Yosemite Sam or Elmer Fudd

[gilligan fanati]

who is a better nemises for Bugs

[J. B. Warner]

I gotta agree with Friz Freleng. Elmer Fudd is funny, but he's too easy to beat. Yosemite Sam is a lot more threatening and makes for a more interesting antagonist.

[LooneyTuneLover]

I dont know its hard to say but Elmer made me laugh alittle more then Sam but, its just by alittle sam makes be laugh too.:)

[laugh4me]

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Sure, Sam is more threatening, but neither one is a serious challenge for Bugs.
:bugs2:

I voted for :befuddled Elmer simple because so many of my favorite cartoons involve the pairing of Bugs and Elmer.

[Chow Hound]

I love Sam's fiery temper. The Sam and Bugs match-ups are some of my favorite Bugs cartoons.:ysam::bugs2:

[Yosemite682]

Elmer/Bugs shorts are really good (Particulary the hunting trilogy), but Yosemite Sam is so much more versatlie and who I consider one of the best LT/MM characters. (my screen name sort of gives that away)

-Yosemite682
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[MF TOON]

Sam is too formulaic and one-dimensional in his personality.

He's the generic gun toting loud mouth hot head. He fits very specific roles.


Elmer has much more depth to him and he's even able to hold his own in starring shorts such as "Good Night Elmer Fudd".

He could essetially be placed in any cartoon as either a starring or supporting character and add diversity to that short, whereas Sam could not. His film pairings are key.

Elmer also has more history behind his character and a longer career which probably allowed for directors to further develop and refine his traits.

I guess it all depends on the cartoon and crew.

Yosemite Sam is a great character and has starred in many classic roles, but generally speaking, I'd much prefer to watch Elmer on screen. His humor and expressions are more subtle. I'd say he's the more sophisticated character.

[Daff Doc]

I went with Sam. Freling really didn't like to work with human characters much but said Sam was an exception because he was more of an abstract cartoon being instead of a man. Heck Friz and Sam were two redheads one in the same. I feel Yosemite Sam was one of the best characters ever created in all animation. There's something about bad tempers which appeal to us. But I think Elmer can be very funny too. There's another Elmer I like too, the tough little guy character Buster Keaton plays.:ysam: :donald:

[dnestorjr]

I am going with Elmer, I Just like the Elmer/Bugs Chemistry.

[GeorgeC]

How can you choose betweent these two guys?!?! :ysam: :befuddled


They're both loveable dopes! :bugs2:


Elmer's probably the first and longest-running dopey LT character... :befuddled He's not quite :goof: , but there is sort of a loveable charm to a fellow that could arguably be construed as the first cartoon spokesman for the NRA! :D

As for :ysam: , like :donald: , he proves there's more to life than bland characters like :mickey: and seemingly-perfect critters like :bugs2: !

Ya just gotta love a cartoon character with a volcanic temper! :D

[Dan Porceddu]

It looks like my vote in the poll broke the 11-11 tie, giving the (current) majority to good old Elmer Fudd. While I enjoy both characters, Elmer is more versatile. There's only so much you can do with Yosemite Sam. :ysam:

[Duck Dodgers]

i love elmer,but sam is a better nemesis for bugs

[Daffyfan2004]

That's a toughie. They're both great characters. I guess I'll say Elmer because most of my favorites involved him including the hunting trilogy, "Robot Rabbit" and "Hare Do."

[Duck Dodgers]

That's a toughie. They're both great characters. I guess I'll say Elmer because most of my favorites involved him including the hunting trilogy, "Robot Rabbit" and "Hare Do."

of course,and such classics as the big snooze,the old grey hare....

[Thad]

Sam is too formulaic and one-dimensional in his personality.

He's the generic gun toting loud mouth hot head. He fits very specific roles.


Elmer has much more depth to him and he's even able to hold his own in starring shorts such as "Good Night Elmer Fudd".

He could essetially be placed in any cartoon as either a starring or supporting character and add diversity to that short, whereas Sam could not. His film pairings are key.

Elmer also has more history behind his character and a longer career which probably allowed for directors to further develop and refine his traits.

I guess it all depends on the cartoon and crew.

Yosemite Sam is a great character and has starred in many classic roles, but generally speaking, I'd much prefer to watch Elmer on screen. His humor and expressions are more subtle. I'd say he's the more sophisticated character.

You summed up what I think of Yosemite Sam, Oliver. Thanks!

