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wiley207
09-26-2009, 09:46 PM
Well, recently Cartoon Network showed the 1994 Hanna-Barbera telefilm "Arabian Nights" (relabeled for video as "Scooby-Doo's Arabian Nights"). I initially had no intent in seeing it again since 2005, since it was one of Hanna-Barbera's worst productions ever done (with loads of bad animation, rushed writing, etc.) Even my dad hated it! But then I thought, maybe I could record it and check it out again to see how bad I truly remembered it. So I did (back in October when they showed it), and took the following screenshots.

For those who never saw (or heard of) the film, it was produced in 1994 during Hanna-Barbera's "struggling" period before they began producing new material for Cartoon Network in 1995. It features Scooby-Doo and Shaggy (yes, I admit I am a Scooby-Doo fan), who are not solving mysteries or in any creepy locations, and are hired in some Arabian country to be royal food-tasters for a young caliph. But naturally, they pig out and try to hide, but they choose to hide in the Caliph's harem, where Shaggy goes into drag and tries to bore the Caliph to sleep with a couple of stories. The first one is a no-brain parody of Disney's Aladdin with the genders switched, with a girl named Aliyah-Din, a prince and a sultan in failing health, a Jafar-type vizier named Haman, and Yogi Bear and Boo-Boo as genies. The second story is a take on "Sinbad the Sailor," with Magilla Gorilla as Sinbad going on a ride with an evil captain using him as his crew to commit bad deeds.

Despite featuring those classic characters, the film turns out as just plain crap. Not only are Shaggy and Scooby only briefly featured in the film (they appear for ten minutes at the beginning, two minutes in the middle, and two minutes at the end), but they make practically no mentioning that the "Aliyah-Din" and "Sinbad" stories are actually stories being told by Shaggy (he doesn't narrate them, and we don't cut away to Shaggy in the middle of the stories). And the stories are LONG, I forgot to mention. The film is basically a rip-off of "Tiny Toon Adventures," its sister series "Animaniacs" (both of which are EXCELLENT shows by the way!) and a hint of Disney as well. It's full of bad predictable jokes, some of the dialogue is even read without any enthusiasm, and the use of running gags and breaking-the-fourth-wall doesn't help either. The music is basically just the same Tiny Toons/Animaniacs Carl Stalling imitation scores we've been hearing for nearly 20 years now. But to be fair, the music on Tiny Toons and Animaniacs was MUCH better than the score here. While TTA and Animaniacs often ranged from different music styles (such as the typical Carl Stalling style, along with big-band jazz, rock and roll, etc.), "Arabian Nights" just simply relied on the Carl Stalling-type music for the whole film, and it doesn't work. They could've saved more money by just having a regular old TV cartoon band do a passable score like you'd hear on a Nickelodeon cartoon or something, instead of wasting all that money on a full orchestra and swiping Steven Bernstein away from WB to score this film. (BTW, Steve Bernstein was also a TTA/Animaniacs composer, but those shows had many others too, including Bruce Broughton, Gordon Goodwin, Mort Stevens, John Debney, Steve Bramson, Peter Myers, and the late great Richard Stone, all of whom truly understood the WB style.) And the sound effects are another factor, they don't use the classic Hanna-Barbera sound effects very frequently, and when they do, it's the same ten or twenty effects repeated over and over. The rest are just the old Looney Tunes/WB sound effects, and the same sound effects that virtually every cartoon produced in 1994 was using too! And the animation, it is totally poison to the eye. Lots of crude digital pans and zooms abound too. Here are pics to prove it:

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I don't really like the way Shaggy and Scooby are drawn in this film. Shaggy has a smaller-than-usual beard, and a rather angular design, and my dad thinks he seems to resemble the young version from "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo." As for Scooby, his eyes look kinda strange, and he is missing quite a few whiskers!

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Many of the other characters in this movie are drawn like this, with pointed noses, angular hair, and rounded designs. And half of the incidental characters in this movie are kinda fat, too! Fine time to be showing this film, what with the obesity our country is suffering through right now!

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It should be noted that Shaggy has four fingers on his hand, while the majority of the other human characters have THREE fingers on each hand! How freaky is that?

