Dumbest Comments About Classic Cartoons

[Marty26]

Here's a fun topic. What are the dumbest comments you've ever had to witness about classic cartoons? Be it from parents, friends, or even fellow cartoon fans.

[Brandon Panther]

"You still watch Looney Tunes? Those are for little kids!"

[Mac]

My sister likes to refer to classic cartoons as "gay" and will sometimes imply that I'm gay for liking them. As much as I love my sister, that's pretty dumb.

[Glowworm]

Two days ago-Saturday night-I was watching "Herr meets Hare" on DVD. My mom was in the room calmly paying some bills. She normally doesn't care about cartoons-nor what I'm watching. However that night during the scene in which Bugs disguises himself as Hitler and Goring imediately changes into his Nazi officer uniform, my mom suddenly remarked "Is that a swashtika? This isn't funny." Mind you we do happen to be Jewish-but mom didn't realize that the cartoon was MAKING FUN of Hitler-she just saw a swashtika and jumped to that conclusion. I almost felt embaressed watching the rest of the cartoon afterwards-and even laughed more at it on purpose.

Thank goodness, "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" wasn't on there.:D

[Mr. Semaj]

-The "cartoons are for kids" stuff I had to put up with during my teen years.

-When people expect cartoons to follow a format that it's not even intended to follow.

There was one discussion on Mike Barrier's site in August 2004 where [name withheld] kept comparing Bugs' tirade in Tortoise Wins by a Hare to all of the dwarf scenes from Snow White. Building up on the "apples and oranges" scenario, you're comparing a ninety minute feature with a six minute short, each of which different formats with a different purpose.

Then there was a UPA debate from May 2007 where Tell Tale Heart was attacked because its animation wasn't "broad enough" or something, despite the fact that the cartoon wasn't going for the exaggeration that was expected from it.

[cpdavison]

"She's the grand daughter of the guy who made TerryToons, you know, before they became Looney Tunes!"

:rolleyes:

Craig D.

[Studio Toledo]

"She's the grand daughter of the guy who made TerryToons, you know, before they became Looney Tunes!"

:rolleyes:

Craig D.
Hahahaha.

Aside from the "cartoons are for kids" messages I've already heard in my lifetime, the notion that Disney is the only guys to make cartoons at all seem to resonate a little more with certain members of my dad's side of the family, as they often felt I should work for them if I wanted to be an animator.

[Vdubdavid]

Overheard on the tennis court one day: "This one's for that Tom and Jerry guy, Fred Quimby!"

[Brandon Panther]

Overheard on the tennis court one day: "This one's for that Tom and Jerry guy, Fred Quimby!"
Somewhere, in Heaven or Hell, Fred Quimby probably smiled and thought that was the best thing anyone could ever say.

[ohmahaaha]

Perhaps the Dumbest Comment about Classic Cartoons of all time would be whoever first called Snow White and the Seven Dwarves "Disney's Folly."

[SatStorm]

"Cartoons are for kids". And unfortunately, I hear that occasionally.

[Bugsy-Kun]

"Cartoons are for Kids" is a classic one but a thing who gets my nerves since my lifetime.

In the much current cartoons and i don't want to make a debate on this, but the fact that classic R&S fans attacked the Adult Party cartoons because they turned gays. I want to told them, "Gawd! They're just cartoon characters. And at least, it's very well animated unlike the flatten Korean aniamtions from the Games years!" I don't care if peoples thinks they turned out gay because re-watching this recently was a neat experience, but i know many peoples will be disagree with me.

[LooneyFan]

Two days ago-Saturday night-I was watching "Herr meets Hare" on DVD. My mom was in the room calmly paying some bills. She normally doesn't care about cartoons-nor what I'm watching. However that night during the scene in which Bugs disguises himself as Hitler and Goring imediately changes into his Nazi officer uniform, my mom suddenly remarked "Is that a swashtika? This isn't funny." Mind you we do happen to be Jewish-but mom didn't realize that the cartoon was MAKING FUN of Hitler-she just saw a swashtika and jumped to that conclusion. I almost felt embaressed watching the rest of the cartoon afterwards-and even laughed more at it on purpose.

Thank goodness, "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" wasn't on there.:D

I had a similar experience. My brother-in-law and sister was watching "Herr Meets Hare" with me and my brother-in-law being a kind-of Looney Tunes hater but will laugh at some points, saw Bugs as Hitler and took that opprotunity to bash LT with "*GASP* Bugs Bunny....dressed as Hitler?!"

I also get the occasonsional "Cartoons are for kids", etc. but my brother-in-law also likes to bash LT for it's "kid-friendly appearence, but adult oriented insides"

BTW, it looks like my dad isn't much of a Tex Avery fan...he didn't like "Little Johnny Jet" and "S-S-S-h-h-h" but, what do I know? It's only two cartoons.

[J. B. Warner]

In the much current cartoons and i don't want to make a debate on this, but the fact that classic R&S fans attacked the Adult Party cartoons because they turned gays. I want to told them, "Gawd! They're just cartoon characters. And at least, it's very well animated unlike the flatten Korean aniamtions from the Games years!" I don't care if peoples thinks they turned out gay because re-watching this recently was a neat experience, but i know many peoples will be disagree with me.

From what I understand, people don't hate "Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon" because Ren and Stimpy were made into a gay couple; they hate it because it just plain old sucked.

I test the waters of my coworkers' knowledge of animation every so often with a little show of my own knowledge - I have them name their favorite Looney Tunes character, and I tell the story of the character's creation. And here's two trends I've noticed:
1. When asked to choose their favorite, guys usually pick Bugs Bunny, but girls always pick Tweety. And most of them think Tweety himself is a girl.
2. People tend to pick characters who aren't Looney Tunes characters. I've gotten responses like Popeye, Woody Woodpecker, Tom and Jerry - I think someone even said Mickey Mouse once.

But probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say in regards to classic animation was a remark made by one of my former managers. He overheard me mention that the first Mickey Mouse cartoon was made in 1928, and he refused to believe me - "How could they have made cartoons in 1928? They didn't even have television yet!" (For the record, this guy was in his late 60s - you'd think he'd remember the theatrical era.)

[Daffysleftfoot]

but my brother-in-law also likes to bash LT for it's "kid-friendly appearence, but adult oriented insides" .

He "bashes" them for being the perfect balance of entertainment??!! With all due respect, your brother-in-law is a moron. :rolleyes:

I remember a friend of mine stating that Hanna Barbera's tv cartoons pre-date the Looney Tunes based solely on the fact that the animation is worse. That's of course just a case of someone stating a thoery as fact without actually doing any research. WAY too many people do this when talking about animation.

[Studio Toledo]

But probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say in regards to classic animation was a remark made by one of my former managers. He overheard me mention that the first Mickey Mouse cartoon was made in 1928, and he refused to believe me - "How could they have made cartoons in 1928? They didn't even have television yet!" (For the record, this guy was in his late 60s - you'd think he'd remember the theatrical era.)
Hahahahaha!

This is why I gave up! :p

[nickramer]

Not something I heard live nor is it 100% about animation, but that MadTV actress reaction after Earl Kress mention about being around when TV first started out during one of the commentaries on Tom and Jerry Spotlight vol.2
Honestly, what was Warner thinking about pairing her with Earl? Why not Mr. Beck?


Heck, I'm still scratching my head on why it took so long to cancel that SNL-ripoff?

[Studio Toledo]

He "bashes" them for being the perfect balance of entertainment??!! With all due respect, your brother-in-law is a moron. :rolleyes:
Of the worst kind!

I remember a friend of mine stating that Hanna Barbera's tv cartoons pre-date the Looney Tunes based solely on the fact that the animation is worse. That's of course just a case of someone stating a thoery as fact without actually doing any research. WAY too many people do this when talking about animation.
Sad really.

Of the earliest memories of TV my late mother once told me, was that the first cartoons she saw on the boob tube had been of silent shorts, and I didn't believe her at first, but now I came to realize she may have saw the earliest fly-by-night TV distribution packages that were around in the early 50's when many cartoons from the silent era had been given second exposure through the television medium. Now it all makes sense to me (she also apparently was a fan of UPA for hooking me up with Mr. Magoo and Gerald McBoing-Boing, as well as the cartoons of the 40's care of the PD VHS tapes that sprang up in the 80's). Not sure what my dad was into, but I can remember the time we were in a hospital and they were playing the one Tex Avery cartoon on the TV, One Cab's Family, and just went off on remembering seeing that in a theater as a tyke.

