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Tim Lones
05-10-2005, 03:40 AM
I happened to catch this cartoon on Boomerang's LOONEY TUNES late Sunday Night. I think it was Jones' best use of the slowdown animation techniques. Also I thought it was the best "Sniffles" Cartoon (for some there may not be such a thing) I really enjoy Holiday Themed TV shows and cartoons..Also thought it was cool for them to actually use KFWB Radio in the storyline as it was owned by Warners at the time.

Duck Dodgers
05-10-2005, 07:25 AM
I happened to catch this cartoon on Boomerang's LOONEY TUNES late Sunday Night. I think it was Jones' best use of the slowdown animation techniques. Also I thought it was the best "Sniffles" Cartoon (for some there may not be such a thing) I really enjoy Holiday Themed TV shows and cartoons..Also thought it was cool for them to actually use KFWB Radio in the storyline as it was owned by Warners at the time.

i think this cartoon is sniffle's best one in the series,but my favorite is still lost and foundling.this one is from 1944 at a time in which jones tried to tramute sniffles character from a disney/harman-ising like character to a wb-character

frizfrelengfan
05-10-2005, 08:49 AM
My wife adores that cartoon.

Ray Pointer
05-10-2005, 10:39 PM
[QUOTE=Tim Lones]I happened to catch this cartoon on Boomerang's LOONEY TUNES late Sunday Night. I think it was Jones' best use of the slowdown animation techniques.

BEDTIME FOR SNIFFLES is something of a forgotten classic. But what's this "slowdown animation technique?" I've been in the biz for 38 years, and this is a term I've never heard of. What is the source for this?

Jack
05-10-2005, 10:56 PM
I think he means that it was Jones' best cartoon from his Disneyesque period, where the pace was slower...

musicradio77
05-10-2005, 11:10 PM
I happened to catch this cartoon on Boomerang's LOONEY TUNES late Sunday Night. I think it was Jones' best use of the slowdown animation techniques. Also I thought it was the best "Sniffles" Cartoon (for some there may not be such a thing) I really enjoy Holiday Themed TV shows and cartoons..Also thought it was cool for them to actually use KFWB Radio in the storyline as it was owned by Warners at the time.

I love that cartoon, it was Chuck Jones' best loved cartoon ever made especially for the Christmas holiday. I know that you're talking about KFWB. To get this off-topic. KFWB was a radio station where the station went top 40 in 1958 and then it became an all-news station back in 1968. I know that you were talking about KFWB in the cartoon. Interesting.:) Here's the history:

On March 25, 1925, KFWB was put on the air with 250 watts of power by Sam Warner, founder of Warner Brothers Studio. Among the many Hollywood stars who launched their careers on KFWB were Ronald Reagan, Roy Rogers, Bing Crosby, Alan Ladd, and Burns and Allen.

In the 1930s, KFWB became the first station to cover the Hollywood Santa Claus Lane Parade and pioneered coverage of the Tournament of Roses Parade and The New Year's Day Rose Bowl Game.

In 1958, KFWB producer Chuck Blore invented the Top 40 format, and "Channel 98 Color Radio" was born. KFWB became one of the nation's first Top 40 radio stations, and it quickly shot to the number one spot in Southern California radio ratings.

Blore's DJ's were known as the "Seven Swinging Gentlemen" and over the years included Sam Riddle, Wink Martindale, Gary Owens, Gene Weed, and Lohman & Barkley. The format was copied at stations around the country.

In 1966, Westinghouse purchased KFWB, and it became L.A.'s first ALL-NEWS radio station on March 11th, 1968. People wondered how on Earth a radio station could come up with enough news to fill the entire broadcast day! A study showed the average commute time in LA was 22 minutes, giving birth to the famous slogan "You Give Us 22 Minutes, We'll Give You The World."

This is what KFWB was all about.

Tim Lones
05-11-2005, 09:51 AM
Ray:

While The entire pace of the film was slower, by "slowdown technique" I was specifically referring to the point where Sniffles finally lets sleep overtake him and he "floats" into bed. Not unlike (in my mind anyway) Good Night Elmer where the entire film is like that and is hard to watch..Am speaking strictly as a fan not as a film expert/historian so I might have the ideas/techniques confused

Tim Lones
05-11-2005, 09:53 AM
I love that cartoon, it was Chuck Jones' best loved cartoon ever made especially for the Christmas holiday. I know that you're talking about KFWB. To get this off-topic. KFWB was a radio station where the station went top 40 in 1958 and then it became an all-news station back in 1968. I know that you were talking about KFWB in the cartoon. Interesting.:) Here's the history:

On March 25, 1925, KFWB was put on the air with 250 watts of power by Sam Warner, founder of Warner Brothers Studio. Among the many Hollywood stars who launched their careers on KFWB were Ronald Reagan, Roy Rogers, Bing Crosby, Alan Ladd, and Burns and Allen.

In the 1930s, KFWB became the first station to cover the Hollywood Santa Claus Lane Parade and pioneered coverage of the Tournament of Roses Parade and The New Year's Day Rose Bowl Game.

