GAF Updates - 8/23/04

[Thad]

More stories have been added!:bugs1: :fox: :crow: :huey:

Left at the Post Box (http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/stories/wb/lt241001.html) by Walt Kelly! (thanks to David Gerstein for this one)

Henery Hawk (http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/stories/wb/lt740501.html) with Senator Leghorn, who talks like a certain rooster with the same last name...

The Fox & the Crow (http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/stories/columbia/rs4501.html) - Fox buys a sorcerer's hat and unwisely agrees to Crow's wish of getting double of anything 'Foxie' wishes for!

Oswald the Rabbit (http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/stories/lantz/nf12001.html) - 'Wimmin hater' Oswald suddenly becomes an irresistible ladies' man! (thanks to Jon Cooke for this one)

Goldi-Socks (http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/stories/famous/goldisocks.html) - Huey performs the story of "Goldilocks and the Three Bears" with thuh' Fox as his audience.


-Thad

[cbrubaker]

sounds cool.

I didn't know Walt Kelly, of "Pogo" fame, drew Bugs Bunny comics.

[David Gerstein]

I didn't know Walt Kelly, of "Pogo" fame, drew Bugs Bunny comics.He didn't draw many— just this one for LOONEY TUNES, and a few similarly short ones for Dell's 1942 CAMP COMICS.

[Thad]

Kelly did quite a bit of work for Disney (he did lots of Walt Disney's Comics & Stories covers), the most memorable, IMHO, being "The Wonderful Mis-Adventures of Donnochio".

-Thad

[Dave Bennett]

Thad --

I'd like to thank you for posting the scans of the great Golden Age stories you've so far selected! What an enjoyable way to spend a few minutes reacquainting myself with the great funny animal cartoon art of the past!

In regards to the Flippity and Flop story at http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/stories/columbia/fc820201.html
I might mention that its appearance in "The Fox and The Crow" was a reprint from Comic Cavalcade #47 of 1951 -- 12 years earlier!

I remember asking Jack Bradbury (when I didn't yet realize it was a reprint) how it was he did a story for his friend Jim Davis at that late date in his career (when he had primarily moved on to doing the Disney characters for Western) and he was mystified - not recalling it at all.

I'm wondering how often DC reprinted their funny animal stories from the past??

[Thad]

In regards to the Flippity and Flop story at http://funnies.goldenagecartoons.com/stories/columbia/fc820201.html
I might mention that its appearance in "The Fox and The Crow" was a reprint from Comic Cavalcade #47 of 1951 -- 12 years earlier!

I remember asking Jack Bradbury (when I didn't yet realize it was a reprint) how it was he did a story for his friend Jim Davis at that late date in his career (when he had primarily moved on to doing the Disney characters for Western) and he was mystified - not recalling it at all.
Thanks! I'll correct that in my next update! :fox::crow:

I never knew there were any Flippity & Flop stories in COMIC CAVALCADE, maybe I should start looking into them (though I have no interest in the non-Columbia character stories...).


-Thad

[Dave Bennett]

Thad --

I didn't really mention the reprint as something that needed to be acknowledged -- don't change your listing on my account! :)

I'm interested in why you consider Flippity and Flop Columbia characters. Were they animated at some point?? That would be a revelation to me! I always thought they were created for DC Comics at about the same time as The Hound and the Hare and Tito and His Burrito.

Dave :sylvester

[Thad]

I'm interested in why you consider Flippity and Flop Columbia characters. Were they animated at some point?? That would be a revelation to me! I always thought they were created for DC Comics at about the same time as The Hound and the Hare and Tito and His Burrito.
Yes they were in Columbia cartoons for five films, click here (http://columbia.goldenagecartoons.com/flippy/) for more information... Tito and Burrito were in a few cartoons as well ("Tito's Guitar", and "Picnic Panic").


-Thad

[Dave Bennett]

Holy Smokes!!

I can't believe I never knew that!! I just love it when I learn something new like this -- thank you!! I've always immensely enjoyed the Flippity and Flop comics, but never suspected they came from the world of animation!

