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dandu
09-09-2009, 04:52 PM
I just checked out cinemasacre's website today and here is a video that I am sure you all will enjoy. Especially Tom since he really likes collecting toons on film!

http://www.cinemassacre.com/new/?p=2688

cbrubaker
09-09-2009, 05:01 PM
I loved that.

I got my projector back yesterday and spent all day watching cartoons I've collected on film. Despite seeing most of it a million times on video/DVD, seeing it on film was...well, magical, to say the least.

And because I was watching it in the original frame rate (24fps vs. 29.9fps), even the movement seemed different, especially when the background is panning.

I think I need to collect more cartoons on film. Alas, they can be very costly.

Bugsy-Kun
09-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Just wish one day the films projectors was accessible to everyone and can forget the VHS/DVD.

dandu
09-09-2009, 06:47 PM
Just wish one day the films projectors was accessible to everyone and can forget the VHS/DVD.

Same here, it's just like owning vinyl records, once you get them in good condition, youll quickly hock the CDs.

Thad
09-09-2009, 07:01 PM
And who do you think 'helped' Mike get most of his films! :scrooge:

R.J. Smith
09-09-2009, 07:06 PM
I started collecting old home movie cartoons. I have a 16mm Woody Woodpecker ("Knock Knock"; missing beginning) and an 8mm Heckle and Jeckle ("A Merry Chase"). I hope I collect more film prints of cartoons in the near future.

jonmayo15
09-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Same here, it's just like owning vinyl records, once you get them in good condition, youll quickly hock the CDs.I've found room in my heart for both, but I can't stand Cassette tapes.:)

tristar
09-09-2009, 07:47 PM
I've found room in my heart for both, but I can't stand Cassette tapes.:)Same here. Vinyl is the way to, CDs can be done right, but casette tapes are awful.

Bugsy-Kun
09-09-2009, 09:14 PM
Same here. Vinyl is the way to, CDs can be done right, but casette tapes are awful.

Oh yeah, the famous cassettes tapes are the ones i collected them without reasons, but yeah the quality sound was awful. I have small memories of the Vinyl. CD's are better because the quality sound are amazing even for a old song but now i feel now they having some manipulations to the mastering. I think the only way to heard songs like they really are in Vinyl. Final point!

LooneyFan
09-09-2009, 11:00 PM
I feel kind of bad now. Horrible actually.

Mike, James, and you guys all collect these wonderful cartoons on film...and I not even a projector at home. I do all my collecting the cheater way and buy the DVDs.

But I do like to show off my stuff. My friend and I did a few couple of nights where we just sat back and watched cartoons. Even till two in the morning! What fun!

cbrubaker
09-10-2009, 12:55 AM
I feel kind of bad now. Horrible actually.

Mike, James, and you guys all collect these wonderful cartoons on film...and I not even a projector at home. I do all my collecting the cheater way and buy the DVDs.

But I do like to show off my stuff. My friend and I did a few couple of nights where we just sat back and watched cartoons. Even till two in the morning! What fun!


Well, you really do have to be dedicated to this stuff.

Most films are outright expensive. Especially a good-quality Looney Tunes print. Even a 16mm print of a "Pink Panther" short can go up to $50.

Tom Stathes
09-10-2009, 01:03 AM
I just paid $200 for an Out of the Inkwell...whoop-dee-doo! :D

Studio Toledo
09-10-2009, 07:33 AM
Might as well show off my collection that I can show from my closet door (not all of it either)!

mulroz
09-10-2009, 08:07 AM
Might as well show off my collection that I can show from my closet door (not all of it either)!

My wife would kill me if I had such a collection. Already have enough trouble explaining why it is important to own 2000 cd's and a few hundred dvd's

LooneyFan
09-10-2009, 01:06 PM
Well, you really do have to be dedicated to this stuff

Well, that makes me happy that you said that. Because, there's somebody that I dedicate my life to.

Don't get me wrong...cartoons and animation still have a big place in my life.

Studio Toledo
09-10-2009, 01:41 PM
My wife would kill me if I had such a collection. Already have enough trouble explaining why it is important to own 2000 cd's and a few hundred dvd's
I once had a thousand VHS tapes myself! Trying to get rid of 'em by putting them all on DVD! Thankfully I'm not in that bit of a trouble with it despite some that thought I have too many projectors already (have another 4-5 of 'em). They're were quite easy to get for free whenever schools would throw them out a decade ago.

