Favorite Jekyll & Hyde Cartoon?

[kaseykockroach]

Title says it all (let me know if I missed any good ones, though).
My vote goes to Hyde and Go Tweet. Second place, Mr Mouse.

[Gasmask Ted]

You missed the Inspector cartoon "Sicque! Sicque! Sicque!"

[Ray Pointer]

While DR. JECKLE AND MR. MOUSE is my favorite, I'd like to add the MIGHTY MOUSE cartoon, THE JECKLE AND HYDE CAT.

[Kevin McCorry]

Should we not also include all character-grows-strong cartoons, seeing as "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Mouse" has already been included? Personally, I don't think they're in the same league with the cartoons set in a bona-fide laboratory with repeat transformations from the first formula dose, hideous or monstrous distortions of a character's features and/or complexion, and unnerving changing of the personality. But there you go.

And the cartoon with Sylvester and the two dogs is "Dr. Jerkyl's Hide". The only attempt by Friz in his 3 unsung J&H cartoons to parody the physician-chemist's name.

[LooneyFan]

Mehh....Im a tie between Hyde and Hare and Dr. Jeckle's Hide.

I like Bugs rampaging and screaming through every door and his one liner "You, are a men-tal case"

But, like always, I seeing Sylvester win (and winning as gruesome beast is a topper)

Ill go with Hyde and Hare.

[oceansoul]

Hyde and Go Tweet easily. It's a top5 Tweety short IMO.

[A. Flea]

Case of the Stuttering Pig anyone? It's a Tashlin great, and a preety spooky cartoon.

[jonmayo15]

Case of the Stuttering Pig anyone? It's a Tashlin great, and a preety spooky cartoon.
Yeah that's my favorite "transformation" short.

[Glowworm]

I'm torn between "Hyde and Go Tweet" and "Hyde and Hare"

"Hyde and Go Tweet" is absolutely amazing-the best line in there is "What? No Ketchup?" You feel great sympathy for Sylvester throughout the entire cartoon as he flees in fright from the hideous monster Tweety.

Yet "Hyde and Hare" is also great-yet unusual as Bugs displays a disturbingly human side to him-unlike most of his cartoons in which he is cool, calm and collective. Bugs actually flees in terror and attempts to hide from the Hyde monster-perhaps proof that even the most heroic and brave characters can have their embaressing moments.

[oceansoul]

Case of the Stuttering Pig anyone? It's a Tashlin great, and a preety spooky cartoon.

Uh, that's an ugly cartoon. I hate how the pigs were dressed and designed there, and couldn't look over this issue to enjoy the film.

[nickramer]

I'm pretty much in the minority here, but I like "The Impatient Patient" where Daffy is a messanger who gets the hiccups while trying to deliver a telagram to "Cloyie" and meets Dr. "Cloyie" Jerkel.

[Marty26]

Uh, that's an ugly cartoon. I hate how the pigs were dressed and designed there, and couldn't look over this issue to enjoy the film.

GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FELT THIS WAY!!!!! This is especially sad because, otherwise, it's actually a pretty decent cartoon.

[Thad]

Hyde and Go Tweet is easily the best Jekyll and Hyde cartoon ever made. There's some truly terrifyingly staged scenes in that cartoon. Case of the Stuttering Pig is also equally wonderful for the same reasons. And I love the designs and animation in that cartoon! Tashlin was definitely the most daring in his character designs and layouts during this period (only Jones would succeed him, and that was much later).

Hyde and Hare is pretty funny, but it has some really sloppy animation. Dr. Jerkyl's Hyde isn't that good and was done better earlier as Tree for Two (I do like Chester forcing Alfie in by gunpoint though). I don't see what's so remarkable about the Tom & Jerry entry and agree with Kevin on questioning its inclusion.

I agree with Ray on Jekyll and Hyde Cat too.

[jonmayo15]

I like "Case of the Stuttering Pig" and "The Impatient Patient" best. I have a thing for scary shorts in black and white.

[Dirty Skunk]

I love Hyde and Go Tweet. Why it never ended up on a Looney Tunes Golden Collection is beyond me - surely it's one of the best/most fondly-remembered Looney Tunes cartoons of all time, or is that only in my opinion?

