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Speedy Boris
06-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Since we seem to have threads every so often where one asks what a particular song title is called in a cartoon, I thought it would be useful to have a stickied Q&A thread on this very subject. Whether it be Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Woody Woodpecker, whatever, if you're wondering what a song is in a golden age cartoon, this is the place to ask.

I'll get us started. I'm still curious about a few pieces that, AFAIK, haven't been identified yet:
1) The title cards for "Red Riding Hoodwinked" and "Mixed Master".
2) The title cards for "Dog Gone People" and "Person to Bunny".
3) The title card for "Go Fly a Kit", which also plays in "One Froggy Evening" when the man is first trying to showcase the frog to a businessman.

Any help?

looneytooney
06-07-2009, 05:19 PM
I'll get us started. I'm still curious about a few pieces that, AFAIK, haven't been identified yet:
1) The title cards for "Red Riding Hoodwinked" and "Mixed Master".
2) The title cards for "Dog Gone People" and "Person to Bunny".
3) The title card for "Go Fly a Kit", which also plays in "One Froggy Evening" when the man is first trying to showcase the frog to a businessman.

Any help?

I would think those are all original, because Franklyn didn't really quote popular songs as much as Stalling did.

Speedy Boris
06-09-2009, 12:06 PM
^ Perhaps, though the fact that these songs were used in multiple shorts makes me wonder.

Some others that I'm wondering about:
1) The melody used in the "giraffe and seal feeding" scenes of "Who's Who in the Zoo", as well as during "Often an Orphan" and some other cartoons I'm forgetting. ANSWERED: "You You Darling"
2) The title cards for "Here Today, Gone Tamale" and "West of the Pesos".
3) The title cards for "Greedy For Tweety", "Rocket-Bye Baby", and "Baby Buggy Bunny".

Emmanuel Cruz
06-12-2009, 05:14 AM
What is the tune that the prisoner sings when he breaks out in "Bars and Stripes Forever?"

-EJC

cartoonfan4ever
06-12-2009, 11:08 PM
What is the tune that the prisoner sings when he breaks out in "Bars and Stripes Forever?"

-EJC

I think it's Daydreaming (All Night Long). That's according to the IMDB.</B>

looneytooney
06-14-2009, 06:11 PM
Oh my. Have I got a discovery. This song's called 'Monday Morning' and it is played by Kay Kyser and his Orchestra.

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1938_205.mp3

It's played at the titles of 'Porky's Tire Trouble' and 'Naughty Neighbors', and plays through most of 'Bars and Stripes Forever'.

Speedy Boris
06-15-2009, 10:02 AM
^ Nice find! Always amazing just how many songs Carl Stalling used.

looneytooney
06-15-2009, 10:21 AM
This site is great! Here's another song Stalling used during the titles of 'You Were Never Duckier' and the diving board gag in 'The Foxy Duckling'.

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1946_195.mp3

Speedy Boris
06-15-2009, 11:15 AM
This site is great! Here's another song Stalling used during the titles of 'You Were Never Duckier' and the diving board gag in 'The Foxy Duckling'.

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1946_195.mp3 Does that one have a name? (I'm at work right now so I can't listen to it)

Matt the Y
06-15-2009, 11:44 AM
Does that one have a name? (I'm at work right now so I can't listen to it)

"I'd Be Lost Without You" by Sunny Skylar.

AndrewGilmore
06-16-2009, 11:02 AM
I'm trying to find the name of yet another song used in WB cartoons..three uses of it I can think of are:
1. The first scene of "Gopher Goofy"
2. As proto-Bugs' theme music in "Elmer's Candid Camera"
3. In the infamous baby alligator/pig scene in "Baby Bottleneck"

Anyone know the name of that tune?

looneytooney
06-16-2009, 11:03 AM
Seems we're running into that problem lately. There IS a sticky that Speedy Boris posted for the Stalling musical queries.

AndrewGilmore
06-16-2009, 01:12 PM
Seems we're running into that problem lately. There IS a sticky that Speedy Boris posted for the Stalling musical queries.

My error. I never did know quite what a sticky is, but I guess I do now!

looneytooney
06-19-2009, 10:27 AM
Here's another song I already mentioned in the 'Mystery Songs' thread. This was called "In an Old Dutch Garden". This was used in 'Busy Bakers' and throughout 'A Coy Decoy'.

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3c/BLU043909.mp3

Also, I found this old post of Andrew Gilmore's and there was a post saying that a song called 'Where Was I?' playing during the opening scene in 'The Sour Puss'. I have heard the song before in such cartoons as 'You Ought to Be in Pictures' and 'Hollywood Steps Out' but IMDB credits it to 'Love Theme to One Way Passage' by Harry Warren. I found the recording and I'll be darned if IMDB was wrong and Andrew was right. Hear for yourselves:

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3a/BLU047986.mp3

AndrewGilmore
06-21-2009, 07:08 AM
Well, turns out Will Friedwald himself didn't know what that song I was looking for is called. So, unfortunately, I guess if Will doesn't know it, nobody does!

looneytooney
06-21-2009, 07:41 PM
Then ask Jerry, he's answered some of my song queries.

Dirty Skunk
06-27-2009, 07:34 AM
There is a tune that I like. It's in Porky's Party and it plays every time the silkworm starts sewing. It's really catchy and simple. I've heard it in a few other cartoons as well, but can't quite place it - I believe it was also in Disney's Moose Hunters when Donald and Goofy dance away from one of the mooses(?) moose(?) meese(?) using a couple of shrubs after their cover is nearly blown. But what is it called?

looneytooney
06-27-2009, 09:01 AM
There is a tune that I like. It's in Porky's Party and it plays every time the silkworm starts sewing.

That's an easy one. That would be 'Gavotte in D' by Francois-Joseph Gossec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pww-Bh7mO_Q

Speedy Boris
06-30-2009, 11:40 PM
A few more title card melodies I'm wondering about: (if they're anything, that is)
-All This and Rabbit Stew
-The Bashful Buzzard and Bugs Bunny Gets the Boid
-Baton Bunny ANSWERED: "Morning, Noon, and Night in Vienna"
-Bushy Hare
-By Word of Mouse, Feather Dusted, and Tweety and the Beanstalk
-Cat-Tails For Two and Dog Pounded
-Ceiling Hero, The Grey-Hounded Hare, High Diving Hare, and probably others
-Daffy Duck and Egghead ANSWERED: "'Cause My Baby Says It's So"
-Daffy Duck and the Dinosaur
-Daffy's Inn Trouble
-The Ducksters ANSWERED: "I'm in Love"
-A Feather in His Hare ANSWERED: "Who Calls"
-Feline Frame-Up ANSWERED: "So Dumb But So Beautiful"
-For Scent-imental Reasons ANSWERED: "Every Day I Love You Just a Little Bit More"
-Fowl Weather
-Gonzales' Tamales
-Gopher Goofy
-Hare Conditioned ANSWERED: "A Little On the Lonely Side"
-Hare Splitter
-Hare Tonic and Hollywood Canine Canteen ANSWERED: "Corns For My Country"
-Haredevil Hare
-Heaven Scent (the song that Pepe sings over the titles)
-Holiday For Shoestrings ANSWERED: "A Midsummer Night's Dream"
-A Kiddies Kitty and Pizzicato Pussycat
-Kit For Cat
-Land of the Midnight Sun
-The Major Lied Til Dawn
-Meet John Doughboy
-The Night Watchman
-The Oily American
-Pilgrim Porky
-Polar Pals
-Porky and Teabiscuit (specifically, the name of the trumpet call)
-Porky Chops
-Porky's Super Service
-Rabbit Punch
-Rabbit Transit
-Rhapsody Rabbit
-Riff Raffy Daffy
-Rover's Rival
-Sleepy Time Possum
-Stop! Look! and Hasten! and There Auto Be a Law
-A Street Cat Named Sylvester (it also plays during "Wild Wife")
-The Stupor Salesman
-The Wacky Wabbit
-Wise Quacks

Any help on any of these?

Matt the Y
07-01-2009, 01:01 AM
A few more title card melodies I'm wondering about: (if they're anything, that is)
-All This and Rabbit Stew
-The Bashful Buzzard and Bugs Bunny Gets the Boid
-Baton Bunny
-Bushy Hare
-By Word of Mouse, Feather Dusted, and Tweety and the Beanstalk
-Cat-Tails For Two and Dog Pounded
-Ceiling Hero, The Grey-Hounded Hare, High Diving Hare, and probably others
-Daffy Duck and Egghead
-Daffy Duck and the Dinosaur
-Daffy's Inn Trouble
-The Ducksters
-A Feather in His Hare
-Feline Frame-Up
-For Scent-imental Reasons
-Fowl Weather
-Gonzales' Tamales
-Gopher Goofy
-Hare Conditioned
-Hare Splitter
-Hare Tonic and Hollywood Canine Canteen
-Haredevil Hare
-Heaven Scent (the song that Pepe sings over the titles)
-Holiday For Shoestrings
-A Kiddies Kitty and Pizzicato Pussycat
-Kit For Cat
-Land of the Midnight Sun
-The Major Lied Til Dawn
-Meet John Doughboy
-The Night Watchman
-The Oily American
-Pilgrim Porky
-Polar Pals
-Porky and Teabiscuit (specifically, the name of the trumpet call)
-Porky Chops
-Porky's Super Service
-Rabbit Punch
-Rabbit Transit
-Rhapsody Rabbit
-Riff Raffy Daffy
-Rover's Rival
-Sleepy Time Possum
-Stop! Look! and Hasten! and There Auto Be a Law
-A Street Cat Named Sylvester (it also plays during "Wild Wife")
-The Stupor Salesman
-The Wacky Wabbit
-Wise Quacks

Any help on any of these?

I can indeed help with some of these......

"Baton Bunny" - Morning, Noon, and Night in Vienna

"A Feather in His Hare" - Who Calls?

"For Scent-Imental Reasons" - Every Day I Love You Just a Little Bit More

"Hare Conditioned" - A Little on the Lonely Side

"The Stupor Salesman" - Look Out For Jimmy Valentine

Only a small sample, I know, but a journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single step.

AndrewGilmore
07-01-2009, 02:09 AM
-By Word of Mouse, Feather Dusted, and Tweety and the Beanstalk
-The Wacky Wabbit


I was always under the impression that those were simply original tunes by Franklyn and Stalling respectively which don't have names. Although I could be wrong about The Wacky Wabbit.


-Daffy Duck and Egghead


"Cause My Baby Says It's So" by Warren and Dubin


-Polar Pals

I'm not positive, but I believe it's called "Let the Rest of the World Go By"- also used in Of Fox and Hounds and several others.

Speedy Boris
07-01-2009, 09:13 AM
"The Stupor Salesman" - Look Out For Jimmy Valentine Hmm, I thought "Racketeer Rabbit"'s title card was "Jimmy Valentine"... unless they both use different sounding sections of the same song or something.

Thanks for the help on the others, both of you!

looneytooney
07-01-2009, 10:31 AM
-Hollywood Canine Canteen

That is 'Corns for My Country'. Listen for yourself:

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1945_242.mp3

Speedy Boris
07-01-2009, 11:23 AM
That is 'Corns for My Country'. Listen for yourself:

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1945_242.mp3 Awesome. They even used the word "canteen" in it, certainly appropriate for the title of that cartoon. Thanks!

PudgieDParrot
07-03-2009, 01:02 AM
Does anyone know the name of the nine-note musical cue that accompanies most Chinese/Asian racial gags?

Nick
07-03-2009, 04:46 AM
Does anyone know the name of the nine-note musical cue that accompanies most Chinese/Asian racial gags? I don't know if it has an actual name, but it's usually all of the black notes on a piano played in succession.

Speedy Boris
07-05-2009, 07:22 PM
Is there a name to the bit of music played in "Rabbit Rampage" when a diver's helmet is painted on Bugs? It also plays in numerous Tiny Toons episodes. ANSWERED: "Rocked in the Cradle of the Deep"

looneytooney
07-05-2009, 08:16 PM
Is there a name to the bit of music played in "Rabbit Rampage" when a diver's helmet is painted on Bugs? It also plays in numerous Tiny Toons episodes.

I believe it's "Don't Give Up the Ship".

Speedy Boris
07-05-2009, 08:50 PM
I believe it's "Don't Give Up the Ship". Is it? I watched this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX3C3qpa9EY) and couldn't find the melody I'm talking about. But that is definitely the title card for "Hare We Go", if nothing else.

looneytooney
07-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Is it? I watched this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX3C3qpa9EY) and couldn't find the melody I'm talking about. But that is definitely the title card for "Hare We Go", if nothing else.