Is there any possible way to see those shorts? -- are they available on any compilation tapes or discs?

Thanks again! :sylvester

[Sogturtle]

Holy Smokes!!

I can't believe I never knew that!! I just love it when I learn something new like this -- thank you!! I've always immensely enjoyed the Flippity and Flop comics, but never suspected they came from the world of animation!

Is there any possible way to see those shorts? -- are they available on any compilation tapes or discs?

Thanks again! :sylvester
Dave~

No, none of the Flippy shorts are available on any legitmate tapes or discs... However several people on this board and the Termite Terrace board would likely be willing to trade tapes of them with you...

And in an aside... As rare as these 5 toons are (and Columbia toons in general) nonetheless some of the art for them has survived... My ongoing researches have drawn me into tracking down and acquiring a little of the rare Flippy animation art!

[Dave Bennett]

Sogturtle ---

You are both accurate and prescient == I have already received a kind offer of dubs of the "Flippy and Flop" shorts from a member of this board and am looking forward to seeing what I've missed all this time!

And I would love to see scans of any "Flippy" animation art that you have acquired and would care to share with us! It's heartening to know that some of the Columbia art/cels still exist -- one of the 'holy grails' of my collecting life has always been a cel from a "Fox and Crow" short!!

Dave :sylvester

[Sogturtle]

Sogturtle ---

You are both accurate and prescient == I have already received a kind offer of dubs of the "Flippy and Flop" shorts from a member of this board and am looking forward to seeing what I've missed all this time!

And I would love to see scans of any "Flippy" animation art that you have acquired and would care to share with us! It's heartening to know that some of the Columbia art/cels still exist -- one of the 'holy grails' of my collecting life has always been a cel from a "Fox and Crow" short!!

Dave :sylvester

Dave~
Since my internal modem on this (my functional) computer died a while back I've been unable to scan and send anything of any size i.e. especially art. Hope to get that rectified sometime...

I have SOME of the mid-Forties Columbia model-sheets and drawings from a sprinkling of cartoons (oh yeah and a couple of things from Scrappy and Krazy Kat cartoons as well).

As far as your personal 'holy grail'... Not meaning to make you drool too much but I actually do have a "Fox and Crow" cel & background setup (I should say though that it's really just of the :fox: Fox being bombarded by coconuts). It's believed that there are only about three such F&C cel setups in existence... In the "How Weird and Perverse Category" I also have a Fox cel rescued by its inbetweener from the cel-washing department (though he was too late to save its paint from spiralling down the drain). And then there's that set of pencil model-sheets from the final Screen Gems re-design of the Fox and Crow.:eek:
But then again I've got a printed F & C publicity drawing that Jim Davis signed and hand colored for somebody not that long before he died.

[Dave Bennett]

Sog --

Could you please provide

••••• your home address
••••• exact location in the house where you keep your animation art
••••• times when you are not at home

:D :D :D

Seriously, I am in deep envy over your 'Fox and Crow' set up -- this is the first I have ever heard that anything exists from that series!! On what do you base your information that "there are only about three such F&C cel setups in existence"? I'm not questioning your information -- just curious if you arein touch with other owners of such an amazing animation relic!

. . . and if so, I will need

••••• their home addresses
••••• exact location in the homes where animation art is kept
••••• times when they are not at home

Dave
:sylvester

[Sogturtle]

Sog --

Could you please provide

••••• your home address
••••• exact location in the house where you keep your animation art
••••• times when you are not at home

:D :D :D

Seriously, I am in deep envy over your 'Fox and Crow' set up -- this is the first I have ever heard that anything exists from that series!! On what do you base your information that "there are only about three such F&C cel setups in existence"? I'm not questioning your information -- just curious if you are in touch with other owners of such an amazing animation relic!