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Ugh, look at this shot when Shaggy and Scooby overreact to tasting the food to see if it was poisoned. When their skin goes to green they become semi-transparent for a second as they do so! Either Scooby and Shaggy were meant to be acting like ghosts at that part, or it was just sloppiness during the editing.

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Look at this attempt to imitate the famous Scooby-Doo "door gag." But it comes out wrong, they keep coming out the CORRECT doorways instead of different ones, and it basically seems to be imitating the Road Runner chases too (Shaggy and Scooby make the same sound effect as the Road Runner as they zoom past each time).

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What you are seeing is not DVNR. For this close-up, all they did was use a digital zoom into the characters a bit, hence the pixelated look, then slowly zoom out. It looks VERY un-professional, the same results if you tried using digital zoom on a video camera.

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The design on these guards seem a little gorilla-like to me, but their faces also remind me of Hollywood from "Two Stupid Dogs" (coincidentally, Brian Cummings, the voice of Hollywood, also voiced one of these guards).

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The geeky Caliph. He looks like the lovechild of Mandark (of "Dexter's Laboratory") and Mr. Crocker (of "The Fairly Oddparents")! As if that weren't enough, he was even voiced by Eddie Deezen, the voice of Mandark, as well as Know-it-all (of "The Polar Express"), Gibby Norton (of "What's New, Scooby-Doo?"), and various others. Earlier on in the film, he wears thick horn-rimmed eyeglasses, but then he falls down and completely breaks his glasses, and thus suffers vision problems for the rest of the movie (I guess he's just a cheapskate or he just plain hates glasses!)

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Oh good gravy. Shaggy does NOT look good as a woman. And even HERE he looks better than he usually appears in the rest of the film. But his bad female voice when he first says "ME?" always makes me laugh cause it's so crappy!

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On the right is Haman, the Jafar knock-off. He also seems to look a bit like Dick Dastardly (but doesn't sound like him; instead he is voiced by John Kassir, the second voice of Buster Bunny). And on the right is the sultan. MORE angular-looking hairstyles here!

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The Lord of the Amulet. He was voiced by the late Tony Jay, which probably explains why his voice greatly reminds me of Dr. Lipschitz of "Rugrats" and the Chief from the 1990s "Secret Squrrel" revival.

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Aliyah-Din and the Prince. They are actually designed quite decently. Here's a good example of how overstylized and angular all the backgrounds are in this film. All the clouds look overstylized, too. It is a far cry from the realistically-designed backgrounds seen in "Tiny Toon Adventures" and "Animaniacs."

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Though you can't really tell by looking at a still, this Disneyesque spinaround shot is flawed by the background, which simply pans from one spot to another without the "rotating" look. It looks quite awkward this way.

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Yogi as the Genie. He looks actually kinda lumpy compared to the streamlined 1950s/1960s Yogi Bear.

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Here is a shot of Yogi with Boo-Boo, who is constantly referred to as a “genie in training.” A REALLY annoying running gag is that Yogi keeps hoping Aliyah-Din will ask for a food wish, and it gets tiring after ten minutes.

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Aliyah-Din as a sexy-looking princess. I have to admit that she’s probably the best-designed character in the whole film.

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Another running gag of sorts, a rather timid, bumbling scribe that is assistant to the sultan. He seems to remind me a bit of the White Rabbit from Disney’s “Alice in Wonderland.”

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After wishing to be sultan among acquiring the lamp (ala Jafar), Haman wishes to be RULER OF THE UNIVERSE. His third wish is to live forever so he can rule the universe for all eternity, but Yogi and Boo-Boo refuse. Then the tale ends the same way it’s supposed to (but I won’t ruin it).

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The second story, “Sinbad the Sailor,” features Magilla Gorilla, voiced by Alan Melvin reprising the original role. Magilla looks OK in a few shots, but at other parts he looks a little strange.

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The evil captain. He is voiced by Charlie Adler, the original voice of Buster Bunny, using his Ickis voice. The captain does annoy me a bit at times, though.

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During the rhuk egg parts, they do a rip-off of Wile E. Coyote's famous cliff falls. The camera angle and the style of the captain falling is the exact same style, the small puff of dust in the distance when he lands is the exact same too, and they even use the EXACT SAME SOUND EFFECT of Wile E. landing too!