I also love Dr Jekyll and Mr Mouse. Some stunning animation there and an enjoyable storyline. Loved it when Jerry continually had the upper hand. The bit where Tom's mixing the elixir together, the backgrounds and haunting music, very creepy stuff - just the right atmosphere for all that.

[Glowworm]

I love Hyde and Go Tweet. Why it never ended up on a Looney Tunes Golden Collection is beyond me - surely it's one of the best/most fondly-remembered Looney Tunes cartoons of all time, or is that only in my opinion?


Nah-I also believe this one is truely fondly remembered-and one of the best-Although I honestly did end up voting for "Hyde and Hare"

"The Case of the Stuttering Pig" is excellent-although I understand the plot much better as an adult-the best part is the "guy in the thoid role":D

To be honest-I've never been big on "Dr.Jekyyl and Mr.Mouse"-always did find it rather creepy though.

"Sique!Sique!Sique!" is fun and easily one of my favorite Inspector shorts-very reminicent of "Hyde and Hare" in places.

[Matt the Y]

"The Case of the Stuttering Pig". I'm a Tashlin nut and this is easily one of the best of his 1930's shorts. And, yeah, the finale with everyone being saved by "the guy in the third row" is absolutely classic (breaking the fourth wall gags just don't get any better!).

[cartoonfan4ever]

I chose Dr Jekyll and Mr Mouse. I like the dark T&J cartoons. Hyde and Hare is a close second.

[Speedy Boris]

It's a close race between Hyde and Hare and Hyde and Go Tweet. Freleng sure loved his J/H parodies, didn't he?

[Kevin McCorry]

"Hyde and Go Tweet" is a brilliant cartoon. Exceedingly good at setting up scenes of terror and depicting them in a way to best viscerally convey the threat to Sylvester with an almost Hitchcockian flair. I would argue that Freleng was the most Hitchcockian of the WB 'toon directors, and indeed he made the bird species menacing three years before Hitch did. At times, we don't see the monster as it lurks behind or advances on Sylvester, and the "camera" pulls back in a reveal. Where at others we see the transformation while Sylvester's back is turned and anticipate the severity of Sylvester's reaction. Putting the cartoon many floors high in a modern office building makes Sylvester's encounter with the monster-horror element all the more unsetttling. Of course, there is a quibble one could make as to logic, i.e. why Sylvester doesn't figure out that Tweety is the monster; he ought to have done so after Tweety reverts to normal self after transformation one. But as the cartoon is mostly a Sylvester dream sequence, the quibble can be dismissed. Oh, yes. The cartoon has on this very forum been criticized as being a rip-off of "King-Size Canary". I've only seen excerpts of "King-Size Canary" but from what I can tell, just because a character grows big as in that, doesn't mean he's been made menacing or capable of murder. Hyde Formula changes a character to make him capable of killing without any compunction. In addition to making him big and bulky.

"Hyde and Go Tweet" is indeed a very disturbing cartoon. One of the most disturbing that Warner Bros. ever made. It is a disgrace that it was snubbed in the 6 volumes of the LTGCs and that we're now going to have to make do with it on DVD in shoehorned-into-Quackbusters format. Its hold on my psyche from early childhood onward is immense. Whenever I see an old-fashioned brick building with lettering on the windows, I think of "Hyde and Go Tweet" and shudder. There is such a building on Queen Street in Fredericton, though the lettering on the windows has long ago been removed. I still sometimes dream of the monster Tweety coming out of the TV screen to chase me. ... But make no mistake, "Hyde and Go Tweet" does have some rather flat animation in scenes where the monster Tweety is stalking Sylvester in a corridor. Some of the animation of Sylvester running looks poor. And further, it would appear that the window of Jekyll's office is reused for the lunch room Sylvester is in for the sandwich scene; in fact, it's unclear exactly what building the characters are in by then. The dream pretense could I suppose be used again to explain that. ... I'm not blind to deficiencies in the quality of animation. I perceived early-on in life that The Marvel Superheroes, Rocket Robin Hood, Spiderman, The Flintstones, Huck Hound, etc. left something to be desired in the animation area. But as long as a cartoon creates a palpable milieu to impress me and characterizations that I can connect with and stylization, nuance, and intertextual story, the quality of the animation is NOT a hinderance to a cartoon's effectiveness. Absolutely bloody not! RRH and Spiderman are sublimely creepy and trippy, The Flintstones greatly funny as a situation comedy, Huck Hound charming, etc.. If smooth and fluid animation and overt zaniness is all that a cartoon offers, that's NOT enough. Not by a long chalk.