[Studio Toledo]

Not something I heard live nor is it 100% about animation, but that MadTV actress reaction after Earl Kress mention about being around when TV first started out during one of the commentaries on Tom and Jerry Spotlight vol.2
Honestly, what was Warner thinking about pairing her with Earl? Why not Mr. Beck?


Heck, I'm still scratching my head on why it took so long to cancel that SNL-ripoff?
It was at that point I said to myself, MAD should never leave the pages it was put in. :p

[LooneyFan]

He "bashes" them for being the perfect balance of entertainment??!! With all due respect, your brother-in-law is a moron. :rolleyes:

I remember a friend of mine stating that Hanna Barbera's tv cartoons pre-date the Looney Tunes based solely on the fact that the animation is worse. That's of course just a case of someone stating a thoery as fact without actually doing any research. WAY too many people do this when talking about animation.


He likes to bash them because he thinks it "ticks me off" Not really, though. And he's not really a moron...:(

[Gasmask Ted]

"Heck, I'm still scratching my head on why it took so long to cancel that SNL-ripoff?"

Sketch comedy on a Saturday night does not make something an SNL rip off. OK, maybe it does, but that wasn't what was wrong with the show.

The Rudolph parodies they did make me not completely regret the show's existence. I'm not sure I ever found anything else they did (certainly nothing recurring) very funny. It was horrifying when Comedy Central lost SNL reruns to E! (which doesn't bother showing any episodes not centered on celebutantes or other true hollywood story participants) and replaced them with MadTV about 6 times a day. It really drove home just how bad the show was.

[Cartman]

Back when I was in high school, my sister (who was in middle school at the time) stated that "Grownups don't watch cartoons, except for 'Simpsons' and 'King of the Hill'!" Has she actually interviewed a lot of grownups on the subject?:p

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Back when I was in high school, my sister (who was in middle school at the time) stated that "Grownups don't watch cartoons, except for 'Simpsons' and 'King of the Hill'!" Has she actually interviewed a lot of grownups on the subject?:p

See, my father thinks even these shows are for kids. One time my younger brother and I were watching the Simpsons episode "Homer's Triple Bypass", and my dad walked into the room right before the point where Dr. Nick points at Homer's insides and says "What the hell is that?" My dad was so shocked that they said "Hell" in a cartoon. Even a couple weeks ago when the Nascar race got rained out and they showed reruns of The Simpsons and King of the Hill he got all mad that they were showing cartoons instead of covering the race.

[Fibber Fox]

Two days ago-Saturday night-I was watching "Herr meets Hare" on DVD. My mom was in the room calmly paying some bills. She normally doesn't care about cartoons-nor what I'm watching. However that night during the scene in which Bugs disguises himself as Hitler and Goring imediately changes into his Nazi officer uniform, my mom suddenly remarked "Is that a swashtika? This isn't funny." Mind you we do happen to be Jewish-but mom didn't realize that the cartoon was MAKING FUN of Hitler-she just saw a swashtika and jumped to that conclusion.

That's nothing. Jack Benny once wrote his father walked out a movie house showing To Be or Not To Be when he saw his son in a Nazi uniform. Jack had to explain to his father he was playing a role that was against the Nazis.

F. Fox

[Debbie]

The dumbest comments I've heard about "classic cartoons" are any that include the words "classic" and "G.I. Joe", "Transformers", "Masters of the Universe", or any other half-hour toy commercial show's title in the same sentence.

But to a lot of people, a "classic cartoon" is one that they grew up watching. And in the end, we just need to agree to disagree on some things.

[Gasmask Ted]

Each of those shows has had newer incarnations, which "classic" helps differentiate the original from the newer incarnations.

[Debbie]

I wasn't aware of that, thank you. :shame: It does show, however, that "classic" can mean different things to different people.

[Thad]

Me: "I can't go to LA, people say they'll kill me if I set foot there."
Mom: "WHO?!"
Me: "People that I said that "your work is sheet" to."
Mom: "Who threatened to kill you?"
Me: "Animators."
Mom: "You mean nobodies???"

[Gasmask Ted]

That's not dumb Thad, that's hilariously incisive.

[J. J. Hunsecker]

Me: "I can't go to LA, people say they'll kill me if I set foot there."
Mom: "WHO?!"
Me: "People that I said that "your work is sheet" to."
Mom: "Who threatened to kill you?"
Me: "Animators."
Mom: "You mean nobodies???"
Uh...how is that a dumb comment about classic cartoons? By the way, which animator threatened to kill you? (Also, I doubt they could find you in a city as large as Los Angeles, if you were to set foot there.)

[Thad]

Uh...how is that a dumb comment about classic cartoons? By the way, which animator threatened to kill you? (Also, I doubt they could find you in a city as large as Los Angeles, if you were to set foot there.)

Whoops, me no read thread correct.

Nobody threatened to kill me (unless you count all those lovely blood stained notes I got in the mail from you personally, J.J.) Just quoting a dumb conversation I had about cartoons with someone.

[J. J. Hunsecker]

Whoops, me no read thread correct.

Nobody threatened to kill me (unless you count all those lovely blood stained notes I got in the mail from you personally, J.J.) Just quoting a dumb conversation I had about cartoons with someone.
You are misinterpreting those notes. I always write in blood using a feather crowquill pen, because I'm a traditionalist. In addition to the blood there is sweat and tears. See, they're not threatening, they're a labor of love! Or just plain labor, I forget which.

[Studio Toledo]

See, my father thinks even these shows are for kids. One time my younger brother and I were watching the Simpsons episode "Homer's Triple Bypass", and my dad walked into the room right before the point where Dr. Nick points at Homer's insides and says "What the hell is that?" My dad was so shocked that they said "Hell" in a cartoon. Even a couple weeks ago when the Nascar race got rained out and they showed reruns of The Simpsons and King of the Hill he got all mad that they were showing cartoons instead of covering the race.
Glad my parents grew out of that shock pretty easy and accepted it.

[Studio Toledo]

Me: "I can't go to LA, people say they'll kill me if I set foot there."
Mom: "WHO?!"
Me: "People that I said that "your work is sheet" to."
Mom: "Who threatened to kill you?"
Me: "Animators."
Mom: "You mean nobodies???"
Hahahahaha!

[oceansoul]

Well, for some reason, in my country, cartoons have respect, because we made several cult classics which are widely respected by people here.

Altough that's not the case for american cartoons. As much as people love the best hungarian ones here, they think all american cartoons are about violence, falling anvils, and stupidity.

The "cartoons are for kids" stuff rarely pops up here as an argument, but sadly the exact opposite does. Many here thinks that the violence in America, the school massacres are the result of these violent cartoons, films, americans are dumb because they watch this.

Another thing I don't like, when I talk about "classic cartoons", people start listing their favourites, like this: "Tom and Jerry, Looney Tunes, Flintstones, Wacky Races, Power Rangers, Dexter's Lab, Cow and Chicken, Billy and Mandy" etc.. :rolleyes:

This irritates me very much...

[Cartman]

Power Rangers

LOL! Last time I checked, that show was live action!:p:rolleyes:

[oceansoul]

LOL! Last time I checked, that show was live action!:p:rolleyes:

LOL, yeah. I confused it with Captain Planet. :rolleyes:
That show was quite popular here.

[Thad]

Another thing I don't like, when I talk about "classic cartoons", people start listing their favourites, like this: "Tom and Jerry, Looney Tunes, Flintstones, Wacky Races, Power Rangers, Dexter's Lab, Cow and Chicken, Billy and Mandy" etc.. :rolleyes:

This irritates me very much...


It shouldn't bother you that much. You'll find that everywhere. The word "classic" doesn't really have any meaning anymore, and has been so overused, that it just means mediocrity. Hence messages I get from Warner Home Video that include things like Wait Till Your Father Gets Home, Dastardly & Muttley, Tiny Toons, and Freakazoid as part of their "classic cartoon collection." (OH GOD, MUST BE NICE, BE NICE! LIKE EVERYTHING! :D)

[Daffysleftfoot]

I remember one of my animation teachers telling us about his sister-in-law. Apparently she was the biggest animation hater on the planet. Whenever an animated show was on (the example he gave us was The Flintstones) she'd bark "That's not real, you know. That's fake." He then bestowed upon us the wisdom that "there are some people in this world you will not reach". I think most of the people we've talked about and will talk about in this thread falls under that heading. :rolleyes:

[The "Chase"]

I think most of the people we've talked about and will talk about in this thread falls under that heading. :rolleyes:

Like my sister. She doesn't like cartoons, and she said she prefer mediocre/bad live action movies because "it's more real."

So a drawing can't convey a feeling? Well then, better burn my Disney books...