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Magilla Gorilla, trying to escape from the angry mother rhuk, attempts the classic Hanna-Barbera “bongo feet” stunt as he prepares to run off, but in this 1990s version he jiggles up and down via the exact same two drawings of his feet over and over, and as a result it looks a bit cheap. The older “bongo feet” animations looked much better, IMO.

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Look at the way these tourists are drawn. To me they look kinda like comic strip characters, and their designs also seem to remind me of some of the 1990s “What a Cartoon” segments.

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Here is an even MORE annoying running gag that keeps occurring during the story. After each long scene, the ship sinks (it simply slides downward without much indication that it is sinking except for the sound effects)…

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…and after each time it sinks, the cruise ship Magilla was supposed to go on passes by! It’s honestly a lot like those annoying running gags they always do on “The Fairly Oddparents."

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Even though it isn’t very obvious by just looking at a still screenshot, Magilla’s walk cycle at this scene is VERY lazy. All they did was just animate him walking in one place, and then digitally move it a little upward and zoom it out a bit. It looks VERY awkward and sloppy, and reminds me of the worst of Jay Ward’s animation.

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The upper-class Cyclops from the same story. His design somewhat reminds me of someone that would appear on an episode of TTA or “Animaniacs.” He’s voiced by Maurice LaMarche (in one of his very few H-B voice roles), using his Toucan Sam voice. Now all we need is him saying "Part of this nutririous breakfast!"

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At this part, Magilla Gorilla tells us, “Amazing how things happen right on cue in a cartoon, isn't it?” I honestly think that line would sound better coming out of Buster Bunny or maybe even Yakko Warner instead of Magilla Gorilla.

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BTW, I also forgot to mention that Shaggy’s not the only character in the film with four fingers. The chef in the bridging sequences also has four fingers too! I honestly don’t get it why those two characters have four fingers, while all the other characters have three fingers!

And of course, the final line ever uttered in a Hanna-Barbera cartoon featuring the classic non-Flintstones characters is…
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“Scooby-dooby-doooooooooooooooooo!"

Ah come on, Scooby. You didn’t even do much in this film! Why'd you have to close the film by saying that for the millionth time?

This film premiered on September 3, 1994. THIS was when Hanna-Barbera’s quality completely dropped IMO, with the exception of the “What a Cartoon” segments they did in 1995-1997, and some of the series they co-produced with Cartoon Network Studios until 1999. Much of the staff that produced this movie wasn't even the veteran H-B staff or even anyone from Warner Bros. (except for the music composer), but mainly people from the Southern Star/Hanna-Barbera Australia studio (which closed back in 1990), and people who would later go on to the "Family Guy" production staff and Frederator Inc. (including the studio's final president, Fred Seibert.)
The animation for this movie was outsourced to Wang Film Productions in Taiwan, which also did overseas animation for “Tiny Toon Adventures” and “Animaniacs.” Unlike this movie, though, Wang’s animation on TTA and “Animaniacs” was actually pretty good, but not as good as Tokyo Movie Shinsha’s work on those shows. Other studios that did animation for those two series besides TMS and Wang included StarToons, Akom Productions, Koko Productions, Freelance Animators and Kennedy Cartoons.

And as if that weren't bad enough, this film seems to have inspired the god-awful "Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue," not just by only featuring out-of-character versions of Scooby and Shaggy, but also by featuring extremely bad animation!

Any comments?

nickramer
09-26-2009, 10:04 PM
Did I already mention that I'm not a big fan of Nonstagic Critic style reviews?

Studio Toledo
09-26-2009, 10:59 PM
I was hoping this will never be spoken by human breath again, but someone has to start!

Well, recently Cartoon Network showed the 1994 Hanna-Barbera telefilm "Arabian Nights" (relabeled for video as "Scooby-Doo's Arabian Nights"). I initially had no intent in seeing it again since 2005, since it was one of Hanna-Barbera's worst productions ever done (with loads of bad animation, rushed writing, etc.) Even my dad hated it! But then I thought, maybe I could record it and check it out again to see how bad I truly remembered it. So I did (back in October when they showed it), and took the following screenshots.
OK, whatever!