Yes, "Hyde and Go Tweet" is one of my all-time favorites. Definitely! But it doesn't really go into the J&H prospectus very much. The nature of the potion and of addiction to it just aren't addressed. We see Jekyll come in and take a drink but aren't given a rhyme or reason, subtle or otherwise, as to what brings him to do so. It's just shown to set up the cartoon's take on the monstrous element. The laboratory and the Hyde Formula in "Hyde and Go Tweet" are essentially a vehicle for Tweety to become a monster with designs on doing some lethal harm to the putty tat. And it's done very well. Sure. But for an exploration into J&H themes, stylization, expressionism/imagery, use of epic characterization and the literary techniques of foreshadowing and symbolism, "Hyde and Hare" has "Hyde and Go Tweet" beat by a country mile. An odd rough bit of animation doesn't detract from any of that, not by a long chalk. The cartoon could be done with stills or sliding still panels a la Marvel Superheroes, and the effect of the cartoon as expressive story would not be diminished. Now, I've had an article up on the 'Net regarding "Hyde and Hare" since 1997. And in the next few months, the article will finally be taken down along with the others. The article is a smashing failure, but at least I tried to make a measure of difference. That I ultimately achieved the counter-productive reaction, making H&H even less esteemed, all the more downed-on than it had before been (before, it had just been ignored), could speak to some everlasting aversion to the cartoon and the stuff I alleged to be in it, or just to my own lack of writing skill. But anyway, the time has come, and Geocities shutting down has put the tin hat on it, to finally bow out of the Website world, in retreat that has in any case been for quite awhile now.

But getting back to the subject at hand. "Dr. Jerkyl's Hide" has perhaps the most elaborate depiction of the laboratory. I've always been impressed by that. It's maybe the most atmospheric of the Freleng three. And it internalizes in Sylvester the wildcat that had aided him (albeit inadvertantly) against Spike in "Tree For Two" and makes for an interesting companion piece to the earlier cartoon. It's also the most evidently British in setting, in as much as the two dogs talk in cockney and the streets do cartoonily represent what one might find in London. It was the most frequently screened cartoon on CBC-TV in 1975, its episode 20 appearance in The BB/RR Hour being taken and used to fill time at the end of many other BB/RR episodes shown that year on CBC. And it must have made some impact on viewers in Canada that year.

I'm not a fan of "The Case of the Stuttering Pig". The way gags were done way back then detracts from the unsettling effect. And it does not explore at all the J&H story and its elements, instead just offering a means for a verbose monster to appear and chew some scenery and break the fourth wall. "The Impatient Patient" is interesting in some respects but again the gags detract from its scare factor. The three DePatie-Freleng cartoons, "Sicque! Sicque! Sicque!", "Watch the Birdie", and "Pink Lightning", ought to have been included as well in this poll. So too H-B's "Piccadilly Dilly" and "Two-Faced Wolf". But I guess I should be glad they weren't as they would have split the voting, allowing "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse" (which I was soooo disappointed with when I finally had occasion to see it) to come up the middle and win.

