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LooneyTuneLover
04-13-2005, 12:09 AM
I watched grey old hare on The Bob Clampett Show this Monday(I think thats the name of it) and I thought it was funny to see Elmer and Bugs old and young. if it was 1950 and Elmer Fudd traveled or what ever he did to 2080 how old would he be? at least 100 but how old is he in the beginning? 30 or 40 dont know anyway I enjoyed the cartoon see you guys around.

J. B. Warner
04-13-2005, 12:15 AM
Actually, the cartoon was released in 1944, and it flashes forward to the year 2000. Which makes such headlines as "Bing Crosby's Horse Still Hasn't Come In Yet" and "Smellovision Replaces Television" all the more ludicrous now.

bjimba
04-13-2005, 12:32 AM
You mean Bing Crosby's horse did finally come in?

I gotta start reading the papers...

Banned Bunny
04-13-2005, 12:41 AM
And they are still working on Smellevision http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1557733,00.html

JDWeil
04-13-2005, 04:18 AM
And they are still working on Smellevision http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1557733,00.html

Clampett was remarkably prescient on the subject of television in that short. Remember, this was 1944 during the war, and there were only 5000 TV sets in the country and only six television stations to feed them, so most people wouldn't have any idea of what television was. and here Clampett is talking about replacing them with a new format in the year 2000. Well, guess what? it's past 2000 and TV is being replaced by a new format, No, it's not smellovision, though there are some shows that do smell, but by the new hi-def format. That's a pretty good prediction.

Tom41
04-13-2005, 07:55 AM
I think it sounds odd now, when it flashes past 1950, 1960, 1970, 80, 90 - you'd think the TV networks would cut out some of it so it just goes straight to the year 2000! ;)

Geezil
04-13-2005, 10:07 AM
I think it sounds odd now, when it flashes past 1950, 1960, 1970, 80, 90 - you'd think the TV networks would cut out some of it so it just goes straight to the year 2000! ;)

Y' know, somehow I don't think this is the place to suggest "cutting some of it out" of any classic animated short. :mad:

Treadwell
04-13-2005, 10:36 AM
This cartoon has a unneccessarily choppy story structure. It starts with "present" Bugs & Elmer, flashes forward to their elder days, then from there flashes back to them as babies, and then back to the elder days, never returning to the "present". All over the place. And there is no closure for the "present" storyline.

Aw, who cares, it's fun. :daffy:

gilligan fanati
04-13-2005, 04:08 PM
I realy liked this one to. Elmer as a baby with a pop gun was real funny

LooneyTuneLover
04-13-2005, 04:14 PM
Actually, the cartoon was released in 1944, and it flashes forward to the year 2000. Which makes such headlines as "Bing Crosby's Horse Still Hasn't Come In Yet" and "Smellovision Replaces Television" all the more ludicrous now.

It went to 2000 well now that makes more sense

Boy Wonder
04-13-2005, 06:35 PM
This was a cool retrospective toon on, what would happen to Bugs and Elmer in the future? Seeing the pop gun, and those adorable baby Elmer and Bugs in the middle, and then... the kaboom in the end of the original version! Man, that cartoon brings good times, and good laughs for all.

LooneyTuneLover
04-13-2005, 08:17 PM
They Showed the "Kaboom" in the original version?

J. B. Warner
04-13-2005, 08:31 PM
They Showed the "Kaboom" in the original version?

No, but the original version's "That's All, Folks!" screen shakes when the off-screen explosion is heard. The dubbed (re-transfered) version uses the ending card from a different cartoon and therefore doesn't shake.

Billy
04-14-2005, 12:52 AM
There's actually two dubbed versions- one features the ruined ending you describe, while one keeps the original ending, and fades in the 'dubbed version' text over it after the explosion. It's been shown regularly in the UK for at least three years now.

frogboxer
04-14-2005, 01:35 AM
Actually, the title of this cartoon is the "Old Gray Hare," not "Gray Old Hare."

Tom41
04-14-2005, 07:41 AM
If you want to see the 'dubbed version' with the shaking end card, I've got a clip of it online. http://tomsonic.dyndns.org:90/censored_cartoons/looney_cuts/dynamite_end.avi

(needs DivX codec)

Barb Herholzer
04-14-2005, 09:46 AM
I think I read somewhere that this is the only Bugs Bunny cartoon that Bugs does not appear in as his regular self (unless you count the bulls-eye headshot at the opening). He is either Baby Bugs or Geezer Bugs, but not the version we all know so well.

Clampett was remarkably prescient on the subject of television in that short. Remember, this was 1944 during the war, and there were only 5000 TV sets in the country and only six television stations to feed them, so most people wouldn't have any idea of what television was. and here Clampett is talking about replacing them with a new format in the year 2000. Well, guess what? it's past 2000 and TV is being replaced by a new format, No, it's not smellovision, though there are some shows that do smell, but by the new hi-def format. That's a pretty good prediction.

Actually, even though it was still a few years away from becoming a mass medium, audiences at the time were well aware of television. TV experiments had been well under way since the 1920s and had been documented in the press and in magazines, and RCA made a big splash with a well publicized exhibit at the 1939 World's Fair. Of course the war curtailed production, but public anticipation for television was quite high.