[Cartman]

Like my sister. She doesn't like cartoons, and she said she prefer mediocre/bad live action movies because "it's more real."

So a drawing can't convey a feeling? Well then, better burn my Disney books...
Another thing I should have added was that my sister back in the past would give me a hard time about watching cartoons like Looney Tunes or classic Disney shorts, but she would watch the Disney animated features and non-Disney animated movies such as An American Tail.

[Bugsy-Kun]

I also find dumb and pathetic the mentallity of some peoples or TV network executives who showed classic cartoons mostly from the 60's, 70's and 80's than the real classic cartoons we love to talking about because for nostalgic reasons more than a historical purpose. That's a thing i stopped after watching the Harveytoons Show DVD last year.

And glad of their arrogance, they prefered some cheap Japanese 70's animations than the Warner Bros. cartoons or Disney shorts.

[Glowworm]

Here's one that's not neccessarily dumb-more cute and naive.
So about Middle School age I was watching an April Fools marathon on CN of nothing but Tex Avery shorts(both Warners and MGM) with a now ex-friend. We were watching "Detouring America" and got to the scene in which a group of "prairie dogs" (actual dogs living in the prairie) eagerly rush towards a big tree-the leader shouting "timber!" My friend then honestly asked me-"What are they going to do with the tree?" Without batting an eye I replied "They're going to pee on it.":D

[Stanislav]

Whenever an animated show was on (the example he gave us was The Flintstones) she'd bark "That's not real, you know. That's fake."

Oh...as if sitcoms, soaps, and cop shows aren't... :rolleyes:

[The Coyote Never Wins]

I think the dumbest thing I've ever heard about classic cartoons was at a school assembly when I was in first grade.

A local fire marshall (I think; my memory is a tad fuzzy) gave us a presentation on why putting your fingers in light sockets and starting fires was a bad idea. And then moved on to a lengthy presentation on why violent cartoons were Bad and Evil, spending a lot of time on the Coyote-Road Runner cartoons, because otherwise we would all have been too stupid to know that people don't usually survive falling hundreds of feet (for our metric-system-using friends, substitute meters) from cliffs and that playing with dynamite is a bad idea.

Apparently he didn't get the memo from all the other cartoon haters that they weren't real. Maybe he had trouble distinguishing fantasy and reality and figured that we would be too dumb to know the difference. (Maybe he should have been working at a Hollywood studio....)

[Mac]

There are a lot of people that just don't like impossible things happening in cartoons and find it stupid and annoying. When I was at college there was a guy who hated films that included anything he found improbable - this included all cartoons and films like Jurassic Park ("because dinosaurs can't just be brought back to life!"). He did really like 'The Blair Witch Project', however. This was because it's a real video that was actually found and all the kids in it are actually dead now – "the video is the proof!"

[LooneyFan]

Oh...as if sitcoms, soaps, and cop shows aren't... :rolleyes:

My friend did that too me too....we would be watching Wile E. Coyote/Road Runner and you know, the coyote would be standing in air over a dropoff. My friend would say that line..."That's fake"
Everytime I thought "JUST ENJOY THE F***ING CARTOON!!!"

[Bugsy-Kun]

My friend did that too me too....we would be watching Wile E. Coyote/Road Runner and you know, the coyote would be standing in air over a dropoff. My friend would say that line..."That's fake"
Everytime I thought "JUST ENJOY THE F***ING CARTOON!!!"

I having also this problem with a friend. Instead, he think video games is much realistic than a hand-drawed cartoon. :rolleyes:

[J. B. Warner]

My sister once told me that she hated the Road Runner and Coyote series because "it's not realistic". (I think that was just an excuse she made up on the spot, though, since she was going through her "I hate everything my brother likes" phase at the time.)

Another example of just plain ignorance: During the last months of 2003, I had rekindled my interest in Warner Bros. animation (due in no small part to the release of Looney Tunes: Back in Action). It was my senior year in high school, and on the day before Christmas vacation, I brought in my well-worn copy of Steve Schneider's "That's All, Folks!" for some light reading. My Economics teacher noticed it and claimed to be a big Looney Tunes fan - then proceeded to mistake Porky Pig for Elmer Fudd on the book's dust jacket. I corrected him, and he said "Oh, right, Porky Pig! 'Eh-b-b-b-what's up, folks?'"

I just shook my head.

[Speedy Boris]

That seven minute cartoons are inferior because they don't contain deep, dramatic, serialized plots. Yes, I've read this.

[Thad]

That seven minute cartoons are inferior because they don't contain deep, dramatic, serialized plots. Yes, I've read this.

They're better because they don't!

[ebrand11]

I've herad quite a bit...

Older Looney Tunes are not as good because there in BLACK AND WHITE!

Yes cartoons are for kids.

New cartoons have a higher standard than they did in the 30s.

Popeye is the only GOOD black and white cartoons.

I only like Looney Tunes from the 50's (unsure which ones were actually made in the 50's)

[warnerbro7]

That seven minute cartoons are inferior because they don't contain deep, dramatic, serialized plots. Yes, I've read this.

my brother said that ALL the time , not to start an "older cartoons are so much better than newer ones" argument but sometimes a classic seven minute cartoon does more than an average fifteen minute cartoon.

my bother gave me all kinds of greif with looney tunes, for instance" that coyote is so stupid ,when he falls off the cliff he should die,this is lame i'd rather watch sponebob"
and my principal who claimed to be a looney tunes picked my Thats all folks: the art of Warner Bros cartoons ( which got me into older warner bros cartoons by the way) picked the book up and pionted to a picture of elmer fudd , his name was right under him and pionted and said proudly" Look its porky pig!!":shame:

[Brandon Panther]

He did really like 'The Blair Witch Project', however. This was because it's a real video that was actually found and all the kids in it are actually dead now – "the video is the proof!"
How does he explain the actors in the film going off on other future film projects?

[kaseykockroach]

That seven minute cartoons are inferior because they don't contain deep, dramatic, serialized plots. Yes, I've read this.
And don't have every single pore and hair animated perfectly.
Anyways, a list of quotes (first one being heard in school).
"Bugs Bunny? Yeah, that was a cool show. Liked how he always said "You know, I wose more putty tats dat way!".
"Kasey, I'm sorry, but kids today don't watch the simplistic cartoons from 30-40 years ago. They want something with a little more meaning, like those Japanese cartoons, or even Spongebob".
"I don't get it, Kasey. Why do you walk into the room when Popeye is on, then leave when your brother asks for Shrek 2? Frankly, I don't see much of a difference".

[StillHowardFein]

Someone responded to an H-B Yippee, Yappee and Yahooey cartoon posted on Youtube by noting how strange it was that the King of the unnamed, presumably Elizabethian-era kingdom speaks with an American accent. Never mind that the titular characters are dogs who also speak American English, and that the characters are seen watching TV and driving cars throughout the series!

With my luck, that person is a regular poster on this forum.

[Mac]

How does he explain the actors in the film going off on other future film projects?

They must have been different people. Different people that just looked like them!

[cartoonfan4ever]

" that coyote is so stupid ,when he falls off the cliff he should die,this is lame i'd rather watch sponebob"

I guess he didn't see the Spongebob episode where Patrick falls off a cliff and survives.

[Glowworm]

I have a friend who enjoys Looney Tunes-but, being a Chemistry Major he keeps commiting the ultimate taboo-questioning the logic of a cartoon. One time we were commenting online about "Horton Hatches the Egg"-he told me that it didn't scientifically work that way for Maizy's child to be born half-elephant and half-bird just because Horton sat on it.:DI wonder if he questioned the book too...

[Cartman]

I guess he didn't see the Spongebob episode where Patrick falls off a cliff and survives.
Also never mind that Mr Krabb's daughter is a whale, who is right around the same size as the crustaceans themselves.

And of course, these undersea creatures all talk.

[The "Chase"]

Also never mind that Mr Krabb's daughter is a whale, who is right around the same size as the crustaceans themselves.

And of course, these undersea creatures all talk.

"Hey, if we are in underwater, how can..."

(fires goes out)

[nickramer]

"Hey, if we are in underwater, how can..."

(fires goes out)

One of my favorite episodes.

[Studio Toledo]

Someone responded to an H-B Yippee, Yappee and Yahooey cartoon posted on Youtube by noting how strange it was that the King of the unnamed, presumably Elizabethian-era kingdom speaks with an American accent. Never mind that the titular characters are dogs who also speak American English, and that the characters are seen watching TV and driving cars throughout the series!