:eek: OK, maybe that definetly was not the song. It sounds like it, but I don't know what the song is.

Matt the Y
07-05-2009, 09:01 PM
Is there a name to the bit of music played in "Rabbit Rampage" when a diver's helmet is painted on Bugs? It also plays in numerous Tiny Toons episodes.

That is "A Life on the Ocean Wave" by Henry Russell.

looneytooney
07-05-2009, 09:06 PM
There is a "mystery song" that has been perplexing me for a while. I heard it on Rover's Rival and The Crackpot Quail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uex7avd1ASQ (starts at 0:31-0:54)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-FIwWKxWMA (starts at 3:48-4:04 and again at 5:51-6:05)

Speedy Boris
07-05-2009, 10:49 PM
That is "A Life on the Ocean Wave" by Henry Russell. Hmm, again I seem to be confused. I definitely know that tune (it's part of the title card for "Good Noose", for instance), and I don't recall hearing that melody from "Rabbit Rampage" in that song.

Matt the Y
07-06-2009, 01:03 AM
Hmm, again I seem to be confused. I definitely know that tune (it's part of the title card for "Good Noose", for instance), and I don't recall hearing that melody from "Rabbit Rampage" in that song.

That's what it sounds like to me (again, we're both talking about the scene with the diver's helmet being painted around Bugs' head, right?). It's a bit run together but that tune sounds like the closest thing to what you're thinking of as near as I can hear.

Speedy Boris
07-06-2009, 10:07 AM
That's what it sounds like to me (again, we're both talking about the scene with the diver's helmet being painted around Bugs' head, right?). It's a bit run together but that tune sounds like the closest thing to what you're thinking of as near as I can hear. Yes, that's the scene I mean. It's definitely a different tune than "A Life on the Ocean Wave", unless there's another movement to the song that I didn't hear. Here's a rendition of "Ocean Wave": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAlSXeo-sBY

If it helps, the little tune also plays in the Tiny Toons episode "Return of Pluck Twacy" when Plucky is pulled out of his building by Shirley's buckets of tears and washes onto the street.

looneytooney
07-06-2009, 07:22 PM
There is a "mystery song" that has been perplexing me for a while. I heard it on Rover's Rival and The Crackpot Quail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uex7avd1ASQ (starts at 0:31-0:54)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-FIwWKxWMA (starts at 3:48-4:04 and again at 5:51-6:05)

Oh, I forgot to mention, I call this the 'Stalling dog song' because both cartoons have dogs. Even though I have a hunch that it's a song implanted in Stalling's mind, I still call it as such.

Timber Wolf
07-10-2009, 12:15 PM
Does anyone know the name of the nine-note musical cue that accompanies most Chinese/Asian racial gags?

According to Wikipedia, it's called the Oriental Riff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_Riff

Speedy Boris
07-12-2009, 07:51 PM
Here's one: Does anyone know the music that's frequently played in high tension scenes, such as the canoe/waterfall scene from "Tweet Tweet Tweety"? I know that piece of music plays in other LT shorts, but I'm drawing a blank right now. ANSWERED: "'Athalie Overture"

looneytooney
07-12-2009, 07:54 PM
Here's one: Does anyone know the music that's frequently played in high tension scenes, such as the canoe/waterfall scene from "Tweet Tweet Tweety"? I know that piece of music plays in other LT shorts, but I'm drawing a blank right now.

That's the 'Athalie Overture' by Felix Mendelssohn, according to Mark Kausler.

Speedy Boris
07-12-2009, 07:59 PM
That's the 'Athalie Overture' by Felix Mendelssohn, according to Mark Kausler. Ah, so it is (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.thesymphony.org/MusicSamples/0809/Mendelssohn_Athalia.html&ei=43haSv3NIJK4NpXFhUM&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&usg=AFQjCNE2IkSsBsHOGEfyt4xGt8Fkw8YOcg). Thanks! Do you happen to remember off-hand which other shorts this played in?

looneytooney
07-12-2009, 08:17 PM
It's used in 'Porky in the North Woods' during the montage where all the woodland creatures go out to save Porky, 'Tortoise Beats Hare' where Cecil calls his friends to trick Bugs and in 'Old Glory' in the Paul Revere scene.

Speedy Boris
07-15-2009, 10:22 PM
Got yet another mystery track. It's the title card for "Elmer's Candid Camera" and also plays during the coming attractions part of "The Film Fan". As those were released within a couple years of each other, it makes me wonder if it was a song from around that late '30s time period. ANSWERED: "What's New?"

Matt the Y
07-15-2009, 11:01 PM
Got yet another mystery track. It's the title card for "Elmer's Candid Camera" and also plays during the coming attractions part of "The Film Fan". As those were released within a couple years of each other, it makes me wonder if it was a song from around that late '30s time period.

Ahhhhhhh, yes..... I can answer this. That is a tune called "What's New?" by Bob Haggart.

Speedy Boris
07-15-2009, 11:07 PM
Thanks again! One more mystery checked off the list. :D

looneytooney
07-19-2009, 11:47 AM
Guys, Daniel Goldmark unraveled another mystery for me. It's that song from 'Hop and Go' that plays throughout the cartoon and in 'The Wise Quacking Duck' where Daffy comes in as a fortune teller ('Greetings gate! Let's osculate!') Here's his message:

I'm sorry for taking so long to get back to you- let's just say it has been busy around here (toddler, summer vacation, etc.). Anyhow- the song you're asking about is from 1942 and is called "Giddap Mule, We've Got to Farm to Win This Fight," by Leonard Ware, who was born in 1909. Ware was a guitarist who played with Count Basie and Benny Goodman. Apparently (according to his biography in the ASCAP [American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers] Biographical Dictionary), "Giddap Mule" was "accepted by the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture," although exactly what this means isn't really clear....


I think this song is pretty rare- there's only one copy that I can find in the many online sheet music databases, and it's just a listing (no artwork, recording, nothing). Stalling only used it a couple of times- but (as you point out) it's a really, really swinging tune!

frootloops
07-19-2009, 05:38 PM
I'm not sure if this question has been asked already but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread. I've been looking all over the net.

There's a song that I want to learn to play on the piano. But I'm not sure where its origin began. It's a really good 1890s sounding tune. It appears in both "Love and Curses" and Bowery Bugs.

The lyrics (I think):

"Just an ivy cottage with a brook that's running near
Just an aged couple seated in the door
Sadly thinking of their Mary, to their hearts never a tear
In wounded pride, she left them years before

All is not gold that glitters
All is not pure that shines
Follow your mothers teachings
and happiness will be thine (will be thine)

Lovers may seek your favour
most of their wealth untold
but all through your life, remember child
all that glitters is not gold"

P.S. There is a song called "All that Glitters is Not Gold" by Clifford T. Ward and "Everything that Glitters is Not Gold" by Dan Seals but neither of these are the same tune at all.

looneytooney
07-19-2009, 07:56 PM
I'm not sure if this question has been asked already but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread. I've been looking all over the net.

There's a song that I want to learn to play on the piano. But I'm not sure where its origin began. It's a really good 1890s sounding tune. It appears in both "Love and Curses" and Bowery Bugs.

The lyrics (I think):

"Just an ivy cottage with a brook that's running near
Just an aged couple seated in the door
Sadly thinking of their Mary, to their hearts never a tear
In wounded pride, she left them years before

All is not gold that glitters
All is not pure that shines
Follow your mothers teachings
and happiness will be thine (will be thine)

Lovers may seek your favour
most of their wealth untold
but all through your life, remember child
all that glitters is not gold"

P.S. There is a song called "All that Glitters is Not Gold" by Clifford T. Ward and "Everything that Glitters is Not Gold" by Dan Seals but neither of these are the same tune at all.

I'm pretty sure it IS "All that Glitters is Not Gold".

frootloops
07-22-2009, 05:34 PM
I'm pretty sure it IS "All that Glitters is Not Gold".It's NOT the one by Clifford T. Ward, mmmmkay? I'm not "pretty sure" of that. I'm DOWN RIGHT CERTAIN. Obviously that's the first thing I typed into Google. I checked it out. The lyrics don't match and the composer's too young.

I'm not looking for the title, anyway. As I say, I'm looking for the origin and composer. I was hoping somebody here could help me without insulting my intelligence.

AndrewGilmore
07-29-2009, 02:41 AM
Here's one that I just found! It's used throughout "Doggone Cats", and as the white puppy's theme in "Snow Time For Comedy", and I just found out on the IMDB that it's called "Keep Cool, Fool". http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/ramc/DEC68894.ram

And while looking randomly through jazz-on-line.com's collections of songs from 1939 in the hopes of stumbling on another mystery song, I did just that- the song playing in "Who's Who In the Zoo" when Porky is introduced is in fact a piece called "You, You Darlin'"! Apparently it was very popular, because jazz-on-line.com has no less than five different versions of it!

Speedy Boris
07-29-2009, 09:07 AM
Here's one that I just found! It's used throughout "Doggone Cats", and as the white puppy's theme in "Snow Time For Comedy", and I just found out on the IMDB that it's called "Keep Cool, Fool". http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/ramc/DEC68894.ram That one's already been identified (although not in this thread). And while looking randomly through jazz-on-line.com's collections of songs from 1939 in the hopes of stumbling on another mystery song, I did just that- the song playing in "Who's Who In the Zoo" when Porky is introduced is in fact a piece called "You, You Darlin'"! Apparently it was very popular, because jazz-on-line.com has no less than five different versions of it! Nice work! I -knew- that ditty had to be something. :D

AndrewGilmore
07-29-2009, 11:04 AM
That one's already been identified (although not in this thread).

Well, it was news to me anyhow!

looneytooney
07-29-2009, 06:05 PM
And while looking randomly through jazz-on-line.com's collections of songs from 1939 in the hopes of stumbling on another mystery song, I did just that- the song playing in "Who's Who In the Zoo" when Porky is introduced is in fact a piece called "You, You Darlin'"! Apparently it was very popular, because jazz-on-line.com has no less than five different versions of it!

My hat goes off to you and a sigh of relief. I've been trying to find that one out too. At least you did that completely on your own and not with the help of Daniel Goldmark! :D

Speedy Boris
07-29-2009, 07:15 PM
Hey, does the tune from "Rocket Squad" where the criminal is selecting a sandwich at Elsa's Blast Inn happen to be anything? It may be an original composition by Franklyn, but based on this thread, it makes me wonder if it's a jazz tune of some sort.

AndrewGilmore
07-30-2009, 04:40 PM
My hat goes off to you and a sigh of relief. I've been trying to find that one out too. At least you did that completely on your own and not with the help of Daniel Goldmark! :D

Erm..well, it's funny you should say that, because I did email Mr. Goldmark a few days ago asking him to identify a few different songs, and what turns out to be "You, You Darlin'" was one of them. I haven't received a reply from him yet, but if and/or when I do I'll have a few more mysteries unraveled!

looneytooney
07-30-2009, 04:53 PM
Erm..well, it's funny you should say that, because I did email Mr. Goldmark a few days ago asking him to identify a few different songs, and what turns out to be "You, You Darlin'" was one of them. I haven't received a reply from him yet, but if and/or when I do I'll have a few more mysteries unraveled!

I own his 'Tunes for Toons' book and he put in cue sheets for 'Mouse Warming' (just an excerpt) and 'Bugs Bunny Rides Again'. I found out that Stalling's own cues were actually labeled.

AndrewGilmore
07-30-2009, 06:23 PM
I own his 'Tunes for Toons' book and he put in cue sheets for 'Mouse Warming' (just an excerpt) and 'Bugs Bunny Rides Again'. I found out that Stalling's own cues were actually labeled.

So I've heard. I should buy that- I only have "The Cartoon Music Book".

looneytooney
07-31-2009, 03:34 PM
Here's a tune that's been bugging me recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_IsVvLf74
Puss n' Booty (plays at 5:41-6:01)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtPnL9qzPjg
Lost and Foundling (plays at 2:10-2:25)

It also plays on 'What's Cookin' Doc?' when Bugs imitates the celebrities.

AndrewGilmore
08-01-2009, 03:01 AM
Here's a tune that's been bugging me recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_IsVvLf74
Puss n' Booty (plays at 5:41-6:01)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtPnL9qzPjg
Lost and Foundling (plays at 2:10-2:25)

It also plays on 'What's Cookin' Doc?' when Bugs imitates the celebrities.