[The "Chase"]

"Hyde and Go Tweet" is a brilliant cartoon. Exceedingly good at setting up scenes of terror and depicting them in a way to best viscerally convey the threat to Sylvester with an almost Hitchcockian flair. I would argue that Freleng was the most Hitchcockian of the WB 'toon directors, and indeed he made the bird species menacing three years before Hitch did. At times, we don't see the monster as it lurks behind or advances on Sylvester, and the "camera" pulls back in a reveal. Where at others we see the transformation while Sylvester's back is turned and anticipate the severity of Sylvester's reaction. Putting the cartoon many floors high in a modern office building makes Sylvester's encounter with the monster-horror element all the more unsetttling. Of course, there is a quibble one could make as to logic, i.e. why Sylvester doesn't figure out that Tweety is the monster; he ought to have done so after Tweety reverts to normal self after transformation one. But as the cartoon is mostly a Sylvester dream sequence, the quibble can be dismissed. Oh, yes. The cartoon has on this very forum been criticized as being a rip-off of "King-Size Canary". I've only seen excerpts of "King-Size Canary" but from what I can tell, just because a character grows big as in that, doesn't mean he's been made menacing or capable of murder. Hyde Formula changes a character to make him capable of killing without any compunction. In addition to making him big and bulky.

"Hyde and Go Tweet" is indeed a very disturbing cartoon. One of the most disturbing that Warner Bros. ever made. It is a disgrace that it was snubbed in the 6 volumes of the LTGCs and that we're now going to have to make do with it on DVD in shoehorned-into-Quackbusters format. Its hold on my psyche from early childhood onward is immense. Whenever I see an old-fashioned brick building with lettering on the windows, I think of "Hyde and Go Tweet" and shudder. There is such a building on Queen Street in Fredericton, though the lettering on the windows has long ago been removed. I still sometimes dream of the monster Tweety coming out of the TV screen to chase me. ... But make no mistake, "Hyde and Go Tweet" does have some rather flat animation in scenes where the monster Tweety is stalking Sylvester in a corridor. Some of the animation of Sylvester running looks poor. And further, it would appear that the window of Jekyll's office is reused for the lunch room Sylvester is in for the sandwich scene; in fact, it's unclear exactly what building the characters are in by then. The dream pretense could I suppose be used again to explain that. ... I'm not blind to deficiencies in the quality of animation. I perceived early-on in life that The Marvel Superheroes, Rocket Robin Hood, Spiderman, The Flintstones, Huck Hound, etc. left something to be desired in the animation area. But as long as a cartoon creates a palpable milieu to impress me and characterizations that I can connect with and stylization, nuance, and intertextual story, the quality of the animation is NOT a hinderance to a cartoon's effectiveness. Absolutely bloody not! RRH and Spiderman are sublimely creepy and trippy, The Flintstones greatly funny as a situation comedy, Huck Hound charming, etc.. If smooth and fluid animation and overt zaniness is all that a cartoon offers, that's NOT enough. Not by a long chalk.

Yes, "Hyde and Go Tweet" is one of my all-time favorites. Definitely! But it doesn't really go into the J&H prospectus very much. The nature of the potion and of addiction to it just aren't addressed. We see Jekyll come in and take a drink but aren't given a rhyme or reason, subtle or otherwise, as to what brings him to do so. It's just shown to set up the cartoon's take on the monstrous element. The laboratory and the Hyde Formula in "Hyde and Go Tweet" are essentially a vehicle for Tweety to become a monster with designs on doing some lethal harm to the putty tat. And it's done very well. Sure. But for an exploration into J&H themes, stylization, expressionism/imagery, use of epic characterization and the literary techniques of foreshadowing and symbolism, "Hyde and Hare" has "Hyde and Go Tweet" beat by a country mile. An odd rough bit of animation doesn't detract from any of that, not by a long chalk. The cartoon could be done with stills or sliding still panels a la Marvel Superheroes, and the effect of the cartoon as expressive story would not be diminished. Now, I've had an article up on the 'Net regarding "Hyde and Hare" since 1997. And in the next few months, the article will finally be taken down along with the others. The article is a smashing failure, but at least I tried to make a measure of difference. That I ultimately achieved the counter-productive reaction, making H&H even less esteemed, all the more downed-on than it had before been (before, it had just been ignored), could speak to some everlasting aversion to the cartoon and the stuff I alleged to be in it, or just to my own lack of writing skill. But anyway, the time has come, and Geocities shutting down has put the tin hat on it, to finally bow out of the Website world, in retreat that has in any case been for quite awhile now.