Despite featuring those classic characters, the film turns out as just plain crap. Not only are Shaggy and Scooby only briefly featured in the film (they appear for ten minutes at the beginning, two minutes in the middle, and two minutes at the end), but they make practically no mentioning that the "Aliyah-Din" and "Sinbad" stories are actually stories being told by Shaggy (he doesn't narrate them, and we don't cut away to Shaggy in the middle of the stories). And the stories are LONG, I forgot to mention.Makes you wonder what kind of story meetings they had to determine they needed Shaggy and Scooby merely to bridge these stories together?


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I don't really like the way Shaggy and Scooby are drawn in this film. Shaggy has a smaller-than-usual beard, and a rather angular design, and my dad thinks he seems to resemble the young version from "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo." As for Scooby, his eyes look kinda strange, and he is missing quite a few whiskers!Seems like they did too much shortcutting on the designs just to get this out and fast enough.


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Many of the other characters in this movie are drawn like this, with pointed noses, angular hair, and rounded designs. And half of the incidental characters in this movie are kinda fat, too! Fine time to be showing this film, what with the obesity our country is suffering through right now!I don't have a problem with fatso chefs though!


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It should be noted that Shaggy has four fingers on his hand, while the majority of the other human characters have THREE fingers on each hand! How freaky is that?I dunno, you wonder if it was a case of forgetting when they were making the model sheets and just said "the hell with it!"? There's been a lot of instances in cartoons where I'd end up seeing that happen a lot.


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Ugh, look at this shot when Shaggy and Scooby overreact to tasting the food to see if it was poisoned. When their skin goes to green they become semi-transparent for a second as they do so! Either Scooby and Shaggy were meant to be acting like ghosts at that part, or it was just sloppiness during the editing.I mentioned this many times before, but this was back when H-B had that crappy computer system in place to animate their shows on video rather than the painstaken work of traditional celluoid painting/photographing/editing. I get the impression from this shot alone that their computer couldn't handle a proper cross-dissolve of cels (or alpha channels) without losing it's opacity temporarily. Current systems probably can handle that a lot better than it was 15 years ago (especially with whatever equipment H-B had around). Not all shows/specials/TV movies were made this way, as they still continued to rely on inking and painting cels and film editing for a number of years until the studio's closure.


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What you are seeing is not DVNR. For this close-up, all they did was use a digital zoom into the characters a bit, hence the pixelated look, then slowly zoom out. It looks VERY un-professional, the same results if you tried using digital zoom on a video camera.Either this was done on their computer or it was done via video post-production. The way these shows were originally done, the drawings would've been placed under a camera of sorts, then scanned into the program were they would then do the usual timing and color adding when need be, but I can't explain this show from the still-frame alone, and I DON'T want to watch this either!


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The geeky Caliph. He looks like the lovechild of Mandark (of "Dexter's Laboratory") and Mr. Crocker (of "The Fairly Oddparents")! As if that weren't enough, he was even voiced by Eddie Deezen, the voice of Mandark, as well as Know-it-all (of "The Polar Express"), Gibby Norton (of "What's New, Scooby-Doo?"), and various others. Earlier on in the film, he wears thick horn-rimmed eyeglasses, but then he falls down and completely breaks his glasses, and thus suffers vision problems for the rest of the movie (I guess he's just a cheapskate or he just plain hates glasses!)The voice is very distinctive of what Deezen can do, and this is one of the first voice roles in a cartoon he would take as well prior to Mandark and othres that followed.


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Oh good gravy. Shaggy does NOT look good as a woman. And even HERE he looks better than he usually appears in the rest of the film. But his bad female voice when he first says "ME?" always makes me laugh cause it's so crappy!This was also one of the last times that Casey Kasem would voice Shaggy, before he left momentarily due to personal conflict of the character's eating habit. He would return though early in the decade to work on the Scooby Doo direct-to-video films and several other projects.

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Aliyah-Din and the Prince. They are actually designed quite decently. Here's a good example of how overstylized and angular all the backgrounds are in this film. All the clouds look overstylized, too. It is a far cry from the realistically-designed backgrounds seen in "Tiny Toon Adventures" and "Animaniacs."Most of the backgrounds felt like leftovers from "2 Stupid Dogs" to me. And it's obvious they had to make it a girl here to leave out the confusions people may have with the usual Aladdin story that Disney already adapted a couple years before.