Tom Stathes
09-10-2009, 03:27 PM
I still have around 800 of my VHS tapes, 600 are PD cartoons (won't ever part with them!) Got any PD tapes, Christopher?

Studio Toledo
09-10-2009, 03:56 PM
I still have around 800 of my VHS tapes, 600 are PD cartoons (won't ever part with them!) Got any PD tapes, Christopher?
Not anymore, but thanks for asking.

Tom Stathes
09-10-2009, 04:07 PM
Not anymore? I hope they didn't get the recycling treatment... ouch :bugs2:

LooneyFan
09-10-2009, 06:09 PM
And oh yes...how could I forget that I have a few PD Tapes with me too?

ThePeterNetwork
09-10-2009, 06:26 PM
That takes me back to my college film production days. I went no further than 8mm/Super 8 film production. I hear you can't even get that kind of film anymore, much less develop it. Everything is all on videotape, or at least it was when I had a camcorder. Nowadays it's either mini DVD+/-, flash memory or hard drive storage. And the camcorders now are so small!

But I digress. I enjoyed watching filmed movies projected onto the wall or screen, particularly cartoons. Unfortunately, I have no place in my apartment to keep such equipment, so I have to make do with DVDs. :(

Tim Lones
09-10-2009, 07:04 PM
I can Vouch that Studio Toledo has a lot of stuff even besides cartoons..Case In point, though I am kind of veering off-topic..

I had been looking for years for examples of "The Ohio Story" a 10-minute Ohio history/geography/industrial film series sponsored by the old Ohio Bell Telephone Company, narrated by actor Nelson Olmsted..These were shown throughout the 1950' s and 1960's as after-the-news time fillers and to fill holes in other parts of the schedule on TV stations all over Ohio...Studio Toledo made a copy of one of these and put it on YouTube..Was real happy to find it the other day and feature this program on my blog site..

http://clevelandclassicmedia.blogspot.com/2009/09/ohio-storythe-port-of-toledo.html

Includes some history behind the show, which started on Radio in 1947 and ran about 20 years..Thanks again Studio Toledo!

dandu
09-10-2009, 07:13 PM
Oh yeah, the famous cassettes tapes are the ones i collected them without reasons, but yeah the quality sound was awful. I have small memories of the Vinyl. CD's are better because the quality sound are amazing even for a old song but now i feel now they having some manipulations to the mastering. I think the only way to heard songs like they really are in Vinyl. Final point!

Cassettes in my opinion when recorded off of vinyl sound wayyy better than CDs ever will, or recording off of a CD with dolby c sounds better than the original. Of course this is if you have a decent recorder with a load of good Maxell or TDK brand tapes. Also cassettes have a good lastability unlike most of my CD-Rs. My dad has tapes he recorded as early as 1977 and they sound brilliant today, whereas some of our CD-Rs after a week had deteriorated completely.

Bugsy-Kun
09-10-2009, 08:13 PM
Cassettes in my opinion when recorded off of vinyl sound wayyy better than CDs ever will, or recording off of a CD with dolby c sounds better than the original. Of course this is if you have a decent recorder with a load of good Maxell or TDK brand tapes. Also cassettes have a good lastability unlike most of my CD-Rs. My dad has tapes he recorded as early as 1977 and they sound brilliant today, whereas some of our CD-Rs after a week had deteriorated completely.

I'm glad that your father have some tapes from this time. It sounds be a great discover if you show us.

Studio Toledo
09-10-2009, 09:21 PM
That takes me back to my college film production days. I went no further than 8mm/Super 8 film production. I hear you can't even get that kind of film anymore, much less develop it.
You're probably thinking of Kodachrome 40, which was discontinued a few years ago. Kodak however still bothers with a few film stocks in super 8 you can buy and develop at several places.
http://motion.kodak.com/US/en/motion/Products/Production/Spotlight_on_Super_8/index.htm

Everything is all on videotape, or at least it was when I had a camcorder. Nowadays it's either mini DVD+/-, flash memory or hard drive storage. And the camcorders now are so small!There are still people who like shooting on 16mm or super 8mm for artistic reasons that digital perfection can't always achieve. I really don't care for the size of camcorders today at all since I used to like it when they were a tad bitter to lug around and had enough manual controls on it for whatever scene you may plan to shoot.