That would be "How Sweet You Are" by Arthur Schwartz and Frank Loesser, from the movie "Thank Your Lucky Stars", which also brought us the songs "Ice Cold Katie", "I'm Ridin' For a Fall" and "They're Either Too Young Or Too Old", all of which were used by Stalling at least twice. "How Sweet You Are" is also heard in "Birdy and the Beast" and "Duck Soup to Nuts".

looneytooney
08-01-2009, 11:32 AM
That would be "How Sweet You Are" by Arthur Schwartz and Frank Loesser, from the movie "Thank Your Lucky Stars", which also brought us the songs "Ice Cold Katie", "I'm Ridin' For a Fall" and "They're Either Too Young Or Too Old", all of which were used by Stalling at least twice. "How Sweet You Are" is also heard in "Birdy and the Beast" and "Duck Soup to Nuts".

Thanks! :D

looneytooney
08-02-2009, 07:41 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/voiceman91/video/xa1p25_mystery-song-8_shortfilms

Another mystery tune in my head.

looneytooney
08-05-2009, 12:57 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention, I call this the 'Stalling dog song' because both cartoons have dogs. Even though I have a hunch that it's a song implanted in Stalling's mind, I still call it as such.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa2p4y_mystery-song-9

Here's the song just in case that went over your head.

looneytooney
08-12-2009, 01:28 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa2p4y_mystery-song-9

Here's the song just in case that went over your head.

All right! Daniel Goldmark unraveled another mystery tune for me!



The second tune is "They Gotta Quit Kickin' My Dog Around" by Oungst and Perkins, and published in 1912.
http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/inharmony/detail.do?action=detail&fullItemID=/lilly/devincent/LL-SDV-123013&queryNumber=1 (http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/inharmony/detail.do?action=detail&fullItemID=/lilly/devincent/LL-SDV-123013&queryNumber=1)

looneytooney
08-13-2009, 12:44 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/voiceman91/video/xa1p25_mystery-song-8_shortfilms

Another mystery tune in my head.

Daniel Goldmark's done it again! :D

It's "Hang On To Your Lids, Kids" from the film Blues in the Night (1941) by Harold Arlen and Johnny Mercer.

And what do you know! It's on YouTube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ckFm32ur8

laugh4me
08-13-2009, 10:45 PM
FWIW, here's an mp3 from 1912 of Byron Harlan performing They Gotta Quit Kickin' My Dawg Aroun'.

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/mp3s/3000/3884/cusb-cyl3884d.mp3

looneytooney
08-13-2009, 10:56 PM
FWIW, here's an mp3 from 1912 of Byron Harlan performing They Gotta Quit Kickin' My Dawg Aroun'.

http://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/mp3s/3000/3884/cusb-cyl3884d.mp3

Thanks! Note how when Stalling invokes the tune, it's in a slightly faster tempo.

AndrewGilmore
08-14-2009, 06:13 AM
Goldmark has done it once again!
Here's an excerpt from his reply to my email:

1. Bugs' theme music in "Elmer's Candid Camera"- also used in the opening scene of "Gopher Goofy"

"Piggy Wiggy Woo" by Baer, Cunningham, and Schuster.

2. The song whistled by the mouse at the beginning of "Porky's Poor Fish"

"The Girl with the Pigtails in her Hair," by Sammy Cahn and Saul Chaplin.

3. The song playing in the scene where Porky feeds the giraffe in "Who's Who at the Zoo"- also used briefly in "Often an Orphan", "Lost and Foundling" and "Daffy Duck Hunt"

"You You Darlin'" by MK Jerome and Jack Scholl.

4. The song used as the bee's theme in "Porky's Pastry Pirates"

"You Hit my Heart with a Bang," by Goodhart, Nelson and Pease

5. The classical piece playing during the titles of "Holiday For Shoestrings"- also used in "Joe Glow the Firefly"- IIRC it's something by Tchaikovsky, but I'll be darned if I can remember it's title.

It's actually Mendelssohn's music for "A Midsummer Night's Dream."

looneytooney
08-14-2009, 08:40 AM
Goldmark has done it once again!
Here's an excerpt from his reply to my email:

2. The song whistled by the mouse at the beginning of "Porky's Poor Fish"

"The Girl with the Pigtails in her Hair," by Sammy Cahn and Saul Chaplin.



I thought it was "As Ye Sow So Shall Ye Reap". Hmmm..

Speedy Boris
08-15-2009, 12:49 AM
5. The classical piece playing during the titles of "Holiday For Shoestrings"- also used in "Joe Glow the Firefly"- IIRC it's something by Tchaikovsky, but I'll be darned if I can remember it's title.

It's actually Mendelssohn's music for "A Midsummer Night's Dream." It also plays at the beginning of "Rabbit's Kin" when Shorty first meets Bugs.

looneytooney
08-16-2009, 10:45 PM
What's the song that the squirrels use to sing about Robin Hood in 'Robin Hood Makes Good'?

looneytooney
08-26-2009, 09:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK4k_NXd7D8&feature=channel_page

I noticed something about the song that plays in the beginning of 'Bars and Stripes Forever'. It confirms on the description also that the song playing is 'St. James Infirmary Blues' (well-known for KoKo singing it in "Snow-White").

Speedy Boris
08-28-2009, 11:02 PM
Hey, is there a name to the melody used in "Snow Time For Comedy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fapkO-x_sGE&feature=channel_page) during most of the beginning, as well as "Satan's Waitin'" during the gun/target sequence? Seems like it could be something specific, if it got used more than once.

looneytooney
08-29-2009, 07:53 AM
Hey, is there a name to the melody used in "Snow Time For Comedy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fapkO-x_sGE&feature=channel_page) during most of the beginning, as well as "Satan's Waitin'" during the gun/target sequence? Seems like it could be something specific, if it got used more than once.

I was going to ask that same question! Speedy, get out of my head!

Speedy Boris
09-03-2009, 12:30 PM
^ Great minds think alike. :)

I can't remember if I asked this yet, but is there a name to the song that plays during the wrestling match in "Porky the Wrestler" as well as what Porky whistles at the beginning of "Fish Tales"? Surely that has to be something.

looneytooney
09-03-2009, 03:36 PM
^ Great minds think alike. :)

I can't remember if I asked this yet, but is there a name to the song that plays during the wrestling match in "Porky the Wrestler" as well as what Porky whistles at the beginning of "Fish Tales"? Surely that has to be something.

I don't know what it is but I know what you're talking about. It even plays in 'Porky's Garden' when the neighbor pretends to tell the chickens to stop raiding Porky's garden. ("You see, I talk to them, but they won't listen-a one word to me.")

Speedy Boris
09-06-2009, 09:39 AM
This may just be another original Franklyn melody, but does there happen to be a name for the title card for "Hot Rod and Reel" and the bit where Bugs says he'll show Taz how to catch a moose in "Bill of Hare"?

Thad
09-18-2009, 11:12 PM
Does anyone know the name of the song Bradley uses at the beginning of "Slicked Up Pup", when Spike is washing Tyke, and throughout "Jerry's Cousin" and "Bird Brained Bird Dog"?

Matt the Y
09-18-2009, 11:28 PM
Does anyone know the name of the song Bradley uses at the beginning of "Slicked Up Pup", when Spike is washing Tyke, and throughout "Jerry's Cousin" and "Bird Brained Bird Dog"?

Thad,

That is "The Dickie Bird Song" by Sammy Fain.

Richie
10-02-2009, 05:19 PM
I hope someone can help me out with this. What's the tune that plays in Pluto's Blue Note? Not "You Belong To My Heart", but the instrumental one that he dances to in the music store.

Here's a link to the short in case you want your memory refreshed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlleFrhsgc

Jon Cooke
10-02-2009, 07:05 PM
I hope someone can help me out with this. What's the tune that plays in Pluto's Blue Note? Not "You Belong To My Heart", but the instrumental one that he dances to in the music store.

Here's a link to the short in case you want your memory refreshed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlleFrhsgc


It's called "Caxanga", which was going to be the subject of an unfinished short starring Donald (from the Saludos Amigos era). More information and a video can be found below:

http://www.2719hyperion.com/2008/02/caxanga.html

EDIT - Well, reading the blog comments, that may not be the song title. But that's where this song was originally going to be used in a Disney cartoon. :p

Speedy Boris
10-04-2009, 10:13 AM
Does there happen to be a name for the short melody played in "Beep Beep" when Wile and Road Runner are in the zig zag tunnel, right before Wile's hat light goes out? It's also heard throughout "The Mouse That Jack Built".

Richie
10-07-2009, 11:59 AM
It's called "Caxanga", which was going to be the subject of an unfinished short starring Donald (from the Saludos Amigos era). More information and a video can be found below:

http://www.2719hyperion.com/2008/02/caxanga.html

EDIT - Well, reading the blog comments, that may not be the song title. But that's where this song was originally going to be used in a Disney cartoon. :p

Apparentely, the song's name is "Slaves at Job", a popular Brazilian melody, according to the comments in Disneyshorts.org
BUT I thank you very much, Jon, for introducing me to that amazing, catchy, enjoyable short. Jose and Panchito needed more animated love, darn. Why they cancelled it and released stuff like Bee at the Beach instead is beyond my comprehension.

nickramer
10-07-2009, 01:10 PM
Hey, I like "Bee on the Beach". It was one my early cartoon memories. It was also highlighted in my Disney Shorts 2009 calender.

Speedy Boris
10-08-2009, 09:35 PM
What's the name of the music played in "Rabbit Romeo" when Millicent does her Slobovian "rock n' roll" dance? I've heard it elsewhere as well.

Also, is there a name for the piece that accompanies the undertaker gag in "Drip Along Daffy"?

Matt the Y
10-09-2009, 12:59 AM
I don't know if anyone here was wondering about the name of this particular piece or not but I figure I may as well tell the folks here anyway as part of this thread.

That ever-quoted Civil War ditty (played at the end of both "A Wild Hare" and "Bunker Hill Bunny" and also by proto-Bugs in "Porky's Hare Hunt" after declaring, "Of course, you know, this means war!") is "The Girl I Left Behind Me".

It's amazing how many of these seemingly-obscure tunes are becoming more and more recognized every day.

Speedy Boris
10-10-2009, 10:06 AM
I notice at imdb, somebody listed "Audition" by Arthur 'Archie' Koty as playing in "Fastest With the Mostest". I've never heard of the song or the author before. Two questions:

1) Does this play as the title card for the cartoon?
2) Is there anywhere online to listen to the song? A search literally turned up nothing.

Speedy Boris
10-11-2009, 02:03 PM
Identified another tune: The title card for "The Ducksters". It's "I'm in Love" by Jule Styne.

The "Chase"
10-11-2009, 06:15 PM
Identified another tune: The title card for "The Ducksters". It's "I'm in Love" by Jule Styne.

Sweet. I was wondering that one was!

So, does anyone know what's the tune is when Nasty Canasta is talking to Bugs after "speaking with his mom" in "Barbary-Coast Bunny"? It's also the same tune in the credits of "Invasors Of The Bunny Snatchers".

looneytooney
10-11-2009, 07:11 PM
Sweet. I was wondering that one was!

So, does anyone know what's the tune is when Nasty Canasta is talking to Bugs after "speaking with his mom" in "Barbary-Coast Bunny"? It's also the same tune in the credits of "Invasors Of The Bunny Snatchers".

That would be "Mysterious Mose".

It was a 1930 Betty Boop cartoon using the same song, and that same song was parodied in a 1938 Porky Pig called 'Wholly Smoke' called "Little Boys Should Not Smoke".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2rjEUpmzow

Thad
10-12-2009, 07:09 PM
OK - here's one for you real experts... What's the name of the tune used in the Columbia cartoon, THE SCHOONER THE BETTER, when the penguin and the buzzard are dancing? (around 3:57) It's also in RIVER RIBBER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PgyHI0o1KU

Speedy Boris
10-16-2009, 09:54 PM
This isn't from a WB cartoon, but does anybody know the name of the piece played during the Scottish gag in "TV of Tomorrow"? I know I've heard it before but I'm blanking on the name. ANSWERED: "Comin' Through the Rye"

Matt the Y
10-16-2009, 10:09 PM
This isn't from a WB cartoon, but does anybody know the name of the piece played during the Scottish gag in "TV of Tomorrow"? I know I've heard it before but I'm blanking on the name.

"Coming Through the Rye".

Speedy Boris
10-16-2009, 10:29 PM
"Coming Through the Rye". Huh. Guess I hadn't heard of it before, because that name's new to me. Thanks!

AndrewGilmore
11-15-2009, 02:33 PM
A tune called "So Help Me" by Eddie DeLange and Jimmy Van Heusen is used over the title card of "Hamateur Night".

Speedy Boris
11-15-2009, 03:47 PM
A tune called "So Help Me" by Eddie DeLange and Jimmy Van Heusen is used over the title card of "Hamateur Night". Nice, thanks! One more down...

