gonzales had a cartoon with a similar concept called Mexican Cat Dance (by Friz Freleng c. 1963). However, in that one Speedy fought Sylvester like a bull so it might not quite qualify for the above poll.

Meh, I still voted for Bully For Bugs. :bugs2:

Bartman
07-09-2005, 12:45 PM
Well, since "Mexican Joyride" wasn't on the list to choose, I went with my 2nd favorite - "Senor Droopy", an Avery classic.:droopy:

You are also missing the 1952 Heckle & Jeckle short "Bullfighting The Bull" from your list.

ohmahaaha
07-09-2005, 02:35 PM
"Bully For Bugs" all the way; funny, funny cartoon. I would say something about Eddie Selzer but I don't want to be banned from the forum. :D

janiepooh34
07-11-2005, 12:10 AM
I "bucked" the trend! My vote is for "The Timid Toreador."

TnAdct1
07-11-2005, 12:59 AM
I voted for "Bully for Bugs", thanks to the greatness that is the "Mexican Slap Dance" scene (aka the scene where Bugs, wearing a sombraro, dances towards the bull and slaps him).

Miss Marnie
07-11-2005, 01:29 AM
Aw, man, you left off Mexican Joyride. While I do love Bully For Bugs and Senor Droopy, Mexican Joyride is probably the most underrated (possibly because Arthur Davis isn't as revered as Chuck Jones, Text Avery, Bob Clampett, and Friz Freleng--and to a lesser extent Robert McKimson)

grim_tales
07-11-2005, 06:33 AM
I voted for Bully For Bugs :D

"What a nin-cow-poop!" CLASSIC :) Very funny cartoon.

Sogturtle
07-11-2005, 07:58 AM
...(possibly because Arthur Davis isn't as revered as Chuck Jones, Text Avery, Bob Clampett, and Friz Freleng--and to a lesser extent Robert McKimson)

True Miss Marnie, but we're a-workin' on it!!! :D ;)

Bandini
07-11-2005, 11:45 AM
There is another good one that you forgot, although the title is the same as the Fleischer Popeye cartoon. Bulldozing The Bull is also a 1951 Heckle and Jeckle cartoon and I'm writing that one in as my vote.

Chow Hound
07-11-2005, 01:27 PM
Bully For Bugs is my favorite, followed by For whom the Bulls Toil.

Tom Stathes
07-11-2005, 01:52 PM
Hey, what, no silent classics?

Puss In Boots (Disney)
Alice the Toreador (Disney)
Mixing in Mexico (Mutt & Jeff)

Hah, thank ya very much!:cool:
-Tom

Vorral
07-12-2005, 05:11 AM
Bully for Bugs got my vote for the look on the bull's face when he realized that he could shoot bullets out of his horns. To this day, 27 after first watching the cartoon, it still makes me laugh. And that's a hard thing to do without gas...

David Gerstein
07-12-2005, 10:12 AM
I do love BULLY FOR BUGS, but my actual favorite bullfight cartoon is a rabbit cartoon that wasn't on the list: Oswald's CHILLY CON CARMEN!

Bugs Bunny
07-12-2005, 10:43 AM
Bully For Bugs is one of my favorites while another short didn't get mentioned
was 1965 Bully For Pink Directed By Hawley Pratt. Most of the shorts gags seems simlilar to Bully for Bugs.

frogboxer
07-12-2005, 01:46 PM
I'll fall in behind just about everyone else and vote for "Bully for Bugs" as well.

Larry T
07-12-2005, 03:47 PM
Yeah, I want to vote for "Mexican Joyride". That great scene animated by Basil Davidovich where Daffy argues with the bull ("He is!".... "Heeee's NOT!"... "IS"...."NOT!!" ) is only dialogue, but hilarious.

So I'll have to go with the only other choice, "Bully For Bugs". It's a great satisfying cartoon to see Bugs get walloped in the can by the bull at the beginning- then slowly get revenge for the rest of it.

Hey, what cartoon is it where there's a sign on the arena at the beginning which states, "Bullfight today- Bullburgers Tonight" ? Is that Hollywood Matador?

Geezil
07-12-2005, 03:50 PM
"The Hollywood Matador"! (Yeah, that vote was mine.)

:woody: "Woody Woodpecker -- For Whom the Bulls Toil"!! :woody:

On the other hand, what's everyone got against "Bulldozing the Bull"? Whenever a Fleischer character was involved, at least, you could be certain he'd been out shopping for kosher beef. :D

mmtper
08-02-2005, 12:31 AM
I'm very very sorry to break a rule but this is the best thread to post this, I think (and sadly, there are days, even weeks when I cannot post or even read the websites. I have friends and family who want me to pay attention to them and not cartoons. Can you imagine?) Anyway, this is musical trivia that I'm not aware that anyone else noticed:

At the end of Bully for Bugs, the bull flies over a powder keg, gets "blowed up real good", and slams headfirst into the wall of the arena, his battered rear end facing out towards the camera. Bugs drapes it with a cape that reads "THE END". This is a bit low and kind of unusual for a Chuck Jones gag, I don't remember him "mooning the audience" before, unlike Disney and Avery. During this final "set piece" Carl Stalling stops playing Mexican music and strikes up a classical piece by Richard Wagner the overture to the opera "Rienzi"
(pronounced reee-EHN-zee). There seems to be no logical reason for this music, but if you remember that Stalling sometimes used the verbal titles of songs as his cue (like if a girl wearing red shows up, he'll start playing "The Lady in Red"), it can make sense as an good/bad pun:

RI-EN-ZI sounds like "REAR END, SEE?"!:rolleyes: ....:rolleyes: ....ahem:rolleyes: !

Geezil
08-02-2005, 08:30 AM
At the end of Bully for Bugs, the bull flies over a powder keg, gets "blowed up real good", and slams headfirst into the wall of the arena, his battered rear end facing out towards the camera. Bugs drapes it with a cape that reads "THE END". This is a bit low and kind of unusual for a Chuck Jones gag, I don't remember him "mooning the audience" before, unlike Disney and Avery. During this final "set piece" Carl Stalling stops playing Mexican music and strikes up a classical piece by Richard Wagner the overture to the opera "Rienzi"
(pronounced reee-EHN-zee). There seems to be no logical reason for this music, but if you remember that Stalling sometimes used the verbal titles of songs as his cue (like if a girl wearing red shows up, he'll start playing "The Lady in Red"), it can make sense as an good/bad pun:

RI-EN-ZI sounds like "REAR END, SEE?"!:rolleyes: ....:rolleyes: ....ahem:rolleyes: !

Yeah, I follow you. It looks like Stalling was just (clears throat loudly) getting a little behind in his work.

(You may all feel free to groan loudly now.) :shame:

angilbas
08-03-2005, 04:52 AM
Throwing the Bull (Rasinski, 1946) was an 'opera' in which :mighty: fought a horned opponent. There was a female point in the triangle ... and a happy butcher at the end.

But my vote went to Bully for Bugs.


-Tony

Wayne's World
08-04-2005, 02:43 AM
Hi! I have to go with "Bully for Bugs". I think my favorite scene is where Bugs slaps the bulls face and tweaks its nose.