With my luck, that person is a regular poster on this forum.
Well, let's just say this is an alternate universe where America was still under British control and that's probably what the US in the mid 60's was like. :D

[oceansoul]

The biggest problem is IMHO that most people really don't see the difference between a well animated theatrical cartoon and some low-budget primitive TV effort. Or maybe they just don't care.

[Marty26]

The biggest problem is IMHO that most people really don't see the difference between a well animated theatrical cartoon and some low-budget primitive TV effort. Or maybe they just don't care.

Let me put it this way: Once television hit the mainstream, the image associated with cartoons was changed forever. Until then, cartoons were considered to have universal appeal. In fact, in many cases, they were geared more towards adults than children. This is why a lot of them (be it Warner Brothers, Disney, Famous, Fleischer, etc.) contain jokes and references that would go over the heads of most children. They were essentially made with adult moviegoers in mind as "teasers" before movies began.

However, once television became popular, TV producers saw a potentially big market for cartoons among children. And, thus, Saturday Morning cartoons were born. By the 1970's, even adult-oriented cartoons like The Flintstones and Looney Tunes could be seen on children's television. And now, most people lump cartoons in general (barring "animated comedies" like The Simpsons and Family Guy) into the same category as Barney And Friends and Tickle Me Elmo.

[Fibber Fox]

However, once television became popular, TV producers saw a potentially big market for cartoons among children. And, thus, Saturday Morning cartoons were born.

'Saturday morning' strikes me as a later development. In fact, a random check of some TV stations of Saturday, May 3, 1952 found they didn't sign on until at least 10 a.m. Cartoons became kid fare in the early 50s because they were used as filler on live action local kids TV shows on weekdays.

By the late 50s, the perception was strictly "kids only", judging by the number of news stories I keep finding which specifically point out the "surprise" that adults were tuning in to watch Huckleberry Hound.

The biggest problem is IMHO that most people really don't see the difference between a well animated theatrical cartoon and some low-budget primitive TV effort.

Didn't some Disney people look down on the Warners cartoons because they weren't as "well animated"? And didn't McKimson look down on Famous cartoons for the same reason? And didn't UPA.. well, you know where I'm going.

I laugh at Quick Draw McGraw. I don't laugh at a lot of Disney stuff.

F. Fox
http://yowpyowp.blogspot.com

[Marty26]

'Saturday morning' strikes me as a later development. In fact, a random check of some TV stations of Saturday, May 3, 1952 found they didn't sign on until at least 10 a.m. Cartoons became kid fare in the early 50s because they were used as filler on live action local kids TV shows on weekdays.

By the late 50s, the perception was strictly "kids only", judging by the number of news stories I keep finding which specifically point out the "surprise" that adults were tuning in to watch Huckleberry Hound.


What's interesting is that, until then, it seems the line between children's entertainment and adult entertainment was more blurry. For example, a lot of westerns in the 1930's and 1940's were aimed more at children than at adults (even though, today, that sort of thing would be seen as more adult entertainment). You can see this if you watch the classic Porky Pig short The Film Fan. Where a Lone Ranger movie is portrayed as a "Kids' Saturday Morning" event. Talk about a role reversal!

I laugh at Quick Draw McGraw. I don't laugh at a lot of Disney stuff.

I don't think Disney cartoons were ever really intended to be laugh-out-loud funny. They're typically gentle comedies intended to charm and make people smile. Not so much to make them laugh their heads off the way WB and MGM cartoons typically were.

[J. B. Warner]

"Hey, if we are in underwater, how can..."

(fires goes out)

I haven't seen many "SpongeBob" episodes, but that's probably one of my favorite gags of the whole series.

[dandu]

On a Winstar's Cartoons that Time Forgot (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE IMAGE DVDS) on the cover it says that UB Iwerks worked on Van Beuren cartoons!

I myself made a dumb comment when I was 12 that UB Iwerks probably worked on the Van Beuren Tom and Jerry cartoons!

I also remember saying when I was 13 that the black and white Betty Boops were cheap copies of the color ones (1972 colorized versions), I got it bottom about face!

[Cartman]

And now, most people lump cartoons in general (barring "animated comedies" like The Simpsons and Family Guy) into the same category as Barney And Friends and Tickle Me Elmo.
I know. I hate having to look for the classic cartoon DVDs in the same section as "Dora the Explorer" or "Bob the Builder.":mad:

[Brandon Panther]

Here's one that I just remembered. This is when I saw one of the Alvin and the Chipmunk trailers before some movie, and there was a kid sitting behind me who, when Simon first appeared on screen, exclaimed, "That chipmunk is supposed to be like Harry Potter! He's got Harry Potter glasses on!"

[Douglas E.]

"Anything that comes out today is automatically crap!! The only GOOD cartoons were made in the 30's/40's/50's."

-Doug

[Gordan]

S.S.: "My kids don't like Popeye cartoons."
Me: "Why?"
S.S.: "They hated the Robin Williams movie."

Makes perfect sense....

[larriva9/11]

Here's one that I just remembered. This is when I saw one of the Alvin and the Chipmunk trailers before some movie, and there was a kid sitting behind me who, when Simon first appeared on screen, exclaimed, "That chipmunk is supposed to be like Harry Potter! He's got Harry Potter glasses on!"

I'd rather use the Art Linkletter term "darndest" than "dumbest" to describe that one.

[Jon Cooke]

This thread made me remember this story I posted on the old TZ board after returning from a trip to Walt Disney World in 2003:

On the way back to the hotel one night, the driver of the bus was keeping the folks entertained by asking Disney trivia questions. Most of them were fairly easy ones. The kids were enjoying shouting out the answers. Anyway, the guy asks "What was the name of the first character Walt Disney created?"

Of course, everybody guessed Mickey. He said, "No, it was a rabbit."

Some guessed Brer Rabbit and Roger Rabbit. One little girl guessed the Easter Bunny.

The driver's next hint: "It's not a Disney character."

Everybody, of course, guessed Bugs Bunny. To my surprise the next thing I hear was "Right! But do you know what he was called originally? His name was Oswald!"

[Marty26]

This thread made me remember this story I posted on the old TZ board after returning from a trip to Walt Disney World in 2003:

On the way back to the hotel one night, the driver of the bus was keeping the folks entertained by asking Disney trivia questions. Most of them were fairly easy ones. The kids were enjoying shouting out the answers. Anyway, the guy asks "What was the name of the first character Walt Disney created?"

Of course, everybody guessed Mickey. He said, "No, it was a rabbit."

Some guessed Brer Rabbit and Roger Rabbit. One little girl guessed the Easter Bunny.

The driver's next hint: "It's not a Disney character."

Everybody, of course, guessed Bugs Bunny. To my surprise the next thing I hear was "Right! But do you know what he was called originally? His name was Oswald!"

..............................

[Brandon Panther]

I have an old "Hot Dog" magazine from 1990 with an article on Bugs Bunny that seemed to imply that Oswald was the original Bugs Bunny.

[Glowworm]

Not actually a dumb comment-but dumb nonetheless. Cartoon Network used to air "The Chuck Jones Show"-much like the Tex Avery or the Bob Clampett show in which various shorts done by the director were shown-be it Tom and Jerry or classic Looney Tunes. Well one time,I clearly remember the second short shown (It was a half-hour show so three cartoons were shown) was "Gone Batty!" Which is actually a Robert Mckimson short. Somebody goofed!:D

[Jon Cooke]

Not actually a dumb comment-but dumb nonetheless. Cartoon Network used to air "The Chuck Jones Show"-much like the Tex Avery or the Bob Clampett show in which various shorts done by the director were shown-be it Tom and Jerry or classic Looney Tunes. Well one time,I clearly remember the second short shown (It was a half-hour show so three cartoons were shown) was "Gone Batty!" Which is actually a Robert Mckimson short. Somebody goofed!:D

There was also an Chuck Jones Show where CN aired three Bugs/Yosemite Sam shorts. Another time "Buckaroo Bugs" was shown. Obviously, whoever was in charge of picking shorts for that show didn't may much attention. :shame:

[Marty26]

There was also an Chuck Jones Show where CN aired three Bugs/Yosemite Sam shorts. Another time "Buckaroo Bugs" was shown. Obviously, whoever was in charge of picking shorts for that show didn't may much attention. :shame:

Either that or they ran out of cartoon ideas and just picked a bunch of random shorts to fill air time.

[Daffysleftfoot]

I'm not 100% sure if this one applies since it's a Hanna Barbera character. But, here goes.

At one time a cousin of mine thought that Babalooey was a mouse. :o

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

I'm not 100% sure if this one applies since it's a Hanna Barbera character. But, here goes.