AndrewGilmore
11-15-2009, 04:35 PM
Nice, thanks! One more down...

I just happened to hear it on an episode of "Your Hit Parade" from 1938, which, by the way, features Walter Tetley, and W.C. Fields!
http://www.archive.org/download/YourHitParade_OTR_3419/YourHitParade-381022StopBeatingRoundtheMulberryBush.mp3

Speedy Boris
11-19-2009, 07:37 PM
Hey. Go to the APM website (http://www.apmmusic.com/myapm/main.php) and search for "Silver Threads Among the Gold", in the album "Barber Shop/ Hawaii / Spirituals / Hymns". I'm almost 100% positive I've heard this in Looney Tunes, but I'm drawing a blank on where right now. Any help?

Speedy Boris
11-30-2009, 12:53 PM
I realize this quote is from a while back, but...
That's what it sounds like to me (again, we're both talking about the scene with the diver's helmet being painted around Bugs' head, right?). It's a bit run together but that tune sounds like the closest thing to what you're thinking of as near as I can hear. Having listened to a track on the APM site, I think this tune I asked about MIGHT be "Hebrides Op. 26", part of the Fingal's Cave Overture by Mendelssohn (do a search for this; it's in the Bruton album "Overtures BGC 4"). Sure sounds like it- what do you think?

Paul Penna
11-30-2009, 01:37 PM
I realize this quote is from a while back, but...
Having listened to a track on the APM site, I think this tune I asked about MIGHT be "Hebrides Op. 26", part of the Fingal's Cave Overture by Mendelssohn (do a search for this; it's in the Bruton album "Overtures BGC 4"). Sure sounds like it- what do you think?

The Rabbit Rampage diving helmet tune is Rocked in the Cradle of the Deep. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHWwHUrW3j8)

Speedy Boris
11-30-2009, 01:40 PM
The Rabbit Rampage diving helmet tune is Rocked in the Cradle of the Deep. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHWwHUrW3j8) You, good sir, are awesome. Thanks for solving a mystery!

Paul Penna
12-01-2009, 02:02 PM
What's the name of the music played in "Rabbit Romeo" when Millicent does her Slobovian "rock n' roll" dance? I've heard it elsewhere as well.

I can't put a name on that specific melody, but in general the music is the kind used in the Russian (or more properly, Ukrainian) folk dance variously called Cossack, hopak, gopak or trepak. Millicent does a variation on the stereotypical cartoon version in which the dancer squats and does a series of kicks, punctuated by periodic "Heys!" Bugs and Elmer do it toward the end of Hare Tonic ("Hey! You're not a doctor - you're that scwewy wabbit!"), and the music accompanies the Termiteski chewing off the airplane wing in Russian Rhapsody (with "Burps!" replacing the "Heys!"), to name but two of many examples.

That particular tune is used so much and is so familiar I wouldn't be surprised if it had been published in collections of generic photoplay and stage incidental music collections of the kind a veteran like Carl Stalling would have been familiar with.

Being a familiar and popular folk dance style, Russian composers sometimes incorporated a gopak/hopak/trepak in their works, either just the tempo or occasionally an actual folk melody. The most famous is the Trepak in Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker - in Fantasia, it's the one with the dancing thistles.

Speedy Boris
12-03-2009, 04:57 PM
According to imdb's "Porky's Poor Fish" entry, a song is listed called "I am Porky the Pig". However, I believe the song is actually "Oh Dear, What Can the Matter Be?", with new lyrics of course. I'll have to watch that again tonight, but I'm fairly certain about that.

looneytooney
12-03-2009, 07:15 PM
I can't put a name on that specific melody, but in general the music is the kind used in the Russian (or more properly, Ukrainian) folk dance variously called Cossack, hopak, gopak or trepak. Millicent does a variation on the stereotypical cartoon version in which the dancer squats and does a series of kicks, punctuated by periodic "Heys!" Bugs and Elmer do it toward the end of Hare Tonic ("Hey! You're not a doctor - you're that scwewy wabbit!"), and the music accompanies the Termiteski chewing off the airplane wing in Russian Rhapsody (with "Burps!" replacing the "Heys!"), to name but two of many examples.

That particular tune is used so much and is so familiar I wouldn't be surprised if it had been published in collections of generic photoplay and stage incidental music collections of the kind a veteran like Carl Stalling would have been familiar with.

Being a familiar and popular folk dance style, Russian composers sometimes incorporated a gopak/hopak/trepak in their works, either just the tempo or occasionally an actual folk melody. The most famous is the Trepak in Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker - in Fantasia, it's the one with the dancing thistles.

The melody is part of the Russian folk song, "Song of the Volga Boatmen".

Speedy Boris
12-03-2009, 09:09 PM
The melody is part of the Russian folk song, "Song of the Volga Boatmen". Really? I listened to a 3 minute rendition of the song and didn't hear that melody.

Paul Penna
12-03-2009, 10:37 PM
The melody is part of the Russian folk song, "Song of the Volga Boatmen".

'Fraid not.

The bulk of the music in Russian Rhapsody comes from Volga Boatmen, but not that gag with the Termiteski I mentioned, which is the melody in question.

AndrewGilmore
12-11-2009, 10:22 AM
In Fleischer's "Snow White" when :betty: is encased in ice and is taken into the "Mystery Cave" by the seven dwarfs, the song playing is called "Here Lies Love", introduced in Bing Crosby in 1932's "The Big Broadcast"!

Speedy Boris
12-18-2009, 12:04 AM
There's a tune in a couple of the Sam/Ralph shorts (such as "Ready, Woolen, and Able", or in "A Sheep in the Deep" during the balloon scene) that is similar in style to "Over the Waves" or "The Flying Trapeze", but it's different. Is this anything in particular? Or just another original melody created for the shorts?

looneytooney
12-19-2009, 05:00 PM
What's the piece of music that occurs in Porky and Gabby...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqD6m9WTKI

...at around 6:23-6:41?

It also occurs in Porky's Hare Hunt at around 5:28...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7TlsEOzC4Y

...and at the chase scene between Bugs and the Eskimo in Frigid Hare at around 4:49?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLDQU1OXgtU

AndrewGilmore
12-20-2009, 09:58 PM
What's the piece of music that occurs in Porky and Gabby...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqD6m9WTKI

...at around 6:23-6:41?

It also occurs in Porky's Hare Hunt at around 5:28...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7TlsEOzC4Y

...and at the chase scene between Bugs and the Eskimo in Frigid Hare at around 4:49?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLDQU1OXgtU

I've been wondering about that one myself. Don't know it, though.

AndrewGilmore
01-03-2010, 09:13 PM
"Please Be Kind" is used twice in "Cinderella Meets Fella".

looneytooney
01-09-2010, 01:29 PM
What's the piece of music that occurs in Porky and Gabby...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqD6m9WTKI

...at around 6:23-6:41?

It also occurs in Porky's Hare Hunt at around 5:28...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7TlsEOzC4Y

...and at the chase scene between Bugs and the Eskimo in Frigid Hare at around 4:49?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLDQU1OXgtU

I also found the song being played at 4:55 - 6:14 in Porky's Naughty Nephew.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_DX15v-dLI

Speedy Boris
01-13-2010, 11:39 AM
Looking through some of the old Termite Terrace posts, I can cross off another mystery from my list: The title card for "Boobs in the Woods", as well as the scene in "A Ham in a Role" when the gophers first talk, is the song "There's Music In The Land". :)

AndrewGilmore
01-13-2010, 02:58 PM
Looking through some of the old Termite Terrace posts, I can cross off another mystery from my list: The title card for "Boobs in the Woods", as well as the scene in "A Ham in a Role" when the gophers first talk, is the song "There's Music In The Land". :)

Thanks! There's another one I had wondered about.

looneytooney
01-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Looking through some of the old Termite Terrace posts, I can cross off another mystery from my list: The title card for "Boobs in the Woods", as well as the scene in "A Ham in a Role" when the gophers first talk, is the song "There's Music In The Land". :)

Care to give us a link for that thread, Speedy, if you remember?

Speedy Boris
01-13-2010, 03:47 PM
Care to give us a link for that thread, Speedy, if you remember? Sure. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=1072117)

looneytooney
01-17-2010, 02:33 PM
Found another tune thanks to the poster on YouTube.

A Chopin piece can be heard in Chuck Jones' 1940 "Ghost Wanted". The piece is "Prelude, Op. 28, No. 6". It can be heard when the little ghost arrives at the mansion and where he tries to scare the bigger ghost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ch7sIzBPPc
Here's the cartoon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcl-Z3NBY3M
And here's the tune.

mickeyfender
01-18-2010, 01:42 PM
Hi,

This is my first post, and I wanted to introduce myself to the forum. I also wanted to say what a great thread this is, and how much I look forward to picking everyone's brain regarding my own set of "mystery tunes", as well as helping out whenever I can.

I already have my first real post ready, but it's a little long, so I'll just post it separately.

MickeyFender

mickeyfender
01-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Okay, here it is:

I have a question or two regarding "Beauty and the Beast", both the song (Ruby-Kalmar, 1934), and the picture (WB, 1934).

I'd like to know if anybody out there has any versions of the song "Beauty and the Beast" by Ruby & Kalmar available for listening. What I have in mind would be a link to a 78 uploaded to a web site (youtube, dailymotion, etc.), or perhaps somebody playing it on piano from the original sheet music and uploading it (preferably with lyrics). Or perhaps an mp3. You get the idea.

The reason I'm asking is in order to confirm that the Looney Tunes theme song listed on-line (see below) is in fact "Beauty and the Beast" by Kalmar & Ruby.

Knowing what we know about WB's policy of promoting its song catalogue via cartoons produced by Schlesinger, it stands to reason that the featured song of a cartoon called "Beauty and the Beast" would be a song called "Beauty and the Beast".

And it turns out that it is. The featured song is first sung as "Welcome Little Girl" (identified as such by Will Friedwald in his book with Jerry Beck), but is sung as "Beauty and the Beast" the second time it comes around in the picture.

The issue revolves around the fact that the theme song listed on-line and the featured song in the cartoon aren't at all the same. All it takes is a listen.

Theme tune listed on-line, without lyrics:
http://bosko.toonzone.net/titles/

Cartoon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBGtlyu0RCk

Now, it again stands to reason that the Ruby-Kalmar song is the song being promoted in the cartoon, as they both came out in 1934, and the Ruby-Kalmar song was published by Remick, a WB publishing house. And Ruby & Kalmar were by no means an unknown songwriting team.

So if that is indeed the case, then what does that make the theme song that's touted as being "Beauty and the Beast"? They can't both be the Ruby-Kalmar song.

What I additionally find questionable is that the web site says that the Ruby-Kalmar tune was used from 1933-1936, when the earliest date for the song I could find was 1934. I suppose it's possible (though not likely) that a song could be used before it's officially published, but remember that the theme song doesn't sound anything like the featured song in the cartoon.

So if anyone could provide an upload or mp3 that could confirm this one way or the other, you'd help toward clearing up a question that's been bugging me for quite a while.

MickeyFender

mickeyfender
01-19-2010, 12:30 PM
Today, after a little more digging, I ran across this page:

http://www.cartoonresearch.com/warner.html

Scroll down the page about halfway, and there's a photo of the sheet music for "Beauty and the Beast" which confirms beyond a doubt that the featured song from the cartoon is the Harry Ruby-Bert Kalmar song.

So that still leaves the question -- what is the name of the Looney Tunes theme song from 1933-1936?

Any ideas? Or any ideas on where to start looking?

In the meantime, I'm going to try to contact the web administrator over at Toon Zone, and see if I can find what his source(s) were.

AndrewGilmore
01-20-2010, 10:28 PM
There's kind of a conundrum with this one: I just found out, thanks to an OTR show called "Mirth and Madness", that the song used throughout "Dog Tired" (and in one or two others, I forget which) is..well, it's pronounced "Tikki-tee Tikki-ta", but as far as Googling it to find any recordings of it, I can't figure out how to spell it correctly!

Jon Cooke
01-20-2010, 11:18 PM
There's kind of a conundrum with this one: I just found out, thanks to an OTR show called "Mirth and Madness", that the song used throughout "Dog Tired" (and in one or two others, I forget which) is..well, it's pronounced "Tikki-tee Tikki-ta", but as far as Googling it to find any recordings of it, I can't figure out how to spell it correctly!

I wrote about this tune on the Misce-Looney-ous blog (http://toolooney.blogspot.com/2008/04/musical-mystery-solved.html) awhile ago. It's Louis Prima's "Tica Ti Tica Ta". It can also be heard in "Porky's Cafe" and "Muscle Tussle".