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Yogi as the Genie. He looks actually kinda lumpy compared to the streamlined 1950s/1960s Yogi Bear.Can't remember if it was always this way in the TV specials/movies of the 80's.


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The second story, “Sinbad the Sailor,” features Magilla Gorilla, voiced by Alan Melvin reprising the original role. Magilla looks OK in a few shots, but at other parts he looks a little strange.I often think his role in this was an excuse to find something for this character to do since he probably wasn't used much at the studio for years!


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Look at the way these tourists are drawn. To me they look kinda like comic strip characters, and their designs also seem to remind me of some of the 1990s “What a Cartoon” segments.Very Lockhorn-ish!


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BTW, I also forgot to mention that Shaggy’s not the only character in the film with four fingers. The chef in the bridging sequences also has four fingers too! I honestly don’t get it why those two characters have four fingers, while all the other characters have three fingers!Again, I never complain about the small details!

And of course, the final line ever uttered in a Hanna-Barbera cartoon featuring the classic non-Flintstones characters is…
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“Scooby-dooby-doooooooooooooooooo!"

Ah come on, Scooby. You didn’t even do much in this film! Why'd you have to close the film by saying that for the millionth time?Who knows, typical catchphrase of the character perhaps.

The animation for this movie was outsourced to Wang Film Productions in Taiwan, which also did overseas animation for “Tiny Toon Adventures” and “Animaniacs.” Unlike this movie, though, Wang’s animation on TTA and “Animaniacs” was actually pretty good, but not as good as Tokyo Movie Shinsha’s work on those shows. Other studios that did animation for those two series besides TMS and Wang included StarToons, Akom Productions, Koko Productions, Freelance Animators and Kennedy Cartoons.
Freelance Animators always seemed like a fancy name for a New Zealand group, though I had the impression from reading the name that they sent the work to animators' homes around the country and mailed it back!

[quote]And as if that weren't bad enough, this film seems to have inspired the god-awful "Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue," not just by only featuring out-of-character versions of Scooby and Shaggy, but also by featuring extremely bad animation!Because that's all we have anymore. :rolleyes:

wiley207
09-26-2009, 11:08 PM
I mentioned this many times before, but this was back when H-B had that crappy computer system in place to animate their shows on video rather than the painstaken work of traditional celluoid painting/photographing/editing. I get the impression from this shot alone that their computer couldn't handle a proper cross-dissolve of cels (or alpha channels) without losing it's opacity temporarily. Current systems probably can handle that a lot better than it was 15 years ago (especially with whatever equipment H-B had around). Not all shows/specials/TV movies were made this way, as they still continued to rely on inking and painting cels and film editing for a number of years until the studio's closure.


Hmm, the computer system animated looked fine on "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo" (probably because that was H-B's first attempt at breaking away from their usual flat style, especially considering they had Glen Kennedy's distinctive bouncy animation in it, which was revolutionary for its time until the Tiny Toons era came around).
And I can't imagine how "Tiny Toons" or "Animaniacs" would've looked if they were produced in a computer system like that. Probably would look the same as "Arabian Nights" did, if not better. I'm sure that would've been the case for the Wang-animated episodes of those shows, and not TMS or Startoons which were great with doing their own ink/paint work (Startoons typically used Xerography in place of hand-inking.)

I also have the feeling that they had the Warner Bros. Animation orchestra perform the score for this film. Sounds a lot like it. And seeing that composer Steven Bernstein was a silver-age WB composer as well, it could be likely. (I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Carl Stalling-esque styles do NOT fit with H-B's cartoons.)

Studio Toledo
09-26-2009, 11:29 PM
Hmm, the computer system animated looked fine on "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo" (probably because that was H-B's first attempt at breaking away from their usual flat style, especially considering they had Glen Kennedy's distinctive bouncy animation in it, which was revolutionary for its time until the Tiny Toons era came around).
And I can't imagine how "Tiny Toons" or "Animaniacs" would've looked if they were produced in a computer system like that. Probably would look the same as "Arabian Nights" did, if not better. I'm sure that would've been the case for the Wang-animated episodes of those shows, and not TMS or Startoons which were great with doing their own ink/paint work (Startoons typically used Xerography in place of hand-inking.)
Most studios that worked on that show used xeroxing anyway (TMS episodes did not use hand-inking but the drawings were transferred to cels via thermography which is used in most, if not all anime programs, the outlines are transferred to the backs of cels where the paint area is, and are proned to color fade due to the paint applied as well as light).