But getting back to the subject at hand. "Dr. Jerkyl's Hide" has perhaps the most elaborate depiction of the laboratory. I've always been impressed by that. It's maybe the most atmospheric of the Freleng three. And it internalizes in Sylvester the wildcat that had aided him (albeit inadvertantly) against Spike in "Tree For Two" and makes for an interesting companion piece to the earlier cartoon. It's also the most evidently British in setting, in as much as the two dogs talk in cockney and the streets do cartoonily represent what one might find in London. It was the most frequently screened cartoon on CBC-TV in 1975, its episode 20 appearance in The BB/RR Hour being taken and used to fill time at the end of many other BB/RR episodes shown that year on CBC. And it must have made some impact on viewers in Canada that year.

I'm not a fan of "The Case of the Stuttering Pig". The way gags were done way back then detracts from the unsettling effect. And it does not explore at all the J&H story and its elements, instead just offering a means for a verbose monster to appear and chew some scenery and break the fourth wall. "The Impatient Patient" is interesting in some respects but again the gags detract from its scare factor. The three DePatie-Freleng cartoons, "Sicque! Sicque! Sicque!", "Watch the Birdie", and "Pink Lightning", ought to have been included as well in this poll. So too H-B's "Piccadilly Dilly" and "Two-Faced Wolf". But I guess I should be glad they weren't as they would have split the voting, allowing "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse" (which I was soooo disappointed with when I finally had occasion to see it) to come up the middle and win.

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[Speedy Boris]

You know what else is great about "Hyde and Hare"? The soundtrack. I love that intense music played when Jekyll switches to Hyde, and vice versa.

[Glowworm]

You know what else is great about "Hyde and Hare"? The soundtrack. I love that intense music played when Jekyll switches to Hyde, and vice versa.
Me too! It's pretty brilliant.Especially because it tones down when Hyde changes back into Jekyll and goes upwards as he changes to Hyde.

[Matt the Y]

Oh, yes. The cartoon has on this very forum been criticized as being a rip-off of "King-Size Canary". I've only seen excerpts of "King-Size Canary" but from what I can tell, just because a character grows big as in that, doesn't mean he's been made menacing or capable of murder. Hyde Formula changes a character to make him capable of killing without any compunction. In addition to making him big and bulky.

When was this? I must have missed that thread. But I have to agree that "King Size Canary" and "Hyde and Go Tweet" have little to nothing in common other than the very notion of a bird growing large from drinking a potion. But, other than that small factor, the storylines themselves between both cartoons (which, if you ever actually do watch "King Size Canary" all the way through, will become even more evident.....) are practically night and day. I doubt Friz actually saw Tex's cartoon one time and thought, yeah, "I'll re-make his picture as my own....." :rolleyes:

[Kevin McCorry]

When was this? I must have missed that thread. But I have to agree that "King Size Canary" and "Hyde and Go Tweet" have little to nothing in common other than the very notion of a bird growing large from drinking a potion. But, other than that small factor, the storylines themselves between both cartoons (which, if you ever actually do watch "King Size Canary" all the way through, will become even more evident.....) are practically night and day. I doubt Friz actually saw Tex's cartoon one time and thought, yeah, "I'll re-make his picture as my own....." :rolleyes:

It was back in 2004 in that monster omnibus pre-1948/post-1948 thread that I'm still trying to forget. I don't know if Friz saw "King-Size Canary", but it's more likely he was thinking by 1959 that he'd used every Tweety-protecting antagonist for Sylvester except Tweety himself, and the already-repearedly-used J&H storyline came to him from that. And the laboratory setting in "Tweet and Lovely" might have had him thinking in that direction.

I see "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse" has sprung ahead in the poll after my lengthy posting. As ever, putting my fingers to keyboard brings counter-productive effect. ... But at least the combined vote for Friz's cartoons still prevails. Just.

[larriva9/11]

If one has to raise "King Size Canary" in a thread like this, one might as well raise "Transylvania 6-5000" as well, as *it* involves two-way (and more) transformation...

[Jack G.]

The Case Of The Stuttering Pig is my fave at the moment.

Hyde and Go Tweet always disturbed me. Didn't get any enjoyment out of it.