AndrewGilmore
01-21-2010, 09:24 AM
I wrote about this tune on the Misce-Looney-ous blog (http://toolooney.blogspot.com/2008/04/musical-mystery-solved.html) awhile ago. It's Louis Prima's "Tica Ti Tica Ta". It can also be heard in "Porky's Cafe" and "Muscle Tussle".

Gracias, Señor Cooke! :speedy:

Speedy Boris
01-23-2010, 10:35 AM
Is there a name for the melody that plays in "The Windblown Hare" when Bugs comes across the straw house?

mickeyfender
01-25-2010, 01:20 PM
I've got a short list of WB cartoons that have musical numbers for which I'm seeking titles. Maybe the experts at GAC Forums can help?


Porky's Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Fn6unQ8H4) -- song when Porky reads the telegram from the Tapioca Hotel (about 0:46 mark), as well as a couple of times afterward

Lights Fantatstic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz1f5za_TJo) -- Latin-flavored tune at the end (Egyptian Cigarettes, etc.) (tune starts about 5:39)

Wabbit Twouble (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i11dg1EtWwA) -- Played when Elmer sets up camp (about 1:41) -- also the song when Bugs paints Elmer's glasses (about 2:49)

Water, Water Every Hare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLCoumFSKFU) -- Classical piece when the scientist is on the ladder talking to the robot (about 1:55) -- Also the short classical clip when Bugs first runs into the lab, just before finding the vanishing fluid (about 4:44); might be a Stalling original

Porky's Preview (http://www.revver.com/video/830589/porky-pig-porkys-preview/) -- March music for the parade with the band and elephants (about 2:38) -- Also the short clip of music at the beginning of the horse race (about 3:54); might be a Stalling original -- Also the music for the ballet bit (about 5:16) -- (sorry, this link won't parse properly; it should read "/porky-pig-porkys-preview/")

Love and Curses (http://vodpod.com/watch/458922-love-and-curses) -- Music at the beginning during the "Foreword"; the same tune is also played during the penny arcade/nickelodeon sequence (about 1:28)l; Also the music during the extended sequence when Emily is tied to the railroad tracks and Harold runs to save her (beginning about 6:00)

Wild Wife (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCndBmW1SdI) -- Tune when Marsha comes out of Lacy's laden with packages (about 4:14); Also the tune(s) during the Nifty Drugs scene (starting about 4:26)


Well, that's about it (for right now). Any help is appreciated.

mickeyfender

Speedy Boris
01-26-2010, 12:23 PM
Wild Wife (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCndBmW1SdI) -- Tune when Marsha comes out of Lacy's laden with packages (about 4:14); Also the tune(s) during the Nifty Drugs scene (starting about 4:26) I've been wondering this one myself. It's also the title card for "A Street Cat Named Sylvester".

mickeyfender
01-27-2010, 11:25 AM
Speedy Boris,

I guess you don't have access to cue sheets any more than I do. Oh well, hopefully somewhere along the line someone will recognize it, as well as all the others asked about in this forum.

Speaking of cue sheets, earlier in this thread, I brought up the possibility that the song "Beauty and the Beast" is incorrectly claimed to be the LT theme music from 1933-1936. This claim apparently comes from the fact that the cue sheets from that period (with one significant exception) are labeled this way.

I'm trying to get hold of the sheet music for Beauty and the Beast, so this question can be put to rest, once and for all. I'll post the results if and when I'm successful. My money's on the cue sheets being mislabeled, in this case.

MF

Speedy Boris
01-31-2010, 09:51 AM
I've identified a new tune. It's called "So Dumb But So Beautiful" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S44eWY4hp3w) by M.K. Jerome (heard in the 1944 film "Shine On Harvest Moon"), and it's heard as the title card for "Feline Frame-Up". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8AQLwxJzF4) :)

mickeyfender
01-31-2010, 12:11 PM
Nice goin', Boris!

Seems like I've heard that one in some others, as well.

Matt the Y
01-31-2010, 12:46 PM
I've identified a new tune. It's called "So Dumb But So Beautiful" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S44eWY4hp3w) by M.K. Jerome (heard in the 1944 film "Shine On Harvest Moon"), and it's heard as the title card for "Feline Frame-Up". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8AQLwxJzF4) :)

It's also played near the end of "Hare Conditoned" with Bugs on the rooftop with "Gildersneeze" trying to frighten him by telling him of the scary book he read with the "Frankinsence" monster, in "Hare Tonic" with Bugs realizing, "I can't leave, I gotta stay and heckle that character!", and repeatedly throughout Frank Tashlin's masterpiece "A Tale of Two Mice".

mickeyfender
01-31-2010, 12:55 PM
Nice goin', Matt!

Sounds like you're keeping a list. If you've got any rare ones, why not clue us in?

AndrewGilmore
02-01-2010, 07:47 AM
I just uncovered another one. You've all heard "Forty-Second Street", but did you know that there's a song called "Fifty-Second Street"? It's used throughout "Porky's Building".

Speedy Boris
02-01-2010, 09:20 AM
I just uncovered another one. You've all heard "Forty-Second Street", but did you know that there's a song called "Fifty-Second Street"? It's used throughout "Porky's Building". Who composed it?

mickeyfender
02-01-2010, 10:25 AM
Nice goin', Andrew!

Boris, the song "Fifty-Second Street" was written by Saul Chaplin (music) and Sammy Cahn (lyrics) and first appeared in the Vitaphone short "Sound Defects" in 1937.

looneytooney
02-01-2010, 03:36 PM
I just uncovered another one. You've all heard "Forty-Second Street", but did you know that there's a song called "Fifty-Second Street"? It's used throughout "Porky's Building".

:eek: THAT'S what that song is! Thanks, Andrew!

Speedy Boris
02-01-2010, 07:58 PM
In case anybody wants to listen to 52nd Street outside of "Porky's Building", it's on this page. (http://www.redhotjazz.com/cloudsofjoy.html)

Did this song happen to play in any other LT shorts?

AndrewGilmore
02-01-2010, 10:24 PM
In case anybody wants to listen to 52nd Street outside of "Porky's Building", it's on this page. (http://www.redhotjazz.com/cloudsofjoy.html)

Did this song happen to play in any other LT shorts?

Hmmmmm.....could be! But I don't remember offhand. I'm sure somebody else can confirm it.

looneytooney
02-06-2010, 11:29 AM
In case this is news to anybody (it's been identified on another thread), this song playing at the opening scene of Hold the Lion Please...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu3pJ_7r7cQ

...it also plays at 2:09-3:15 in Tortoise Wins by a Hare...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSWjXvr4E1M

...and at 3:21-4:15 in You Were Never Duckier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AenzEs49CjY

...it's a song entitled T'aint No Good by Leo Wood and Ray Jacobs. It was recorded in 1942 by Cab Calloway and his orchestra.

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3c/OKEC4182.mp3

Speedy Boris
02-06-2010, 02:47 PM
In case this is news to anybody (it's been identified on another thread), this song playing at the opening scene of Hold the Lion Please...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu3pJ_7r7cQ

...it also plays at 2:09-3:15 in Tortoise Wins by a Hare...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSWjXvr4E1M

...and at 3:21-4:15 in You Were Never Duckier...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AenzEs49CjY

...it's a song entitled T'aint No Good by Leo Wood and Ray Jacobs. It was recorded in 1942 by Cab Calloway and his orchestra.

http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3c/OKEC4182.mp3 Huh. I didn't even realize that was anything in particular. Nice find!

BTW, does "Painting the Clouds With Sunshine" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCtjetPWTM) happen to play in any other LT shorts besides "Sinkin' in the Bathtub"? It sounds so familiar...

Matt the Y
02-06-2010, 03:03 PM
BTW, does "Painting the Clouds With Sunshine" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCtjetPWTM) happen to play in any other LT shorts besides "Sinkin' in the Bathtub"? It sounds so familiar...

Isn't that the tune that plays repeatedly throughout (ugghhh....) "Fiesta Fiasco" [1967] during pretty much every scene with Daffy's rain cloud? If so, there's an example.

mickeyfender
02-06-2010, 06:49 PM
Tain't No Good is a great get. I never really noticed it either. Just want to correct the songwriters. They're actually Guy Wood & Al Jacobs. You can find the song listed on ASCAP using this search page:

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?mode=search (they don't allow you to link directly to search results)

Here's a link to the Guy Wood page at the Database of Popular Music. Tain't No Good is the first listing:

http://www.dbopm.com/link/index/4201/663

MF

Speedy Boris
02-06-2010, 07:14 PM
Isn't that the tune that plays repeatedly throughout (ugghhh....) "Fiesta Fiasco" [1967] during pretty much every scene with Daffy's rain cloud? If so, there's an example. Ah, that's it. I knew I heard it somewhere. (of course, in "Fiesta Fiasco" it's played VERY off-key)

looneytooney
02-06-2010, 07:49 PM
Two mystery songs on my new DailyMotion:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4xga_mystery-song-1_shortfilms
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4xgk_mystery-song-2_shortfilms

mickeyfender
02-06-2010, 07:50 PM
Isn't that the tune that plays repeatedly throughout (ugghhh....) "Fiesta Fiasco" [1967] during pretty much every scene with Daffy's rain cloud? If so, there's an example.

I just watched Fiesta Fiasco for what I believe to be the first time in my life and, yes, that's Painting the Clouds with Sunshine, all right. It's also six minutes of my life I'll never get back.

MF

mickeyfender
02-06-2010, 08:04 PM
Two mystery songs on my new DailyMotion:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4xga_mystery-song-1_shortfilms
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4xgk_mystery-song-2_shortfilms


I was just about to get another list together of my own mystery songs when I looked at your post, and believe it or not that second song was going to be on the list. So thanks for saving me the trouble. I just hope someone knows it as I've wanted to know what it is for the longest time. The first video doesn't seem to be up yet.

MF

mickeyfender
02-06-2010, 09:13 PM
Here's a tune I just discovered. Perhaps you guys already know it. It's called "From Me to You" and it plays in "Bosko's Mechanical Man" during the scene when Bosko is assembling the mechanical man. I know I've heard it in other WB cartoons (as well as in at least half a dozen features), so I was hoping somebody might recognize it and steer me to which cartoons it's in.

Here's Bosko's Mechanical Man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI1ki_aHWi8

It's played rather fast in the Bosko picture, and I haven't been able to find an mp3 of it, but a clip of a more representative version of the song can be heard here:
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=17:1644136~3~T000 (http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=17:1644136%7E3%7ET000)

Just listen to either of the Al Bowlly clips (they're actually two different clips), and you'll get the idea.

MF

AndrewGilmore
02-06-2010, 11:44 PM
Sometimes I wish Mr. Goldmark would publish the cue sheets someplace where all curious souls like us could access the information on them. I've sent him the same email several times over the last six months or so and have yet to hear from him.

mickeyfender
02-06-2010, 11:52 PM
Sometimes I wish Mr. Goldmark would publish the cue sheets someplace where all curious souls like us could access the information on them. I've sent him the same email several times over the last six months or so and have yet to hear from him.

Is this in reference to anything specific?

AndrewGilmore
02-07-2010, 01:39 AM
Is this in reference to anything specific?

No, just that there are so many "mystery songs" in so many cartoons that I wish there were someplace we could easily look them up for oursevles.

Fibber Fox
02-07-2010, 06:10 AM
No, just that there are so many "mystery songs" in so many cartoons that I wish there were someplace we could easily look them up for oursevles.

The cue sheets obviously exist somewhere. Go right to the source. Send a letter or something. Offer to pay for copies.

F. Fox
http://yowpyowp.blogspot.com

Speedy Boris
02-07-2010, 09:53 AM
Another method to identifying songs used in Looney Tunes is going through the list of musical films by year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_films_by_year) (make sure to exclude anything not by WB), going to their imdb listings (under soundtrack), then seeing if the songs are able to be listened to somewhere.

Interestingly, musicals released by WB after about 1954 seem to get really slim, while they still go strong at MGM for a little while longer.

looneytooney
02-07-2010, 10:19 AM
I mentioned this in another post, but for all people who don't remember, the song playing at the scene where Porky battles the vultures like a WWI dogfight in Porky's Poultry Plant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWXHTUf7aOo), the one playing around 5:17-5:42 in Wise Quacks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCDSvN9QMVg). It also plays during the scene where the police try to capture the convict near the end of Bars and Stripes Forever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK4k_NXd7D8).

According to Tunes for 'Toons by Daniel Goldmark, the song is a J.S. Zamecnik cue: Furiouso #2.