I also have the feeling that they had the Warner Bros. Animation orchestra perform the score for this film. Sounds a lot like it. And seeing that composer Steven Bernstein was a silver-age WB composer as well, it could be likely. (I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Carl Stalling-esque styles do NOT fit with H-B's cartoons.)
Perhaps they couldn't afford anything else at the time so they had to loan out those guys for the trouble.

wiley207
09-26-2009, 11:36 PM
Most studios that worked on that show used xeroxing anyway (TMS episodes did not use hand-inking but the drawings were transferred to cels via thermography which is used in most, if not all anime programs, the outlines are transferred to the backs of cels where the paint area is, and are proned to color fade due to the paint applied as well as light).


Funny they didn't mention they used xerography in the credits like the Hanna-Barbera shows did. Perhaps they didn't want to annoy the purists that prefer hand-inking over xeroxing? (I know "Scooby-Doo's Arabian Nights" had xerox animation too, but aside from the composer and some of the voice cast, virtually NONE of the Warner Bros. Animation staff had any involvement with this show when it looks almost as if H-B forced them out of the good stuff to produce this disaster.)

Maybe the reason why it attempts to mimic "Tiny Toons" and "Animaniacs" is because by 1994, Hanna-Barbera was failing in terms of new shows and TV specials, as Disney, Nick and WB's then-new TV animations studios were now pretty much hogging the spotlight, and they offered radical new stylings that were a great departure of the usual late 1980s/early 1990s H-B fare. This movie was just yet another failure for H-B. It wasn't until the "What-a-Cartoon" series and the founding of sister company/subsidiary Cartoon Network Studios (which was responsible for production of the main "Dexter," "Cow & Chicken," etc. series) when the studio really began to take off again. Had it not been for that, H-B would've already been closed down by the end of 1994 instead of surviving well into 1998.

Studio Toledo
09-26-2009, 11:47 PM
Funny they didn't mention they used xerography in the credits like the Hanna-Barbera shows did. Perhaps they didn't want to annoy the purists that prefer hand-inking over xeroxing?[/quote
Saying "Ink & Paint" has been an industry term for quite a long time. Usually inking only ever gets done for things like highlights where an invisible line (usually a paint color) is applied to separate the tones (nowadays "cel shading" seems to be the term used for this in the CG age).

[quote]Maybe the reason why it attempts to mimic "Tiny Toons" and "Animaniacs" is because by 1994, Hanna-Barbera was failing in terms of new shows and TV specials, as Disney, Nick and WB's then-new TV animations studios were now pretty much hogging the spotlight, and they offered radical new stylings that were a great departure of the usual late 1980s/early 1990s H-B fare. This movie was just yet another failure for H-B. It wasn't until the "What-a-Cartoon" series and the founding of sister company/subsidiary Cartoon Network Studios (which was responsible for production of the main "Dexter," "Cow & Chicken," etc. series) when the studio really began to take off again. Had it not been for that, H-B would've already been closed down by the end of 1994 instead of surviving well into 1998.
True. This was during the time when, because of Ren & Stimpy and other cartoons that followed, we were beginning to stray away from that road that TV animation took during the 70's and 80's and into new territory that wasn't discovered yet.

Being reminded of this one video someone made of having visited the studios in '94 (though during production of SWAT Kats which was a decent show for it's time).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktBdKZcv0EQ

ThePeterNetwork
09-27-2009, 09:04 PM
This was also one of the last times that Casey Kasem would voice Shaggy, before he left momentarily due to personal conflict of the character's eating habit. He would return though early in the decade to work on the Scooby Doo direct-to-video films and several other projects.

Several other projects = "What's New Scooby-Doo"?

dandu
09-28-2009, 12:51 AM
This is one of the worst scooby doo movies I have ever seen, I can't believe it was made as early as 1994. I thought it was made much more recently due to the really drab looking "Flash" animation. There were moments in it though that made me laugh..and it is more bearable than any scrappy doo cartoons ugh. I hate scrappy.