At one time a cousin of mine thought that Babalooey was a mouse. :o

Maybe he confused him with Speedy Gonzales??:speedy:

[Glowworm]

I'm not 100% sure if this one applies since it's a Hanna Barbera character. But, here goes.

At one time a cousin of mine thought that Babalooey was a mouse. :o

That reminds me of when I was little, I used to think Calamity Coyote was a rabbit.:rolleyes:

[StillHowardFein]

One night back in the eighties at a revival house that regularly showed summertime vintage cartoon festivals, KNIGHTY-KNIGHT BUGS was screened. An audience member commented that Sir Loin of Beef's objections ("But the Black Knight is invinci-bub-bub-bub-le") "must be where they got the idea for Porky Pig.":p

[Magpie]

I seem to recall a few people NOT understanding that it was a breakthrough of sorts (however brief) to pair Donald and Daffy, Mickey Mouse and Bugs, etc. in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

...something to the effect of... "What do you mean they're from different studios?":confused::confused:

[Emmanuel Cruz]

I sang at a church several months ago, and after my performance, the reverend was speaking, and said that the country was being run so poorly by politicians, and that Tom and Jerry could do a better job running the country.

To my horror, a little boy sitting in front of me asked "Mommy, who is Tom and Jerry?" I had a near heart attack.

I think the fact that the boy not knowing these characters isn't dumb, but sad for the ignorance he has of these characters. The boy was about 5-6 years old. What is dumb is the fact that he isn't aware of the cartoons. I make sure that my 4 year old nephew watches plenty of the good stuff. :)

-EJC

[Ray Pointer]

I remember one of my animation teachers telling us about his sister-in-law. Apparently she was the biggest animation hater on the planet. Whenever an animated show was on (the example he gave us was The Flintstones) she'd bark "That's not real, you know. That's fake." He then bestowed upon us the wisdom that "there are some people in this world you will not reach". I think most of the people we've talked about and will talk about in this thread falls under that heading. :rolleyes:

Such a person has a problem with being grounded in literalism. The only reason why such people voice these comments so loudly is to attempt to foritfy their own insecurity and influence others to believe the way they do. Apparently these people lack a sense of humor, and do not appreciate various forms of art, however you wish this to apply to the animation medium.

But the question is, do they think that live action films are not "fake" also? Just because there is an image of something from reality on the screen, this does not necessarily make it "real" either. The arrangement of images referred to as editing has much to do with how a film is perceived in terms of its message. Also what is place before the camera in terms of the actors performing to a script, their makeup, lighting, blocking, Special Effects, etc. is all arranged and not according to "reality." The saying "the camera never lies" is in fact a lie as well.

[Ray Pointer]

Maybe he confused him with Speedy Gonzales??:speedy:

BABA LOUIE a mouse? He was a burro. Sounds like someone may have spent too much time in the city. What did this person think QUICK DRAW was, a cat?

[Bugsy-Kun]

I seem to recall a few people NOT understanding that it was a breakthrough of sorts (however brief) to pair Donald and Daffy, Mickey Mouse and Bugs, etc. in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

...something to the effect of... "What do you mean they're from different studios?":confused::confused:

I guess a friend of mine on DeviantArt was in this category. She thinks everything is possible with crossover because it's fiction. But luckily, that's don't always work.

[Brandon Panther]

I sang at a church several months ago, and after my performance, the reverend was speaking, and said that the country was being run so poorly by politicians, and that Tom and Jerry could do a better job running the country.

To my horror, a little boy sitting in front of me asked "Mommy, who is Tom and Jerry?" I had a near heart attack.

I think the fact that the boy not knowing these characters isn't dumb, but sad for the ignorance he has of these characters. The boy was about 5-6 years old. What is dumb is the fact that he isn't aware of the cartoons. I make sure that my 4 year old nephew watches plenty of the good stuff. :)

-EJC
Maybe that kid doesn't have Cartoon Network. Or does, and Mommy doesn't let him watch it.

[larriva9/11]

Given the nature of some churchgoers these days, I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Tom & Jerry (or Katy Perry) are sealed off from perception: representatives of a "forbidden" world, especially to ingenuous youngsters...

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Given the nature of some churchgoers these days, I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Tom & Jerry (or Katy Perry) are sealed off from perception: representatives of a "forbidden" world, especially to ingenuous youngsters...

Don't get me started on Katy Perry! You try looking for Steve Perry's album Street Talk and all you end up finding is Katy Perry's terrible albums. SHEESH!

[Bugsy-Kun]

Someone on DA told me that cartoon don't need of perfect anatomy skills when in fact it's wrong. Cartoon is a primitive art maybe but they takes discipline and maturity for make flawless and you sure understand the anatomy skills for controlled your characters for moved them naturally. It's why characters like Bugs Bunny, Tweety, Heckle and Jeckle, Woody Woodpecker, Popeye and others staying memorable these days from many peoples. (Mostly the baby-boomers)

This girl needs to have a better informations about cartoons instead to bashing for her own needs. But that's the mentallity of too much peoples on DA. (Except for some peoples who i admire and like)

[Daffysleftfoot]

Hey, remember that crazy Iranian university professor who taught his students that Tom & Jerry was a Zionist conspiracy from the Walt Disney company bent on making Jewish people look adorable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40VFcJTIduw)? I do. :rolleyes:

[Douglas E.]

Hey, remember that crazy Iranian university professor who taught his students that Tom & Jerry was a Zionist conspiracy from the Walt Disney company bent on making Jewish people look adorable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40VFcJTIduw)? I do. :rolleyes:
Say What?

-Doug

[cartoonfan4ever]

Hey, remember that crazy Iranian university professor who taught his students that Tom & Jerry was a Zionist conspiracy from the Walt Disney company bent on making Jewish people look adorable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40VFcJTIduw)? I do. :rolleyes:

I sure do. I read about it but this was the first time I saw it on video.

[LocoCrow]

I've heard lots of things about classic cartoons.
For one, I said "classic cartoon" in front of somebody, and he said: "Dude, yeah, Ben 10 is classic!"
Plus, I had a drawing of Sylvester and Tweety and he said, "I love Tom and Jerry!"
:shame:

[Bugsy-Kun]

I've heard lots of things about classic cartoons.
For one, I said "classic cartoon" in front of somebody, and he said: "Dude, yeah, Ben 10 is classic!"
Plus, I had a drawing of Sylvester and Tweety and he said, "I love Tom and Jerry!"
:shame:

Since when Ben 10 is a classic? :shame:
Classic is a word hard to definate these days. In fact, that's know which deserve to be classics. But too many peoples from Toonzone, TV.com or DA needs to have a maturity degree level for know such classic films like Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon or To Have and Have Not. *double :shame:*

[Cartman]

Since when Ben 10 is a classic? :shame:
*
What is Ben 10?:confused:

[J. B. Warner]

What is Ben 10?:confused:

It's an action show on Cartoon Network, part of the "it looks like anime but it's not" genre.

[Bugsy-Kun]

What is Ben 10?:confused:

It's a cartoon told of Ben, a boy who can transform into 10 monsters with a watch stuff. They have also Ben 10: Alien Force, a teenager version of the franchise. It's maybe a popular show but not to be a classic unlike someone says.

And like J.B. Warner says, this show was from the American Anime prototype a la Teen Titans.

Hope that's help you now Cartman. :cool:

[Cartman]

Thanks for the info, Bugsy-Kun and JB.

[Matthew Hunter]

Given the nature of some churchgoers these days, I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Tom & Jerry (or Katy Perry) are sealed off from perception: representatives of a "forbidden" world, especially to ingenuous youngsters...

Sadly, there are some parents who, rather than giving their kids the freedom to choose their entertainment based on the morals and common sense they've been given, won't allow them to watch anything besides those "Veggie Tales" videos. I can understand wanting to give your kids a moral Christian upbringing, but there's something a little "off" about a kid who doesn't like Tom and Jerry, or at least know who they ARE.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Sadly, there are some parents who, rather than giving their kids the freedom to choose their entertainment based on the morals and common sense they've been given, won't allow them to watch anything besides those "Veggie Tales" videos. I can understand wanting to give your kids a moral Christian upbringing, but there's something a little "off" about a kid who doesn't like Tom and Jerry, or at least know who they ARE.

I knew plenty of kids that couldn't watch certain shows. One that I specifically remember was a kid who couldn't watch Hey Arnold! because Helga says "what is this crap!" in one episode.

[Glowworm]

I knew plenty of kids that couldn't watch certain shows. One that I specifically remember was a kid who couldn't watch Hey Arnold! because Helga says "what is this crap!" in one episode.
One of my friends told me that when he was little, his parents wouldn't allow him to watch Ren and Stimpy. Somehow-I was allowed to.:D

[Mr. Semaj]

There has been some discussion in some Family Guy circles about how the show is an animated "sketch comedy".

