Song Title

[Cartman]

Does anyone know the name of the tune that is played in Disney's THE CACTUS KID where Mickey is playing the piano and Pegleg Pete comes dancing into the cantina? The same tune can be heard in the Oswald cartoon CHILLY CON CARMEN during the sequence where the bull chases Oswald around the ring.

[Paul Penna]

Does anyone know the name of the tune that is played in Disney's THE CACTUS KID where Mickey is playing the piano and Pegleg Pete comes dancing into the cantina? The same tune can be heard in the Oswald cartoon CHILLY CON CARMEN during the sequence where the bull chases Oswald around the ring.

I'm virtually certain it's by French composer Jacques Offenbach (1819-1880), but I can't nail down exactly which of his works it came from. He was sort of a French Johann Strauss, and wrote scads of operettas, including "Orpheus in the Underworld" that features the most famous can-can dance tune that was almost always used when one was depicted in a cartoon.

[Cartman]

I'm virtually certain it's by French composer Jacques Offenbach (1819-1880), but I can't nail down exactly which of his works it came from. He was sort of a French Johann Strauss, and wrote scads of operettas, including "Orpheus in the Underworld" that features the most famous can-can dance tune that was almost always used when one was depicted in a cartoon.No,no, no,no, no, no! I'm thinking of a different tune. As I stated before, it is used when Pete first dances his way into the cantina. The can-can tune isn't used until after Pete has captured Minnie and Mickey is running after him.

[JDWeil]

I believe the song title is La Sorella.

[David Gerstein]

I've got information from a cue sheet for THE CACTUS KID. It describes the tunes, in order of their use in the film, as being "La Paloma" (by Yradier), "Estudenntena" and "Espana" (by Waldteufel), "La Sorella" (by Charles Borel Clerc), and "Orpheus Ov" (by Offenbach—presumably the can-can number).
Presuming my memory of the score is accurate, "La Sorella" would be the tune Pete dances to, though I'm not absolutely sure.

Update: JDWeil posted while I was writing my own post. I guess "La Sorella" it is, then.

[Paul Penna]

I've got information from a cue sheet for THE CACTUS KID. It describes the tunes, in order of their use in the film, as being "La Paloma" (by Yradier), "Estudenntena" and "Espana" (by Waldteufel), "La Sorella" (by Charles Borel Clerc), and "Orpheus Ov" (by Offenbach—presumably the can-can number).
Presuming my memory of the score is accurate, "La Sorella" would be the tune Pete dances to, though I'm not absolutely sure.

Update: JDWeil posted while I was writing my own post. I guess "La Sorella" it is, then.

I found a midi (http://www.classicalarchives.com/forum/messages/2/cancan-x-1185.mid) of "La Sorella," and that is indeed the tune Pete is dancing to. Yes Cartman, I know you were talking about that segment, and my guess that it was by Offenbach was wrong. At that point I hadn't yet watched the end of the cartoon. Anyway, that final chase music is the "Orpheus Ov" cited in the cue sheet.

"La Paloma" is used as Mickey rides in at the beginning. "Estudiantina" is first sung by Minnie ("La la la la...") as she sits on the bar, then played by Mickey as a concerto for wine glasses, shutters and spitoon. Later, clad in a lamp shade and clinking beer mugs, he dances to "Espana."

What I'd really like someone to decipher is that string of Spanish Minnie hurls at Mickey before hurling everything else at him.

[Cartman]

That is indeed the tune. Thanks everyone for your help.

[Cartman]

You can listen to the full song here on Realplayer



http://www.collectionscanada.ca/obj/m2/f3/7075.ram

[JDWeil]

I found a midi (http://www.classicalarchives.com/forum/messages/2/cancan-x-1185.mid) of "La Sorella," and that is indeed the tune Pete is dancing to. Yes Cartman, I know you were talking about that segment, and my guess that it was by Offenbach was wrong. At that point I hadn't yet watched the end of the cartoon. Anyway, that final chase music is the "Orpheus Ov" cited in the cue sheet.

"La Paloma" is used as Mickey rides in at the beginning. "Estudiantina" is first sung by Minnie ("La la la la...") as she sits on the bar, then played by Mickey as a concerto for wine glasses, shutters and spitoon. Later, clad in a lamp shade and clinking beer mugs, he dances to "Espana."

What I'd really like someone to decipher is that string of Spanish Minnie hurls at Mickey before hurling everything else at him.
Interesting sidelight here, Estudiantina theme was hijacked by Liebmann Breweries as an advertising jingle for its Rheingold beer brand so having Minnie sing that theme on the bar carries a double meaning.

[Mac]

What I'd really like someone to decipher is that string of Spanish Minnie hurls at Mickey before hurling everything else at him.

Me too! That scene of Minnie going mental at Mickey cracked me up the first time I saw it!