Don't get me wrong, I really like the character a lot ("Buccaneer Bunny", "High Diving Hare", "Ballot Box Bunny" are priceless), but Elmer Fudd was simply just funnier. Besides, he was the only character the Man of 1000 Voices couldn't do. :p:befuddled

-Thad

[mmtper]

I cannot and will not make up my mind. I just can't do it, I tell ya, I just can't!! I will say this about the "not versatile" Sam, though...for a guy who was just supposed to be a "one-shot" cowboy outlaw, he has appeared as a pirate, a Confederate soldier, a Hessian, a politician, a German flying ace, a Roman Centurian, an Arab, a medieval knight, the "Royal Duke of Yosemite", a space alien, and a devil. In a later cartoon he was a train conductor, and in the comic books he even appeared as a third world dictator! And howwww many roles has Elmer played.....?

[Ray Pointer]

Elmer is more of a sympathetic/pathetic character who is a little stupid. You almost feel sorry for him because the things that Bugs does to him are more deliberate. Even as a hunter, Elmer is not a threat since he is an inept hunter.:befuddled

Sam is much more fun, and has broader comedic possiblities since he causes much of Bug's retaliation, and brings much of what happens as a result upon himself. He also has the "Nepolian Complex," and accordingly compensates with an inflated ego and bombastic behavior. Because of this, he is aways a lot of fun.:ysam:

[frogboxer]

I voted for Elmer.

I agree that Elmer is more versatile - after all, Avery, Clampett, Jones, McKimson, and Freleng all directed Bugs-Elmer cartoons (a point that I am surprised to learn has not already been addressed on this thread). Sam was striclty Freleng's character and so we didn't see as wide a range of versatility with him.

[bugs]

I'll go for Elmer Fudd, i've never really enjoyed Yosemite Sam that much. :)

[Geezil]

By a nose: Elmer! :befuddled But I found this an incredibly tough call, too. What tipped the scales Out Here? Simply the fact that Bugs and Elmer, while adversaries, nonetheless have a clear underlying respect for each other. Sam, for Bugs, gets cut no such slack and will always be played purely for the fool.

Better several dimensions than just one.

[bjimba]

And howwww many roles has Elmer played.....?

While obviously Elmer had some trouble with the "hunter" typecasting, he also played...

a farmer
a hotel desk clerk
a miwwionaire
a Hollywood chef
a railroad surveyor
an amateur photgrapher
a suitor to a Southern belle
John Alden
a gold prospector
a symphony conductor
Daniel Cupid
a giant
and a cameo as a humble innkeeper.

Now, that's versatility!

[dnestorjr]

One can also count his roles as Egghead.

1937: Egghead Rides Again (Avery)--------Cowboy
1937: Little Red Walking Hood (Avery)-------The Hero
1938: Daffy Duck and Egghead (Avery)------------Hunter
1938: The Isle of Pingo Pongo (Avery)----------Ending Cuer??
1938: Cinderella Meets Fella (Avery)------------Prince Charming
1938: A-Lad-in Bagdad (Dalton & Howard)------------Aladin
1938: A Feud There Was (Avery)-----------Peace Keeper
1938: Johnny Smith and Poker-Huntas (Avery)------------Pilgram
1938: Count Me Out (Hardaway & Dalton)--------------Boxer
1939: Hamateur Night (Avery)----------Stage Peformer & Entire Audience
1939: A Day at the Zoo (Avery)------------Lion Food LOL :D
1939: Believe it or Else (Avery)------------He Get's Sawed in Half for Cryin' out loud

[mmtper]

While obviously Elmer had some trouble with the "hunter" typecasting, he also played...

a farmer
a hotel desk clerk
a miwwionaire
a Hollywood chef
a railroad surveyor
an amateur photgrapher
a suitor to a Southern belle
John Alden
a gold prospector
a symphony conductor
Daniel Cupid
a giant
and a cameo as a humble innkeeper.

Now, that's versatility !

Hmmmm, Okay, so Elmer's a man of many parts too. I tell ya I can't choose!
As it's been pointed out, Elmer's a dim, childlike man, at time's a little pathetic. (I'm not sure if the creators were totally aware of his capability for pathos). I think Jones & Avery & Clampett saw Elmer as a passive suburban milksop who has no business being out of his own backyard and tangling with ferocious wild creatures like ducks and bunnies. Freleng liked Elmer okay but often stated he found him too weak and wanted a more threatening adversary for Bugs. I've noticed that in the Freleng's, Elmer is a shade meaner & angrier and plots & plans & schemes more on how to get the rabbit. He brings hypnotism manuals, fishing rods ("put me down you miscweant!"), army surplus, and meat cleavers with him to get Bugs. Finally Freleng found Sam, more or less put Elmer aside, and the rest is history....