Aside from the flashbacks and cutaways, FG is still at its core an animated sitcom. And there are other cartoons out there where the term "sketch comedy" is more appropriate and in which case, they've been around far longer than FG.

I just don't get how people are now billing FG as an innovation just because of its newfound popularity.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Sadly, there are some parents who, rather than giving their kids the freedom to choose their entertainment based on the morals and common sense they've been given, won't allow them to watch anything besides those "Veggie Tales" videos. I can understand wanting to give your kids a moral Christian upbringing, but there's something a little "off" about a kid who doesn't like Tom and Jerry, or at least know who they ARE.

You know, now that I think about it, all through middle and high school we had cable TV in all of the classrooms, and there would be times when our teachers would let us watch Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network and we would see Spongebob, Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, and, yes, Tom And Jerry( I specifically remember watching Flirty Birdy once in Earth Science.) There were even times when we would watch shows like The A-Team or the Police Chases on Spike. But, ironically enough, the one show we weren't allowed to watch was The Veggie Tales, mainly due to the referances to God.:D

[Cartman]

I knew plenty of kids that couldn't watch certain shows. One that I specifically remember was a kid who couldn't watch Hey Arnold! because Helga says "what is this crap!" in one episode.
Ya know, the word "crap" isn't really that bad of a word. I use it all the time when describing something I don't like (e.g. No one should have to put up with that guy's crap!).

[cbrubaker]

The word was also used in one of the Games "Ren & Stimpy" (Stimpy's Cartoon Show), where the duo meets Wilbur Cobb. During his bizarre, nonsensical rant, Wilbur sputtered "a bunch of...a bunch of...", before Stimpy says "uh, crap?"

Makes me wonder what those parents would've thought of "Rocko's Modern Life" (according to the creator (http://joemurraystudio.com/blog/?p=1072#comments), the show was mostly being watched by the 19-30 year old demographic, despite being marketed to children)

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Ya know, the word "crap" isn't really that bad of a word. I use it all the time when describing something I don't like (e.g. No one should have to put up with that guy's crap!).

Oh yeah? Ok, I'll do you one better. When I was in the 7th grade we had a teacher named Mrs. Peterson that told us that the phrase "shut up" was a "cookie phrase." What is a "cookie phrase," you ask? Well, whenever someone would get caught saying "shut up," the next day we would be required to bring in cookies for the whole class for punishment. Pretty embarrassing, isn't it?

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

The word was also used in one of the Games "Ren & Stimpy" (Stimpy's Cartoon Show), where the duo meets Wilbur Cobb. During his bizarre, nonsensical rant, Wilbur sputtered "a bunch of...a bunch of...", before Stimpy says "uh, crap?"



That's funny, because Hey Arnold! was also produced by Games Animation.

[Bugsy-Kun]

The word was also used in one of the Games "Ren & Stimpy" (Stimpy's Cartoon Show), where the duo meets Wilbur Cobb. During his bizarre, nonsensical rant, Wilbur sputtered "a bunch of...a bunch of...", before Stimpy says "uh, crap?"


Too bad the french version of this cartoon ruinning this gag rant into a much generic one. Shame on them! :shame:

[Gasmask Ted]

"Bunch of crap" _is_ generic in English.

[Brandon Panther]

Oh yeah? Ok, I'll do you one better. When I was in the 7th grade we had a teacher named Mrs. Peterson that told us that the phrase "shut up" was a "cookie phrase." What is a "cookie phrase," you ask? Well, whenever someone would get caught saying "shut up," the next day we would be required to bring in cookies for the whole class for punishment. Pretty embarrassing, isn't it?
I'm reminded of the one Dilbert comic where The Boss tells his employees that those who miss meetings from now on have to bring donuts to the next one. Immediately, Dilbert, Wally, Alice, and Asok leave. The Boss sits there thinking, "Did I just sell them their freedom for donuts?"

[Bugsy-Kun]

"Bunch of crap" _is_ generic in English.

I didn't know that but it's true that the word crap lose their sense when it used a thousand of times in the same TV show.

[nickramer]

Another comment I found dumb is someone at a school not likeing the color of Bullwinkle because "he looks like crap".
Umm.. Mooses are supposed to be brown and if someone can find a better drawing of a stylized moose, I'll give that person a Franklin.

[Gasmask Ted]

Not that I dislike Bullwinkle. but, here's a better stylized moose:
http://tinyurl.com/oufzkb

[nickramer]

And here's your Franklin:
http://www.kindredlearning.net/Images/ben-and-me.jpg

[Gasmask Ted]

I'm just pleased it's not a horrible sex act...

[nickramer]

I'm just pleased it's not a horrible sex act...
Well, I was going to use a still from Disney's animation adaption, but this was one of the first images to come up on Google under "Ben and me", so I just used that.

Heck, I never knew about this sex thing. Nor am I intrested.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

I don't know how much this counts, but I'm currently in an argument with a poster over a Toon Zone who called The Roadrunner a "quick-striding ostrich." I proceeded to tell him roadrunners are indeed not ostriches, but a type of cuckoo.

[Glowworm]

In my freshman year at college,I was explaining to my friends that Gargamel originally created Smurfette in order to lure the smurfs into his clutches. A friend of mine then told me that Gargamel actually created all of them. I then inquired that if Gargamel did create them why he was trying to eat them. According to him,Gargamel was trying to create a new food product.:D

Needless to say I was terribly confused and the Big Cartoon Database Forum cleared me up on it.

[Daffysleftfoot]

In my freshman year at college,I was explaining to my friends that Gargamel originally created Smurfette in order to lure the smurfs into his clutches. A friend of mine then told me that Gargamel actually created all of them. I then inquired that if Gargamel did create them why he was trying to eat them. According to him,Gargamel was trying to create a new food product.:D

Needless to say I was terribly confused and the Big Cartoon Database Forum cleared me up on it.

Doesn't Gargamel just want to turn the Smurfs into gold? I believe he has a wizard's recipe for gold inwhich Smurfs are the prime ingredient.

Anyway, I remember reading a movie critic's review of Finding Nemo once. (I know Finding Nemo is not in the classic animation category, but nonetheless the statement made is equally as stupid as any other examples here). I forget the critic's name, which I guess is good because his identity should be protected. He said of Nemo, "Yeah, I guess it's pretty good, but I just can't get into dialogue not spoken by humans".

And the (non-fatal) Darwin Award goes to........... :rolleyes:

[Glowworm]

Doesn't Gargamel just want to turn the Smurfs into gold? I believe he has a wizard's recipe for gold inwhich Smurfs are the prime ingredient.


Gargamel's motives were never made clear. Sometimes he was trying to turn them into gold-other times he was definately trying to eat them. I remember him once putting Clumsy in a sandwitch-fortunately Handy saved him. I also remember "A float full of Smurfs" in which Gargamel disguised as a bunny is singing "Oh I'll boil a few and fry a few and serve a few up cold...and turn the rest to gold." or something like that.

[HorseFeathers]

A sister of mine told me this week that the Screen Gems (Columbia) cartoons from the mid-1940s were probably made by the same artists that made Terrytoons.

A big laugh, considering that the SG cartoons were made in Hollywood while Terrytoons (which were released theatrically by Twentieth Century-Fox) were made in New Rochelle, New York.

[Cartman]

While in college, I overheard a fellow art student say that Felix the Cat was a "cartoon character from the 60's."

[Bugsy-Kun]

A friend of mine today told me that she wants to be a animator because for the cool shows and anime. I wonder which cool shows? And did she show respects for the animators? It's sad because peoples wants to be animators these days because they see bizarre poses in Family Guy and in The Simpsons instead to the classic cartoons.

[The "Chase"]

A friend of mine today told me that she wants to be a animator because for the cool shows and anime. I wonder which cool shows? And did she show respects for the animators? It's sad because peoples wants to be animators these days because they see bizarre poses in Family Guy and in The Simpsons instead to the classic cartoons.

I don't think that's a stupid comment. In her defense, there are "cool" anime and American shows around, and if you look hard, there are some "cool" poses in The Simpsons (Family Guy, you have to dig REALLY hard). Classic animation isn't the only thing that can inspired people to go into animation you know. Yes, it's disappointing she isn't looking into them and figuring out why she likes them, possibly looking into classic animation, and thinking about the artists, but it's not depressing.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

I don't think that's a stupid comment. In her defense, there are "cool" anime and American shows around, and if you look hard, there are some "cool" poses in The Simpsons (Family Guy, you have to dig REALLY hard). Classic animation isn't the only thing that can inspired people to go into animation you know. Yes, it's disappointing she isn't looking into them and figuring out why she likes them, possibly looking into classic animation, and thinking about the artists, but it's not depressing.