In 1958, KFWB producer Chuck Blore invented the Top 40 format, and "Channel 98 Color Radio" was born. KFWB became one of the nation's first Top 40 radio stations, and it quickly shot to the number one spot in Southern California radio ratings.

Blore's DJ's were known as the "Seven Swinging Gentlemen" and over the years included Sam Riddle, Wink Martindale, Gary Owens, Gene Weed, and Lohman & Barkley. The format was copied at stations around the country.

In 1966, Westinghouse purchased KFWB, and it became L.A.'s first ALL-NEWS radio station on March 11th, 1968. People wondered how on Earth a radio station could come up with enough news to fill the entire broadcast day! A study showed the average commute time in LA was 22 minutes, giving birth to the famous slogan "You Give Us 22 Minutes, We'll Give You The World."

This is what KFWB was all about.


Good Info but I was pretty much aware of KFWB and what it was but thanks

Westighouse premiered all news radio in 1965 at 1010 WINS New York and 1060 KYW Philadelphia

Cartman
05-11-2005, 10:21 AM
As the previous posters had mentioned, BEDTIME FOR SNIFFLES is a wonderful cartoon. I love the animation and the storyline of Sniffles trying to stay up long enough to meet Santa.

rkish
05-11-2005, 10:42 AM
Granted...some feel that this was Jones's "weaker" period of animation. I totally disagree, as he produced some wonderful classics during this period, specifically "Bedtime for Sniffles". I was very happy to see that there was an entire side/theme dedicated to the "Sniffles" cartoons on the GAOLT laserdiscs (Volume 4 - Side 9).

musicradio77
05-11-2005, 08:55 PM
Good Info but I was pretty much aware of KFWB and what it was but thanks

Westighouse premiered all news radio in 1965 at 1010 WINS New York and 1060 KYW Philadelphia

I know what you're saying, Group "W" was the company that owns 1010 WINS and 1060 KYW. Both of these stations are now owned by Infinity Broadcasting. KFWB doesn't. I forgot to tell you. Back on March 25th was the 80th anniversary of the launch of KFWB.

Ray Pointer
05-12-2005, 01:53 AM
Ray:

While The entire pace of the film was slower, by "slowdown technique" I was specifically referring to the point where Sniffles finally lets sleep overtake him and he "floats" into bed. Not unlike (in my mind anyway) Good Night Elmer where the entire film is like that and is hard to watch..Am speaking strictly as a fan not as a film expert/historian so I might have the ideas/techniques confused

Understand my reason for focusing on this use of a non-existant term was in the interest of clarity and enlightenment for all who read these threads. We must be clear in our use of language and terminology. That is the best way for us to communicate and learn.

In actuallity, a "slowdown" is a purposeful slowing of production flow by a factory or studio. When the Fleischer Strike was brewing in 1937, the inbetweeners were pushed from 50 to 75 drawings per day because of the increased demands for POPEYE cartoons by Paramount. The result was a "slowdown" by the staff as a protest. They produced 40, then 30 then 25 drawings per day.

Sogturtle
05-14-2005, 03:17 PM
I know what you're saying, Group "W" was the company that owns 1010 WINS and 1060 KYW. Both of these stations are now owned by Infinity Broadcasting. KFWB doesn't. I forgot to tell you. Back on March 25th was the 80th anniversary of the launch of KFWB.

Musicaradio77~

Yes March did mark KFWB's 80th Annivesary:) . Did you know that it was an existent station (KWBC) that the Warners purchased, and their father (Ben) suggested the call letters be changed to KFWB to stand for "Keep fighting, Warner Brothers" ?? Pity that in March they didn't have good ol' Leon Zuardo on hand again to sing live and announce like back in 1925!!! :D:daffy: (Purportedly he was a pretty good singer and comic...:cool:, despite whining complaints by his family of his jokes being "corny".)

JDWeil
05-15-2005, 04:21 AM
In 1940 Warner Bros. actually owned two radio stations in California. One was KFWB the 50,000 watter in LA. and the other was KLS a 5,000 watter in Oakland. KFWB is still around, but whatever became of KLS?

Duck Dodgers
05-15-2005, 06:05 AM
Musicaradio77~

Yes March did mark KFWB's 80th Annivesary:) . Did you know that it was an existent station (KWBC) that the Warners purchased, and their father (Ben) suggested the call letters be changed to KFWB to stand for "Keep fighting, Warner Brothers" ?? Pity that in March they didn't have good ol' Leon Zuardo on hand again to sing live and announce like back in 1925!!! :D:daffy: (Purportedly he was a pretty good singer and comic...:cool:, despite whining complaints by his family of his jokes being "corny".)

i'm sure happy soggie started to frequent this forum as much as in the toon zone years,he's wonderful how many things he knows and he can share with us


what happened to steve carras?he,with soggie and ,in a little way ,me,was one of the authorities about voice actors in cartoons and i miss him