JERRY BECK
02-08-2010, 02:21 AM
I haven't been reading this thread, but I got a letter recently from a Devon Baxter. He asked about a song in MISSISSIPPI HARE. If he is reading this: your email address would not allow me to respond to you.

Your question was:

I have a song query that needs to be cracked down. What is the song
that plays in Mississippi Hare when Bugs comes out dressed as a
Southern gentleman before he meets Colonel Shuffle?

Answer: It's called A SOLID CITIZEN OF THE SOLID SOUTH by Leo Robin and Arthur Schwartz - and the song was introduced in the 1946 Warner Bros.
feature, The Time, the Place and the Girl.

AndrewGilmore
02-08-2010, 03:26 AM
I haven't been reading this thread, but I got a letter recently from a Devon Baxter. He asked about a song in MISSISSIPPI HARE. If he is reading this: your email address would not allow me to respond to you.

Your question was:

I have a song query that needs to be cracked down. What is the song
that plays in Mississippi Hare when Bugs comes out dressed as a
Southern gentleman before he meets Colonel Shuffle?

Answer: It's called A SOLID CITIZEN OF THE SOLID SOUTH by Leo Robin and Arthur Schwartz - and the song was introduced in the 1946 Warner Bros.
feature, The Time, the Place and the Girl.

Thanks, Jerry! I've been wondering about that one myself. It's also used as Foghorn's theme in "A Fractured Leghorn" and Sureshot's theme in "The Pest Who Came to Dinner."
I taped "The Time, the Place and the Girl" off of TCM years ago and have yet to watch it. I guess I- ah say, I guess I should! Should, that is!

looneytooney
02-08-2010, 03:57 PM
I haven't been reading this thread, but I got a letter recently from a Devon Baxter. He asked about a song in MISSISSIPPI HARE. If he is reading this: your email address would not allow me to respond to you.

Your question was:

I have a song query that needs to be cracked down. What is the song
that plays in Mississippi Hare when Bugs comes out dressed as a
Southern gentleman before he meets Colonel Shuffle?

Answer: It's called A SOLID CITIZEN OF THE SOLID SOUTH by Leo Robin and Arthur Schwartz - and the song was introduced in the 1946 Warner Bros.
feature, The Time, the Place and the Girl.

Oh, that was me, Jerry. Thanks so much for answering my question.

looneytooney
02-08-2010, 09:20 PM
Is that song in "Hare-Um Scare-Um" that Bugs sings an original or a parody of a song? It also plays in the opening credits of Nutty News and is the 'Easter Rabbit' song in Easter Yeggs.

JERRY BECK
02-08-2010, 09:46 PM
Is that song in "Hare-Um Scare-Um" that Bugs sings an original or a parody of a song? It also plays in the opening credits of Nutty News and is the 'Easter Rabbit' song in Easter Yeggs.

As far as I know, that was a Stalling original.

Speedy Boris
02-09-2010, 12:39 AM
Got a riddle for you guys. Everybody knows "Hooray For Hollywood", but what is the name of this tune (http://www.supload.com/listen?s=zsm1iB) that typically plays whenever Hollywood is in a scene? The above clip was from Tiny Toons, but it's also heard in The Simpsons, and may have played in Looney Tunes as well, I forget. Any help would be appreciated.

AndrewGilmore
02-09-2010, 05:27 AM
As far as I know, that was a Stalling original.

Correct. It's entitled "Woo Woo". I noticed, btw, that it's also used in "Daffy Duck and the Dinosaur", which came out before "Hare-um Scare-um".

Matt the Y
02-09-2010, 11:25 AM
Correct. It's entitled "Woo Woo". I noticed, btw, that it's also used in "Daffy Duck and the Dinosaur", which came out before "Hare-um Scare-um".

And it's also heard in "Porky in Egypt" [1938] which also came out before "Hare-Um Scare-Um" (it's heard in the BG during the scene where the camel flips out one last time, complete with his Lew Lehr imitation, "Camels is da cwaziest peoples", before realizing "the heat got to me", and then heading back to town with Porky before he has the chance to go crazy again).

mickeyfender
02-09-2010, 04:05 PM
Once again, you folks might already know this song, but I was on Wikipedia looking at their list of LT&MMs, and I noticed that they refer to the song that Yosemite Sam sings while playing the banjo in The Fair-Haired Hare, and that Daffy sings in A Coy Decoy, as Git Along, Little Dogies. Well, not anymore, as I corrected it.

Anyway, the song is actually I Can't Get Along Little Dogie, written by M.K. Jerome and Jack Scholl, and was featured in the WB/Vitaphone short Cliff Edwards and His Buckaroos (1941).

MF

Edit: I just noticed that my corrections to this cartoon's listing, as well as many others that I made today, have all been deleted. So as the result of Wikipedia's infinite wisdom, all improvements that I made to their site today are null and void. What a waste of my time and effort.

looneytooney
02-09-2010, 06:36 PM
Is the song playing at around 5:19-5:34 and 5:55-6:09 in The Daffy Duckaroo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6gUsZmFZaU)
and the scene in You Oughta Be in Pictures (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXjI2Pks24) that plays at around 6:15-6:32 the same as 'In the Stirrups'?

mickeyfender
02-09-2010, 07:58 PM
Is the song playing at around 5:19-5:34 and 5:55-6:09 in The Daffy Duckaroo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6gUsZmFZaU)
and the scene in You Oughta Be in Pictures (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXjI2Pks24) that plays at around 6:15-6:32 the same as 'In the Stirrups'?


I don't think so. I know of two sections for "In the Stirrups", so unless that's a third section, then it's not part of the tune.

mickeyfender
02-10-2010, 09:53 AM
Okay, here's another list of mystery tunes:

Porky & Daffy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSKYmuoFiJo) -- Tune during the opening scene when Porky picks up the newspaper -- Also the tune playing when people are streaming into the stadium (about the 1:55 mark) -- Also the tune that plays when the Champ climbs onto a stool after Porky cracks a whip at him and Daffy is introduced by the referee (about 3:30) -- three tunes total

Hare Trigger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1L8BKbp3Hs) -- Tune at the beginning when the trains pass each other (this tune was later used as Headin' for My Beddin' in Hair-Raising Hare); it's probably a Stalling original -- Classical music played when Bugs is sitting on top of Sam's head (about 5:00) -- Also the classical music when Sam thinks he's dying (about 5:35) -- Also the piece played when the train crosses the trestle toward the end (about 6:54) -- four tunes total

Mississippi Hare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCQhZ3pdbkA) -- Novelty tune that plays when the chivalrous gentleman walks off the boat (about 7:23); this tune is in a number of other cartoons (You Were Never Duckier, for one; see below)

The Pest That Came to Dinner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZFN7CirC24) -- Short snippet of music played as Porky sneaks up on Pierre with a spray gun (about 3:01)

You Were Never Duckier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AenzEs49CjY) -- Tune that plays when Daffy puts the rubber glove on his head and looks in the mirror (about 1:10) -- Also the tune when Henery arrives at the poultry show (about 2:28) -- Also the novelty tune that plays briefly when George puts on the chef's hat and Henery puts down the plate (about 5:28; also at 5:52) (same as in Mississippi Hare) -- Also the classical piece played when Daffy tells George that he's making a ghastly mistake (about 5:35) -- four tunes total

Baby Bottleneck (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojpGKCNgaLw) -- Tune that plays when the dog appears with a rocket and an idea to speed up deliveries (about 2:41)

Hollywood Canine Canteen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9v8tzTuZg) -- Tune played when the Bing Crosby dog greets the servicedogs and the dog checks his coat (about 1:00) -- Also the tune played during the Jack Benny/Jerry Colonna bit (about 1:18) -- Also the tune played during the sheepdog bit as the girl passes by (about 2:01) -- three tunes total

Porky's Building (no link) -- The latin-flavored tune when the camel shakes the concrete -- Also the tune played when Porky says "Woe is me" -- two tunes total

Gorilla My Dreams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7f4vPcROE) -- Classical piece when the mother gorilla is crying (about 2:58) -- Also the tune played briefly when Bugs walks away from the cliff edge while appealing to Gruesome (about 6:28)

Bosko's Mechanical Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI1ki_aHWi8) -- Both tunes that play when Bosko and Honey are chased down the street (beginning about 5:48; second tune starts at about 6:15)

Well, that's about it for right now. Hope that's enough. As always, any help is appreciated.

MF

looneytooney
02-10-2010, 10:40 AM
Porky & Daffy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSKYmuoFiJo) -- Also the tune playing when people are streaming into the stadium (about the 1:55 mark) --


That song is I'm Feeling High and Happy. It's in Porky in Wackyland in the opening titles.

AndrewGilmore
02-10-2010, 11:25 AM
Mississippi Hare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCQhZ3pdbkA) -- Novelty tune that plays when the chivalrous gentleman walks off the boat (about 7:23); this tune is in a number of other cartoons (You Were Never Duckier, for one; see below)


This has been asked about several times now. For the record, it's a Stalling original and, as far as I know, it doesn't have a name.

looneytooney
02-10-2010, 11:52 AM
This has been asked about several times now. For the record, it's a Stalling original and, as far as I know, it doesn't have a name.

That's correct. He incorporated that tune as early as the Iwerks days, particularly The Headless Horseman.

mickeyfender
02-10-2010, 12:06 PM
Thanks guys, apparently I didn't scour the old music and song threads as well as I thought I did.

And thanks for "I'm Feeling High and Happy". That's a new one on me, for sure. Took a little while to locate it, as the title is really "Feelin' High and Happy". But I have it now. Thanks again.

MF

Cartman
02-10-2010, 12:12 PM
Tex Avery's HOUSE OF TOMORROW - The tune played whenever the mother-in-law is referenced. This tune is also sung by Oswald and his grandmother at the beginning of the cartoon WONDERLAND.

Paul Penna
02-10-2010, 05:38 PM
Gorilla My Dreams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7f4vPcROE) -- Classical piece when the mother gorilla is crying (about 2:58)

Originally "Danube Waves" by Iosif Ivanovici from roughly 1880. In 1946, melody used in the popular song by Al Jolson, "The Anniversary Waltz," by which it's most widely known.

Paul Penna
02-10-2010, 05:48 PM
Hare Trigger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1L8BKbp3Hs) -- Classical music played when Bugs is sitting on top of Sam's head (about 5:00) -- Also the classical music when Sam thinks he's dying (about 5:35) -- Also the piece played when the train crosses the trestle toward the end

I could be wrong, of course, but none of those are familiar as classical pieces to me. They do have the sound of photoplay music, particularly the familiar one at the end; classic cliffhanger music.

mickeyfender
02-10-2010, 05:59 PM
Tex Avery's HOUSE OF TOMORROW - The tune played whenever the mother-in-law is referenced. This tune is also sung by Oswald and his grandmother at the beginning of the cartoon WONDERLAND.

The song is When You and I Were Young, Maggie, by George W. Johnson & James A. Butterfield

MF

mickeyfender
02-10-2010, 06:43 PM
Originally "Danube Waves" by Iosif Ivanovici from roughly 1880. In 1946, melody used in the popular song by Al Jolson, "The Anniversary Waltz," by which it's most widely known.

I'm actually somewhat familiar with Danube Waves, but I guess I don't have the beginning melody committed to memory yet. I probably will from now on.

MF

looneytooney
02-11-2010, 06:19 PM
What is the name of the tune that plays in Porky's Party where he is delivered the silkworm and in Cracked Ice when WC Squeals is heckled by Charlie McCarthy?

mickeyfender
02-11-2010, 10:49 PM
What is the name of the tune that plays in Porky's Party where he is delivered the silkworm and in Cracked Ice when WC Squeals is heckled by Charlie McCarthy?

That's actually the very first tune I asked about in my first "mystery song" post, though I described it differently (page 13).

I didn't realize it's in Cracked Ice, though

AndrewGilmore
02-12-2010, 11:03 AM
Anyone know these?

1. The classical piece used in "Joe Glow the Firefly" (2:27-57 and again at 5:13-5:35):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEoG5JUvBo

2. The song playing in "Porky's Picnic" from 0:29-1:02, 1:58-2:30 and 3:10-3:51, also briefly whistled by Elmer in "Elmer's Candid Camera" (1:02-1:11):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulxuYD88flQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVxSWBAtmM

3. The song playing throughout the first half of "Porky's Super Service" (0:28-2:46):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lp5FWCWkc

looneytooney
02-12-2010, 11:53 AM
Anyone know these?

1. The classical piece used in "Joe Glow the Firefly" (2:27-57 and again at 5:13-5:35):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEoG5JUvBo

The same tune plays in Robin Hood Makes Good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W24ErpYl6FY) (around 4:47-5:24) and briefly in The Hare-Brained Hypnotist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKeHHaDdO8) (at around :44-:57).