Yeah, you should see some of those poses from The Simpsons Shorts that tristar posted in the Water Cooler. Some of those poses were downright creepy. Granted, that was more than 20 years ago.

http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showthread.php?t=13262&page=5

[J. J. Hunsecker]

Yeah, you should see some of those poses from The Simpsons Shorts that tristar posted in the Water Cooler. Some of those poses were downright creepy. Granted, that was more than 20 years ago.

http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showthread.php?t=13262&page=5
We all know that those funny drawings from The Tracey Ullman Show Simpsons interstitials would never be allowed on The Simpsons today. (in fact, in wasn't even allowed on the show 15 years ago.) Matt Groening hated that stuff! That's why none of the shorts ended up on The Simpsons DVDs as extras.

[Speedy Boris]

Oh here's another one: That Looney Tunes are old-fashioned simply because the slapstick doesn't involve blood and gore. Yes, I have also read this.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

We all know that those funny drawings from The Tracey Ullman Show Simpsons interstitials would never be allowed on The Simpsons today. (in fact, in wasn't even allowed on the show 15 years ago.) Matt Groening hated that stuff! That's why none of the shorts ended up on The Simpsons DVDs as extras.

The first short, Good Night, was on the first season boxset, but other than that yeah, there is an amazing gap for those shorts on DVD. Matt said the shorts would be available on mobile phones, but I don't know if that has happened or why you would want to watch the shorts on your phone.

[CueBallCat79]

Oh here's another one: That Looney Tunes are old-fashioned simply because the slapstick doesn't involve blood and gore. Yes, I have also read this.

What anime fan told you that? ;)

[Speedy Boris]

What anime fan told you that? ;) It was actually someone who was comparing the LT shorts to something modern like Family Guy. This person said that because FG's comic violence is edgier, that LT looks pale and tame by comparison. As if comic violence is the only thing that LT has going for it, or that bloody automatically equals funnier. :rolleyes:

[Bugsy-Kun]

I don't think that's a stupid comment. In her defense, there are "cool" anime and American shows around, and if you look hard, there are some "cool" poses in The Simpsons (Family Guy, you have to dig REALLY hard). Classic animation isn't the only thing that can inspired people to go into animation you know. Yes, it's disappointing she isn't looking into them and figuring out why she likes them, possibly looking into classic animation, and thinking about the artists, but it's not depressing.

The problem is today, the standard Anime is aimed at a simply audience type: Teenagers. It's why every teenagers think it's cool until they grow up and being active in the society. And that's show their pervert side in comic-books. Miyazaki's Anime films never forced to be just a teenager entertainment and it was aimed at a Mature Audience, but to each his own i guess.

Oh here's another one: That Looney Tunes are old-fashioned simply because the slapstick doesn't involve blood and gore. Yes, I have also read this.

I know many peoples will told that because they think it's saturday morning shows unfortunately.

[larriva9/11]

It was actually someone who was comparing the LT shorts to something modern like Family Guy. This person said that because FG's comic violence is edgier, that LT looks pale and tame by comparison. As if comic violence is the only thing that LT has going for it, or that bloody automatically equals funnier. :rolleyes:


I suppose, then, that if Elmer Fudd ever comes to saying "ohhhh, cwap", they'll be satisfied:befuddled

[cbrubaker]

Just show that clip of Porky saying "Son of a gun. You thought I was going to say son of a..."

They should be satisfied, then. :D

[Mr. Semaj]

While in college, I overheard a fellow art student say that Felix the Cat was a "cartoon character from the 60's."

He was obviously referring to Oriolo's version.

[The "Chase"]

The problem is today, the standard Anime is aimed at a simply audience type: Teenagers. It's why every teenagers think it's cool until they grow up and being active in the society. And that's show their pervert side in comic-books. Miyazaki's Anime films never forced to be just a teenager entertainment and it was aimed at a Mature Audience, but to each his own i guess.

Wha? As far as I'm aware, yes, they're anime that's aimed for teenagers, but they're also anime aimed for children (Pokemon), adults (Berserk), anyone. In fact, there's some anime that we think was aimed for one crowd, but it wasn't. For instance, look at Sailor Moon. We teenagers/young adults eat that show up (at least, what's left of us), yet, from what I've read and heard, it was aimed for children, like 1st to 3rd graders.

Also, Miyazaki's stuff aimed for a mature audience? Then how come his name is on films like "Kiki's Delivery Service" and "My Neighbor Totoro"?

And why are we blaming anime for the teens? That's like blaming video games for making teenagers go on a murdering spree! Besides, who cares and what's wrong with free spited teenagers?

Anywho, better get back on topic before this gets ugly. Let's see. Well, I could mention that there's people out there who believe Bob Clampett created Sylvester and Yosemite Sam for some reason.

Instead, I'll tell you guys something that happened to me on Youtube once (BTW, this is off topic (and I apologized), so you can stop reading this now). You see, I remember an argument I had with someone over the quality of SM on Youtube (not that long story), and one time, I brought up The Simpsons, and while I don't remember what that person exactly said (it's there for posterity though), I remember that person said I was stupid for liking that show becuase the characters were yellow.

Yep, that's just one example of the Youtube community folks...

[Brandon Panther]

they're also anime aimed for children (Pokemon)
Keep in mind though, the original Japnaese version of Pokemon was a tad more adult. The show was merely toned down for American versions.
there's people out there who believe Bob Clampett created Sylvester and Yosemite Sam for some reason.
That's because Clampett himself took credit for those characters, or at least implied he contributed to their creations. For example, with Yosemite Sam, he claimed Red Hot Ryder served as a prototype for Sam, which I find unlikely.

Instead, I'll tell you guys something that happened to me on Youtube once (BTW, this is off topic (and I apologized), so you can stop reading this now). You see, I remember an argument I had with someone over the quality of SM on Youtube (not that long story), and one time, I brought up The Simpsons, and while I don't remember what that person exactly said (it's there for posterity though), I remember that person said I was stupid for liking that show becuase the characters were yellow.

Yep, that's just one example of the Youtube community folks...
Racist bastards! :p

[cbrubaker]

Keep in mind though, the original Japnaese version of Pokemon was a tad more adult.
Japan's standards towards kid shows is more lax compared to America. I know because I grew up in that country.

"Shin Chan", for example, is a kids show in Japan, despite airing on [adult swim] in US.

But I'm getting too OT.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Keep in mind though, the original Japnaese version of Pokemon was a tad more adult. The show was merely toned down for American versions.


Yeah, there was an episode that showed James wearing an inflatable bra that was skipped in the English dub. It later appeared on Kids WB two years after it should have as a special episode, but the scenes with the bra were cut. The episode has never been shown on TV or released on DVD since.

[kaseykockroach]

Just show that clip of Porky saying "Son of a gun. You thought I was going to say son of a..."

They should be satisfied, then. :D
I've shown that clip many times to FG and Simpsons fans who thought the same thing. One poster's reaction: "I demand you show me something exactly like that, only with Tweety".
Suprisingly, I was able to respond by showing him "Rebel Without Claws". Needless to say, he ceased to argue with me after that. :D
Anyways, another comment I've located, in a video game forum no less: "I never really liked the Looney Tunes, Buster and Babs in particular".

[Bugsy-Kun]

children (Pokemon)


Like Brandon said, this show towards a much adult content in their original airings than the version seen in Europe and North America. Three or four episodes was even banned for sexual references (it was aired in US but heavily edited tough), violence, the famous epilepsy crisis and even... racist. And for unkown reasons, some scenes was even shortened and re-edited in some existing episodes. (Remember how a donut replaced the original rice bowl in the American version? Lol)


Also, Miyazaki's stuff aimed for a mature audience? Then how come his name is on films like "Kiki's Delivery Service" and "My Neighbor Totoro"?

Did you ever heard of Princess Mononoke or Howl's Moving Castle? Those films wasn't make Miyazaki a great filmmaker for nothing.

[J. B. Warner]

Keep in mind though, the original Japnaese version of Pokemon was a tad more adult. The show was merely toned down for American versions.

Yeah, but at its heart, it's still a kids' show. Contrary to what most people suspect, the Japanese version isn't full of sex jokes and profanity, though the writing is a little better - it doesn't talk down to its audience the way the American version tends to.

[Daffysleftfoot]

"I never really liked the Looney Tunes, Buster and Babs in particular".