. . . and if so, I will need

••••• their home addresses
••••• exact location in the homes where animation art is kept
••••• times when they are not at home

Dave
:sylvester

Dave~

I was going to post the address of the local police station which is basically just around the corner from my house BUT I figured that'd be a trifle cruel :D... As regards my source of info about the teeny handful of other F&C cel setups, my source was an email from a VERY longterm Eastern artgallery/dealer. Just going through my files I can't locate that email now to confirm it (meaning I'll have to ask him again). Iffffff my recollection is correct then I'll just ask him for names and addresses of the owners and then post it right here;) :p :D . However I found the one from him stating that he'd only ever personally run across three Flip The Frog drawings but that's utterly beside the point :p . (Now if I had Flip The Frog and Willie Whopper cels that would be something of great use to me...). I may well eventually get the paint restored on the Fox cel that was rescued from the cel-washing department (its ink is fully intact)... HEY wait a minute iffffff I did that, then that would give me two Fox cels which would necessitate my moving into a bunker!!!:eek: ;) :crow: :fox:

Keeping relevant to this forum I do have a pencil drawn page or two from a Mickey Mouse comic from the '70's drawn and signed by one Cal Howard (formerly of Warners, Screen Gems etc.)

[Dave Bennett]

Very funny post, Sog!

I know several great cel painters that could do a marvelous job on your Fox cel . . . but it's been so long since they've had any work in this digital age that their paints have probably all dried up!

I hope you can get your scanner working sometime -- I would LOVE to see your Fox and Crow model sheets . . . or anything you'd care to share with us from what sounds like an amazing collection of Columbia Animation treasures!

Cal Howard was an extremely funny man -- primarily a writer, but he could do some pretty funny sketches too! Are your penciled pages by him just breakdowns for a "real" cartoonist to follow? Have you ever determined whether your "drawn script" was ever published?

Dave :sylvester

[Sogturtle]

Very funny post, Sog!

I know several great cel painters that could do a marvelous job on your Fox cel . . . but it's been so long since they've had any work in this digital age that their paints have probably all dried up!

I hope you can get your scanner working sometime -- I would LOVE to see your Fox and Crow model sheets . . . or anything you'd care to share with us from what sounds like an amazing collection of Columbia Animation treasures!

Cal Howard was an extremely funny man -- primarily a writer, but he could do some pretty funny sketches too! Are your penciled pages by him just breakdowns for a "real" cartoonist to follow? Have you ever determined whether your "drawn script" was ever published?

Dave :sylvester
Dave~

Glad to provide at least a small giggle ;) to your long days....

I actually do need to get a couple of cels restored... The Fox one, and another from I BELIEVE the early 1940 Warners "Confederate Honey" (it looks to be of 'Crimsom O'Hairoil' herself, gotta re-watch it to sure) has Schlesinger's silk-screened signature. And ohmygosh, a cel (or the remains thereof) from the first Bugs and Tasmanian Devil toon (somebody cut the figures out:( making the paint buckle and flake. Obviously the work of a REAL flake!:D )... The one cel-painter I had contact with was Michelle Urbano (daughter of MGM's great early animator Carl Urbano). Had a couple of email addresses for her but they're kapoot now... Got a current email or phone or address for her? :cool: You can email me through here if you like...

Speaking of Columbia art and all... I also have a couple of pen and ink studies done of "Li'l Abner's" Daisy Mae, and they came from the estate of a certain prominent animator! Buuuuut he had worked uncredited at Columbia on the handful of "Li'l Abner" cartoons, and then started on another animated cartoon there based on a famed comic strip. This same gentleman also had a subsequent history working in vintage funny animal comics. But ifffff I told you who this secret Columbia 'Daisy Mae" animator was, neither you or anybody else would believe it! :eek: :eek: Life is strange, life is strange!

And on Cal Howard... Yeah the pencil pages are without a doubt his own rough breakdown drawings. Mickey and Goofy look a LITTLE fried:bosko: but quite recognizable. Before being a storyman Cal had actually been an artist at the early Disney studio. So with these early Seventies Mickey pages he'd come just about full circle.

[Dave Bennett]

Curiosity will likely eat me alive until you let us know the name of the 'funny animal comics' artist who worked on the Columbia Li'l Abner shorts and "another animated cartoon there based on a famed comic strip"! Surely it can't be a state secret at this late date!

Sorry, I don't know Michelle Urbano.

Dave :sylvester