But I digress. I enjoyed watching filmed movies projected onto the wall or screen, particularly cartoons. Unfortunately, I have no place in my apartment to keep such equipment, so I have to make do with DVDs. :(Bother having two projector screens too, one I can stand up on a tripod and another that would have to be nailed to the ceiling!

Studio Toledo
09-10-2009, 09:24 PM
I can Vouch that Studio Toledo has a lot of stuff even besides cartoons..Case In point, though I am kind of veering off-topic..

I had been looking for years for examples of "The Ohio Story" a 10-minute Ohio history/geography/industrial film series sponsored by the old Ohio Bell Telephone Company, narrated by actor Nelson Olmsted..These were shown throughout the 1950' s and 1960's as after-the-news time fillers and to fill holes in other parts of the schedule on TV stations all over Ohio...Studio Toledo made a copy of one of these and put it on YouTube..Was real happy to find it the other day and feature this program on my blog site..

http://clevelandclassicmedia.blogspot.com/2009/09/ohio-storythe-port-of-toledo.html

Includes some history behind the show, which started on Radio in 1947 and ran aout 20 years..Thanks again Studio Toledo!
Thanks for plugging that! Too bad all I had was just that video copy anyway, I assume the library either still holds it or it's in someone else's collection from the book sales they held once or twice a year. I would go there to pick up films as I could afford them, but they were charging a dollar a minute!

jonmayo15
09-10-2009, 09:57 PM
Cassettes in my opinion when recorded off of vinyl sound wayyy better than CDs ever will, or recording off of a CD with dolby c sounds better than the original
I disagree. I've made digital copies of my Mono Beatles LP albums for CDs, and in mono at 32 bits it completely kills any cassette tape. Tapes have a warbling quality present even on most high-end tapes. Also, tape rot eventually becomes an issue.

cbrubaker
09-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Here's my projector and a sample of my film collection.

http://bakertoons.blogspot.com/2009/09/projector.html

And of course the list of films I have (or recently bought) is on my sig.

Tom Stathes
09-11-2009, 08:30 PM
That's Mike Matei with James, they are best friends. Wasn't Mike a member here at some point?

The "Chase"
09-11-2009, 10:39 PM
That's Mike Matei with James, they are best friends. Wasn't Mike a member here at some point?

Yeah. Let's say he's gone for a good reason...

Tom Stathes
09-11-2009, 10:40 PM
I thought so, but then he vanished some day. I can't imagine why.

The "Chase"
09-11-2009, 10:42 PM
I thought so, but then he vanished some day. I can't imagine why.

I would love to explain why, but rules is rules...

Thad
09-11-2009, 10:44 PM
I thought so, but then he vanished some day. I can't imagine why.

Yes, I remember he was banned for telling friends Happy Birthday.

Tom Stathes
09-11-2009, 10:46 PM
Odd.

Studio Toledo
09-11-2009, 11:01 PM
Odd.
Well, I wish he sent me a birthday greeting anyway (since I didn't bother to report mine last month figuring people either know or don't).

nickramer
09-13-2009, 08:42 PM
It was birthdays to banned members and spammers that he sent greetings to. He flooded about 1/4 of this fourm.

Tom Stathes
09-13-2009, 10:23 PM
That, I think, is an exaggeration.

Thad
09-13-2009, 10:26 PM
That, I think, is an exaggeration.

I agree, Tom. Apparently 3 posts is 1/4 of the forum.

I miss Matei's relentless wit something fierce.

nickramer
09-13-2009, 10:31 PM
I agree, Tom. Apparently 3 posts is 1/4 of the forum.


Yor're right. I made a mistake. It was at least 4 or 5 threads he made.

Leviathan
09-14-2009, 03:20 PM
I spoke to Mike briefly on DeviantArt. He was pretty upset at having been banned (can't say I blame him)

Bugsy-Kun
09-14-2009, 03:54 PM
I spoke to Mike briefly on DeviantArt. He was pretty upset at having been banned (can't say I blame him)

I really miss him and his funny art style. I remember watching him when i joined DA 4 years ago.

Matthew Hunter
09-14-2009, 11:33 PM
13. Discussion of banned members is not permitted – once they're gone, they're gone.

I agree that Mike is an amazing talent and a funny guy. But the rules here applied to him as they do for everyone else, and he ignored them.

Tom Stathes
09-15-2009, 02:41 AM
Aww, we all know creative people don't follow rules. That would be counterproductive! :D