Ha ha! I read something similar to that on a forum once. He said "I never liked Looney Tunes. I always preferred the Animaniacs." Which is tantamount to saying "I never liked that Pearl Jam, I always preferred Creed". :rolleyes:

[Marty26]

Ha ha! I read something similar to that on a forum once. He said "I never liked Looney Tunes. I always preferred the Animaniacs." Which is tantamount to saying "I never liked that Pearl Jam, I always preferred Creed". :rolleyes:

LOL. That reminds me of when, on an old Nickelodeon gameshow (either Nick Arcade or Get The Picture), one of the contestants was asked to give the name of the "black duck that appeared in many Looney Tunes shorts." Her response? Plucky Duck!!! :befuddled

[looneytooney]

It's not a DUMB thing, more of a cute thing.

One morning, I was watching the cartoon 'Devil May Hare', and I paused the scene where Bugs interacts with a Bambi-esque deer because my 2 year old baby sister was coming in. She wanted to hang out and she looked on the TV, and she said, "There's Bambi...and Thumper!" since she loves 'Bambi'. I was incredulous, "Where do you see -" Then I saw it because Bugs is gray like Thumper and there is a deer who looks like Bambi near him. I laughed a little after that.

[Glowworm]

It's not a DUMB thing, more of a cute thing.

One morning, I was watching the cartoon 'Devil May Hare', and I paused the scene where Bugs interacts with a Bambi-esque deer because my 2 year old baby sister was coming in. She wanted to hang out and she looked on the TV, and she said, "There's Bambi...and Thumper!" since she loves 'Bambi'. I was incredulous, "Where do you see -" Then I saw it because Bugs is gray like Thumper and there is a deer who looks like Bambi near him. I laughed a little after that.

That's absolutely adorable and isn't dumb at all as your little sister is still small and learning.

There is something that somewhat puzzles me-and I've gotten this question a lot. I own a Pussyfoot t-shirt that has the little guy on the front and back and the words "Good Kitty" on the front and on the back-"Gone Bad" I've had this shirt for countless years, and people have constantly asked me if the kitten on the shirt is Penelope-also known as "the little cat Pepe chases." I know that both are black and white cats-but Penelope is a full grown cat,lacks blue eyes and does not have a white tip on her tail.(a white stripe on the other hand...)I have to constantly explain that the cat was another creation of Chuck Jones.
The last time this happened to me was several weeks ago in a comic book shop. A fellow customer liked my shirt-and asked if it was Penelope. However he immediately understood who I was talking about once I explained that the cat was from "Feed the Kitty":D

[Brandon Panther]

That's absolutely adorable and isn't dumb at all as your little sister is still small and learning.

There is something that somewhat puzzles me-and I've gotten this question a lot. I own a Pussyfoot t-shirt that has the little guy on the front and back and the words "Good Kitty" on the front and on the back-"Gone Bad" I've had this shirt for countless years, and people have constantly asked me if the kitten on the shirt is Penelope-also known as "the little cat Pepe chases." I know that both are black and white cats-but Penelope is a full grown cat,lacks blue eyes and does not have a white tip on her tail.(a white stripe on the other hand...)I have to constantly explain that the cat was another creation of Chuck Jones.
The last time this happened to me was several weeks ago in a comic book shop. A fellow customer liked my shirt-and asked if it was Penelope. However he immediately understood who I was talking about once I explained that the cat was from "Feed the Kitty":D
That's still better than people referring to Pussyfoot as female.

[Douglas E.]

Anywho, better get back on topic before this gets ugly. Let's see. Well, I could mention that there's people out there who believe Bob Clampett created Sylvester and Yosemite Sam for some reason.


Wait, is John K. still spreading around that lie? :p

-Doug

[Glowworm]

That's still better than people referring to Pussyfoot as female.
I think that's why Pussyfoot is seen on teenage girl t-shirts to begin with.:rolleyes:

[larriva9/11]

I think that's why Pussyfoot is seen on teenage girl t-shirts to begin with.:rolleyes:


Or not just t-shirts, if "Pussyfoot" can be spun into a synonym for "cameltoe"

[Brandon Panther]

I think that's why Pussyfoot is seen on teenage girl t-shirts to begin with.:rolleyes:
I've heard a few girls refer to the Pink Panther as a "she" just because the Panther has been put on more female shirts than males.

[looneytooney]

That's absolutely adorable and isn't dumb at all as your little sister is still small and learning.


Uh, my first sentence was "It's not a DUMB thing, it's cute." I'd be a monster if I said that's dumb. I was actually laughing at that.

[nickramer]

I have to admit, I used to think Pussyfoot was female until I watched "Kiss Me Cat" again when it was released on Golden Collection Vol. 4 and heard the owners refering to the cat as a him.

[Matt the Y]

Uh, my first sentence was "It's not a DUMB thing, it's cute." I'd be a monster if I said that's dumb. I was actually laughing at that.

I think she was actually verifying and agreeing with you on it not being dumb when she responded to that. ;)

[looneytooney]

*heel*

[Mark McNeil]

I used to wear a Mighty Mouse T-shirt. Every time I would wear it, someone would say something like "Hey, you're wearing a Mickey Mouse shirt".

To put a positive spin on that, at least they were being being friendly to me.

[Matt the Y]

*heel*

It's OK; I have communication misunderstanding problems as well so I can relate.

[Stanislav]

I have to admit, I used to think Pussyfoot was female until I watched "Kiss Me Cat" again when it was released on Golden Collection Vol. 4 and heard the owners refering to the cat as a him.

In the real world, there is a tendency (based on differences in personality and behavior) to think of cats as "feminine" and dogs as "masculine," regardless of actual physical gender. Thus, the confusion. It doesn't help that Pussyfoot was designed to look more stereotypically female than male (big eyes, eyelashes, etc.).

[larriva9/11]

Though Sylvester's never registered as anything but male.

I think with Pussyfoot, it's much the same as with Tweety: the "stereotypically infant" qualities could just as well overlap with "stereotypically female".

[J. J. Hunsecker]

Though Sylvester's never registered as anything but male.

I think with Pussyfoot, it's much the same as with Tweety: the "stereotypically infant" qualities could just as well overlap with "stereotypically female".
Plus the fact that Carl Stalling used "Aint She Sweet" for Pussyfoot's theme in Feed the Kitty.

[Stanislav]

Though Sylvester's never registered as anything but male.

Yes, but Sylvester from the start had a male name, voice, etc., so there's nothing to be confused about. (And most cartoon characters historically are male.) But with Pussyfoot, we have a more "generic," voiceless (except for meows) non-anthropomorphic kitten walking on four legs with cute eyes, acting coy and affectionate, and the automatic tendency is to think "girl," as with real-life cats.

[nickramer]

Yes, but Sylvester from the start had a male name, voice, etc., so there's nothing to be confused about. (And most cartoon characters historically are male.) But with Pussyfoot, we have a more "generic," voiceless (except for meows) non-anthropomorphic kitten walking on four legs with cute eyes, acting coy and affectionate, and the automatic tendency is to think "girl," as with real-life cats.
He was briefly a "mother" in "Crowing Pains" (1947). ;)

[Bugsy-Kun]

Other dumb comment i meeting during my entire life about classic cartoons. Some peoples claimed at the 80's-90's that Bugs Bunny is a blue rabbit. Not because of the Tiny Toons reincarnations but because of the quality print of the films. I remember seeing some horrible prints of classic cartoons where the colors goes wrong. (Not only in PD tapes, but also to the official tapes) Even Kid Cartoons/MonteVideo made a PD Bugs Bunny VHS where Bugs is blue. :eek:

Some peoples should revised their statements about animations. Fortunately, we're privilegised to see our favorite cartoons with correct colors today. Just don't abuse of the dark colors, please!

[larriva9/11]

Yes, but Sylvester from the start had a male name, voice, etc., so there's nothing to be confused about. (And most cartoon characters historically are male.) But with Pussyfoot, we have a more "generic," voiceless (except for meows) non-anthropomorphic kitten walking on four legs with cute eyes, acting coy and affectionate, and the automatic tendency is to think "girl," as with real-life cats.

With infantilism comes androgyny, I suppose.

I even find something borderline "femaleish" about Dodsworth's cross-eyed kitten understudy, even if he speaks with a pipsqueak male voice at the end of "Kiddin' The Kitten"...

[Glowworm]

With infantilism comes androgyny, I suppose.

I even find something borderline "femaleish" about Dodsworth's cross-eyed kitten understudy, even if he speaks with a pipsqueak male voice at the end of "Kiddin' The Kitten"...
Could it be-his bow?;)