Sounds like A Midsummer Night's Dream Overture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h1MGAlkqno&feature=related).

Paul Penna
02-12-2010, 12:46 PM
Anyone know these?

1. The classical piece used in "Joe Glow the Firefly" (2:27-57 and again at 5:13-5:35):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEoG5JUvBo

The same tune plays in Robin Hood Makes Good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W24ErpYl6FY) (around 4:47-5:24) and briefly in The Hare-Brained Hypnotist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKeHHaDdO8) (at around :44-:57).

Sounds like A Midsummer Night's Dream Overture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h1MGAlkqno&feature=related).

Close; actually it's the Fairies' March (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUUnsIsTdkI) from Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream incidental music.

AndrewGilmore
02-12-2010, 02:13 PM
Close; actually it's the Fairies' March (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUUnsIsTdkI) from Mendelssohn's Midsummer Night's Dream incidental music.

Thank you, Paul! I actually had listened to the link looneytooney provided myself immediately before my post asking about the piece in question, so I knew it wasn't the Overture.

AndrewGilmore
02-12-2010, 08:13 PM
While trying to solve the mysteries of "Porky's Picnic" and "Porky's Super Service" by going through a bunch of late '30s records, I stumbled on the solution to another mystery which I never would have even considered!
"Just a Simple Melody" plays several times in "Porky's Spring Planting":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_tiq_dtjd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfg75QqffY

mickeyfender
02-12-2010, 09:16 PM
I've been hoping for something like this. I'm familiar with the song, and I knew it was in a cartoon or two. I just couldn't remember which one(s). Thanks, Andrew!

looneytooney
02-14-2010, 02:02 PM
That's actually the very first tune I asked about in my first "mystery song" post, though I described it differently (page 13).

I didn't realize it's in Cracked Ice, though

It's played at around 3:53 to 4:25. Listen for yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WomT6tM5kjg)

mickeyfender
02-17-2010, 04:40 PM
Here's my latest Mystery Tune installment. As always, any help is appreciated.

Speaking of the Weather (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxgDb5irHrs) -- Tune that plays right after Bob Burns busts his bazooka (1:06 mark)

Hillbilly Hare (http://www.trilulilu.ro/mitzud/b1a5d8b28c4432?video_google_com=) -- Tune that's played when Bugs asks the Martin boys to help practice for the square dance (3:49 mark)

The Isle of Pingo Pongo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbNrpx4fehM) -- Music that plays as the gazelles zip by (3:18 mark) -- Also the tune that plays when the gazelle shows off her figure (3:31 mark)

Daffy Duck & Egghead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqFAmMpBTo) -- Tune that plays during the disclaimer (0:41 mark)

Canary Row (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZTOgx9qNo) -- Tune that plays when the desk clerk answers the telephone (4:02 mark)

Joe Glow, the Firefly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEoG5JUvBo) -- Music that plays during the opening shot of the exterior and interior of the tent (0:21 mark) -- Also the music that plays when Joe walks onto the cracker (3:53 mark; again at 4:47 when Joe walks toward the pepper shaker) -- Also the melody that plays when Joe walks back to the shaker cap and pulls out his lamp (5:42 mark) -- three tunes total

Porky's Spring Planting (no video) -- Tune that plays when Streamline drills holes with his tail and plants seeds; Same tune plays when Porky makes his proposal to the chickens

Foney Fables (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W-B-PcdliU) -- Tune that plays when A Book of Fairy Tales is shown (0:35 mark) -- Also tune played at the beginning of the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing segment (4:08 mark)

That's it till the next batch.

MF

Paul Penna
02-17-2010, 08:30 PM
Daffy Duck & Egghead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqFAmMpBTo) -- Tune that plays during the disclaimer (0:41 mark)

Civil war song Just Before the Battle Mother (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlWh7bFKeOw).

Paul Penna
02-17-2010, 08:37 PM
Joe Glow, the Firefly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEoG5JUvBo) -- Music that plays during the opening shot of the exterior and interior of the tent (0:21 mark)

Mendelssohn On the Wings of Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAPYlzkkqx4).

Paul Penna
02-17-2010, 08:54 PM
Foney Fables (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W-B-PcdliU) -- Tune that plays when A Book of Fairy Tales is shown (0:35 mark)

The Old Oaken Bucket (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI4ej8b1VeE).

Paul Penna
02-17-2010, 10:24 PM
Joe Glow, the Firefly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEoG5JUvBo) -- Also the melody that plays when Joe walks back to the shaker cap and pulls out his lamp (5:42 mark)

Sorry. Stalling uses that a lot, especially in "cute" cartoons - another example is in Eager Beaver during the running gag of the beaver giving directions to the crane operator. Sounds Mendelssohn-y or Tchaikovsky-y, but I haven't been able to place it. I'm pretty sure I once saw someone someplace sometime identify it, but I've forgotten.

mickeyfender
02-17-2010, 11:04 PM
Wow! That's great. Thanks a lot.

MF

Matt the Y
02-18-2010, 12:09 AM
The Old Oaken Bucket (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI4ej8b1VeE).

Is "Old Oaken Bucket" also the tune that plays in "Swallow the Leader" [1949] when the cat as Superman falls down the well (thanks to the swallow hooking his Superman costume to the well bucket) and then has to be hauled back up by the swallow cranking the well bucket up (seeing as how a bucket seems to be the drawing force of this gag, I wouldn't be surprised if it is)?

Speedy Boris
02-18-2010, 12:29 AM
There's another Hollywood-style tune that plays in Tiny Toons a few times: http://www.supload.com/listen?s=yMRUUD . I don't think it plays in Looney Tunes though. Anyone know if that happens to has a name? (turn it up; it's rather quiet)

And this (http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showpost.php?p=163308&postcount=156) didn't happen to be anything? I assume the lack of responses means that, but I just wanted to make sure.

mickeyfender
02-18-2010, 12:36 PM
Porky's Spring Planting (no video) -- Tune that plays when Streamline drills holes with his tail and plants seeds; Same tune plays when Porky makes his proposal to the chickens


It just occurred to me that AndrewGilmore had already posted a link to a video of Porky's Spring Planting, so if anyone wants to take a crack at it, here it is (the tune plays at 2:25 and again at 6:50):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_tiq_dtjd4

MF

looneytooney
02-18-2010, 06:18 PM
Guys, Daniel Goldmark unraveled another mystery for me. It's that song from 'Hop and Go' that plays throughout the cartoon and in 'The Wise Quacking Duck' where Daffy comes in as a fortune teller ('Greetings gate! Let's osculate!') Here's his message:

I'm sorry for taking so long to get back to you- let's just say it has been busy around here (toddler, summer vacation, etc.). Anyhow- the song you're asking about is from 1942 and is called "Giddap Mule, We've Got to Farm to Win This Fight," by Leonard Ware, who was born in 1909. Ware was a guitarist who played with Count Basie and Benny Goodman. Apparently (according to his biography in the ASCAP [American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers] Biographical Dictionary), "Giddap Mule" was "accepted by the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture," although exactly what this means isn't really clear....

I think this song is pretty rare- there's only one copy that I can find in the many online sheet music databases, and it's just a listing (no artwork, recording, nothing). Stalling only used it a couple of times- but (as you point out) it's a really, really swinging tune!

I found usage of that song in the Snafu cartoon, Gripes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbRbq3lcXms), around the :43 mark.
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Paul Penna
02-18-2010, 06:47 PM
Is "Old Oaken Bucket" also the tune that plays in "Swallow the Leader" [1949] when the cat as Superman falls down the well (thanks to the swallow hooking his Superman costume to the well bucket) and then has to be hauled back up by the swallow cranking the well bucket up (seeing as how a bucket seems to be the drawing force of this gag, I wouldn't be surprised if it is)?

Yep, that's it.

mickeyfender
02-18-2010, 07:34 PM
I found usage of that song in the Snafu cartoon, Gripes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbRbq3lcXms), around the :43 mark.


Thanks for the tip. What's even more impressive is that you got Daniel Goldmark to reply to your e-mail. He's never replied to mine.

On a side note, I did some checking around, and I found that Cootie Williams made a short for Columbia in 1943 called "Cootie Williams and His Orchestra", from the "Film Vodvil" series, in which he and his band play "Giddap Mule", with lead vocal by Laurel Watson. The short was available on Youtube as recently as March 2009, but has since been taken down for "terms of use violation".

AndrewGilmore
02-18-2010, 07:48 PM
I just watched the 1937 WB film "Hollywood Hotel", the DVD of which includes the cartoon "Porky's Five and Ten", due to the fact that the cartoon is littered with songs from "Hollywood Hotel", such as "Sing You Son-of-a-Gun" and "Let That Be a Lesson To You." However, both the film and the cartoon feature a song I had never heard before until now, called "Like a Fish Out of Water"- certainly appropriate for a cartoon all about fish!

mickeyfender
02-18-2010, 08:56 PM
I was just looking around to see if I could find some site with a listing of the sheet music for "Giddap Mule", and believe it or not, there's a listing on ebay right now for the actual sheet music itself. It ends the day after tomorrow, and the opening bid is 99¢. So if you want to at least take a look at the cover, here's the url:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1942-Giddap-Mule-Sheet-Music---NR_W0QQitemZ130366817234QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20100 216?IMSfp=TL100216141008r20376

MF

looneytooney
02-18-2010, 09:20 PM
I just watched the 1937 WB film "Hollywood Hotel", the DVD of which includes the cartoon "Porky's Five and Ten", due to the fact that the cartoon is littered with songs from "Hollywood Hotel", such as "Sing You Son-of-a-Gun" and "Let That Be a Lesson To You." However, both the film and the cartoon feature a song I had never heard before until now, called "Like a Fish Out of Water"- certainly appropriate for a cartoon all about fish!

What part does that song play in?

I was just looking around to see if I could find some site with a listing of the sheet music for "Giddap Mule", and believe it or not, there's a listing on ebay right now for the actual sheet music itself. It ends the day after tomorrow, and the opening bid is 99¢. So if you want to at least take a look at the cover, here's the url:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1942-Giddap-Mule-Sheet-Music---NR_W0QQitemZ130366817234QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20100 216?IMSfp=TL100216141008r20376

MF

Thanks, MF! If only there were a recording around.

mickeyfender
02-18-2010, 09:30 PM
What part does that song play in?

According to the IMDb:

"I'm Like a Fish out of Water" (that's the proper title; confirmed on Ascap's site)
Music by Richard A. Whiting
Played when the fish first sees Porky's boat.
Also played during the stage show.

MF

mickeyfender
02-18-2010, 09:40 PM
Thanks, MF! If only there were a recording around.

I saw on-line a mention in an old Billboard Magazine of a "March of Time" short about the food situation in America that was going to feature Giddap Mule, played by the Leonard Ware Trio. I haven't been able to confirm that it actually got made, though.

So the only recording I'm sure of is from that Cootie Williams short I mentioned earlier. You can be sure I'm gonna keep my eye out for it in case it ever gets uploaded again.

MF

Matt the Y
02-18-2010, 09:55 PM
Yep, that's it.

Ah-ha! Thanks!

Are there any other WB cartoons that quote this song? I'm just glad I finally know what the song is and what it sounds like (before now, I just knew it from being name-dropped in the 3 Stooges short, "Three Loan Wolves" [1946]. Larry has a violin and asks if they want him to play a number. Moe or Curly suggest something like "The Old Oaken Bucket". Naturally, later in the same scene, Moe gets cross with Larry and smashes the violin in two over Larry's head. Surprisingly, water comes out of it! Larry, astonished, asks, "Where'd the water come from?" Moe replies, "From the old oaken bucket!").

mickeyfender
02-18-2010, 10:04 PM
Speaking of "Porky's Five & Ten", does anybody know the name of the tune that plays at the end when Porky squirts the fish in the face with the seltzer? It starts at the 6:45 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjIjLvH3p0

MF

mickeyfender
02-21-2010, 10:07 AM
I recently came across a tune previously unknown to me. It's called Ahi, viene la conga, by Cuban musician/composer Raúl Valdespí.

It's in Baseball Bugs during the conga line scene (1:29):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheY65Y8Kmc

In A Hare Grows in Manhattan during the billboard scene on the roof (5:52):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0M4BzzrNX4

And in Gorilla My Dreams when Bugs is dancing with Gruesome (4:58):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7f4vPcROE

MF

Speedy Boris
02-21-2010, 10:39 AM
I recently came across a tune previously unknown to me. It's called Ahi, viene la conga, by Cuban musician/composer Raúl Valdespí.

It's in Baseball Bugs during the conga line scene (1:29):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheY65Y8Kmc

In A Hare Grows in Manhattan during the billboard scene on the roof (5:52):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0M4BzzrNX4

And in Gorilla My Dreams when Bugs is dancing with Gruesome (4:58):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7f4vPcROE

MF Nice! It's a great song to put comedy to.

looneytooney
02-21-2010, 01:28 PM
I've got a little list as well.

1) This plays at 1:56-2:06 and 2:35-2:42 in the SNAFU cartoon, Three Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WtF1vZukA), and at 3:51-4:15 in Ain't That Ducky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DEgzIJf4Mw).

2) This ominous cue plays at 6:38-7:07 in Sniffles and the Bookworm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jQkCInmRpM), 1:35-1:43 in Cheese Chasers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbABV8kfnE), and at :31-:47 in Rabbit Hood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgjpmLJzSk4).

3) The photo-play type cue playing at 6:15-6:32 in You Oughta be in Pictures (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXjI2Pks24), plays at 4:55-5:10 and at 5:28-5:42 in The Daffy Duckaroo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6gUsZmFZaU), and at 4:57-6:01 in Porky and Teabiscuit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSfIB-NR-8U).

4) Another photo-play type of cue that plays at 6:26-6:59 in Milk and Money (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8omTqQ6aPQ), 6:03-6:48 in Falling Hare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqmJOTB5ImM), 4:35-5:12 in We the Animals Squeak! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTNyWPWCe0c), and :35-1:07 in Porky the Fireman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_LPeJ4yN0U).

Also, I found that You Hit my Heart with a Bang plays at 6:45-6:51 in The Impatient Patient (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_sUj1il6W0).
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Matt the Y
02-21-2010, 02:36 PM
I've got a little list as well.

1) This plays at 1:56-2:06 and 2:35-2:42 in the SNAFU cartoon, Three Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WtF1vZukA), and at 3:51-4:15 in Ain't That Ducky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DEgzIJf4Mw).




I can certainly answer #1, that is "Huckleberry Duck" by Raymond Scott! :D

looneytooney
02-21-2010, 02:44 PM
I can certainly answer #1, that is "Huckleberry Duck" by Raymond Scott! :D

Thanks largely, Matt.

AndrewGilmore
02-21-2010, 03:03 PM
Also, I found that You Hit my Heart with a Bang plays at 6:45-6:51 in The Impatient Patient (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_sUj1il6W0).


Also played in several others, notably as the Cagney bee's theme in "Porky's Pastry Pirates".

Matt the Y
02-21-2010, 04:02 PM
Also played in several others, notably as the Cagney bee's theme in "Porky's Pastry Pirates".

Is that also the "Elmer chasing Bugs through the snow" music that plays in "Fresh Hare" [1942]?

AndrewGilmore
02-21-2010, 04:13 PM
Is that also the "Elmer chasing Bugs through the snow" music that plays in "Fresh Hare" [1942]?

Yep.

Paul Penna
02-21-2010, 05:21 PM
2) This ominous cue plays at 6:38-7:07 in Sniffles and the Bookworm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jQkCInmRpM), 1:35-1:43 in Cheese Chasers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbABV8kfnE), and at :31-:47 in Rabbit Hood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgjpmLJzSk4).

The theme for the giants Fasolt and Fafner in Wagner's Ring of the Nibelung, heard right off the bat in this excerpt from Das Rheingold (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jSLtUvHxgQ).

looneytooney
02-22-2010, 10:48 PM
Is the song "He Was Her Man" playing in the background at 5:41-6:16 in Porky's Hero Agency (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezRl8J7sGL0)?

Also, what's the song playing at 3:40-4:16?

Matt the Y
02-22-2010, 11:39 PM
Also, what's the song playing at 3:40-4:16?

It *might* be "Love is in the Air Tonight".

AndrewGilmore
02-23-2010, 01:36 AM
It *might* be "Love is in the Air Tonight".

No, it isn't. "Love Is On the Air Tonight" plays from 3:20-3:39, immediately before the song in question, which is called "You've Got Something There." (Both songs, incidentally, are from the WB musical "Varsity Show".) The song from 5:41-6:16, to my knowledge, is not "Frankie and Johnnie", but I don't know what it is.

looneytooney
02-23-2010, 07:03 PM
No, it isn't. "Love Is On the Air Tonight" plays from 3:20-3:39, immediately before the song in question, which is called "You've Got Something There." (Both songs, incidentally, are from the WB musical "Varsity Show".) The song from 5:41-6:16, to my knowledge, is not "Frankie and Johnnie", but I don't know what it is.

That song at 5:41-6:16, I think is, indeed, 'He Was Her Man'. The reason I assumed that is because I have watched the titular Merrie Melodie here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcymFFRGUiM). The song is heard throughout, preferably the beginning.

By the way, thanks for that other song.

mickeyfender
02-23-2010, 07:19 PM
Speaking of Three Brothers, what's the name of the tune that plays when Tarfu places the cutout of the girl on the eggs? (2:42-3:00)

Also the tune that plays when the dogs are chasing Fubar? -- I'm assuming it's all the same tune (3:29-3:55)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WtF1vZukA

MF

Paul Penna
02-23-2010, 09:17 PM
Speaking of Three Brothers, what's the name of the tune that plays when Tarfu places the cutout of the girl on the eggs? (2:42-3:00)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WtF1vZukA

Appropriately enough, that's "Paper Doll" by Johnny S. Black. A big hit for The Mills Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2m8VZBfRYo).

mickeyfender
02-23-2010, 10:52 PM
Appropriately enough, that's "Paper Doll" by Johnny S. Black. A big hit for The Mills Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2m8VZBfRYo).

Thanks again, Paul

AndrewGilmore
02-24-2010, 01:28 PM
That song at 5:41-6:16, I think is, indeed, 'He Was Her Man'. The reason I assumed that is because I have watched the titular Merrie Melodie here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcymFFRGUiM). The song is heard throughout, preferably the beginning.

"OK, so I laid an egg!" :daffy:

David Gerstein
02-24-2010, 02:36 PM
Let's try this in reverse order.

(Warning, not for the easily offended...)

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ODlhfA14Bs) is a rude, but funny 1930s double-entendre song that slipped past the censors in England. I know I've heard its melody used in a cartoon, almost certainly Fleischer—but which one?

looneytooney
02-24-2010, 10:27 PM
To add on to my list, just what is that song that plays in Porky's Picnic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulxuYD88flQ) at around :29-1:02 and 1:58-2:14? It is whistled by Elmer in Elmer's Candid Camera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVxSWBAtmM) at 1:03 to 1:11.

mickeyfender
02-25-2010, 07:48 PM
To add on to my list, just what is that song that plays in Porky's Picnic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulxuYD88flQ) at around :29-1:02 and 1:58-2:14? It is whistled by Elmer in Elmer's Candid Camera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVxSWBAtmM) at 1:03 to 1:11.

I've wanted to know that one for a long, long time.

looneytooney
02-26-2010, 03:13 PM
In the meantime of figuring out most of these songs, check out these recordings:

Melancholy Mood (http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3e/BruB-25059-1.mp3)

I'm Feelin' High and Happy (http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3c/BLU022924.mp3)

Bob White (Watcha Gonna Swing Tonight?) (http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3a/VIC09688-2.mp3)

You Go to My Head (http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1938_045.mp3)

The Umbrella Man (http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1939_019.mp3)

Ho-de-Lay (Start the Day Right) (http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1939_197.mp3)

Paul Penna
02-26-2010, 04:02 PM
In the meantime of figuring out most of these songs, check out these recordings...

Ah... I knew "You Go to My Head" and "Umbrella Man," but I hadn't put names to the other tunes. Thanks!

Speedy Boris
02-27-2010, 11:05 AM
Ho-de-Lay (Start the Day Right) (http://www.jazz-on-line.com/a/mp3w/1939_197.mp3) This is one of my favorite songs used in Looney Tunes. I especially like how it's orchestrated in "There Auto Be a Law" and "Dog Gone South".

Speedy Boris
03-03-2010, 12:04 PM
I just had a thought... some of those Milt Franklyn title cards almost sound like he took the title of the cartoon and created a melody around it. If one really uses their imagination, they could hear the title name within the melodies for "Stork Naked", "Quackodile Tears", "Baby Buggy Bunny", "Hot Rod and Reel", "Mouse and Garden", "The Abominable Snow Rabbit", "Fish and Slips", "Now Hare This", the list goes on. It's almost like if those tunes HAD lyrics, they'd include the title names in them, based on how the melodies are arranged. Hope that makes sense.

Of course, not every title card from Franklyn seems to exhibit this trait (as some are based on existing melodies), but a lot of them do.

looneytooney
03-03-2010, 05:48 PM
What's the circus-sounding fanfare that plays at around 2:29-3:19 in Porky the Wrestler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpwNk6ucYYc)?

It also plays at 1:04-2:11 in She Was An Acrobat's Daughter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz742shaS24), around 2:39-2:55 in Porky's Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3thz78bIWI), and at the beginning (0:33-0:1:09) of You Were Never Duckier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AenzEs49CjY).

looneytooney
03-04-2010, 07:46 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4xgk_mystery-song-1_shortfilms

Daniel Goldmark solved this one for me.

It's "Coasting" by Ring and Hager, who wrote a series of photoplay cues for Sam Fox (who also published most of the music by JS Zamecnik).

Paul Penna
03-04-2010, 11:09 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc4xgk_mystery-song-1_shortfilms

Daniel Goldmark solved this one for me.

It's "Coasting" by Ring and Hager, who wrote a series of photoplay cues for Sam Fox (who also published most of the music by JS Zamecnik).

Excellent. I had a hunch that was photoplay music. Along the same lines as the gallop section of Zamecnik's "In the Stirrups."

dandu
03-05-2010, 09:18 PM
What is the music played during "Futuritzy" (1928), some sort of Gypsy dance or some Eastern European classical composition, perhaps?

Paul Penna
03-06-2010, 12:08 AM
What is the music played during "Futuritzy" (1928), some sort of Gypsy dance or some Eastern European classical composition, perhaps?

First half is mostly Brahms' Hungarian Dance No. 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbOpcRAUGHg), then halfway through it switches back and forth with the Hungarian Dance No. 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipngIAqCN8Y).

dandu
03-06-2010, 09:35 AM
I really like this! Thanks for sharing. I wonder if I could find some old recordings of it made during the 1920s that sound a bit like the music in the cartoon.

Paul Penna
03-06-2010, 01:21 PM
I really like this! Thanks for sharing. I wonder if I could find some old recordings of it made during the 1920s that sound a bit like the music in the cartoon.

Almost undoubtedly. The Brahms Hungarian Dances have been among the most-recorded pieces of classical music throughout out the history of recorded sound. In fact, one of the earliest sound recordings ever made, in 1889, was of Brahms himself, speaking and playing a bit of his first Hungarian Dance. I think you can find it on the web; the music portion is almost inaudible under an ocean of surface noise.

looneytooney
03-06-2010, 07:52 PM
I have another song that has been mentioned, but in case any of you might not know, this song playing with these following:

A Ham in a Role (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzL61_ZkLpk) (4:26-4:36)
Claws for Alarm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGUXKACxacs) (4:11-4:35)
Operation: Rabbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz4FuaU18vk) (1:16-1:31 and again at 4:10-4:39)
Bell Hoppy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxOLBVtnF8s) (5:11-5:20)

The song is called Goblins in the Steeple, from around, I believe, 1938.

Speedy Boris
03-06-2010, 09:06 PM
I have another song that has been mentioned, but in case any of you might not know, this song playing with these following:

A Ham in a Role (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzL61_ZkLpk) (4:26-4:36)
Claws for Alarm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGUXKACxacs) (4:11-4:35)
Operation: Rabbit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz4FuaU18vk) (1:16-1:31 and again at 4:10-4:39)
Bell Hoppy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxOLBVtnF8s) (5:11-5:20)

The song is called Goblins in the Steeple, from around, I believe, 1938. Nice! Original composer appears to be Leon Carr, correct?

mickeyfender
03-06-2010, 09:17 PM
Nice! Original composer appears to be Leon Carr, correct?

Correct. I just looked at the original sheet music on-line, and it confirmed that Carr wrote the music.

looneytooney
03-06-2010, 09:53 PM
Correct. I just looked at the original sheet music on-line, and it confirmed that Carr wrote the music.

Again, I'd love to hear a recording of that song. It's really catchy.

mickeyfender
03-10-2010, 10:13 PM
That's right, time for another mystery tune list. As always, any help is appreciated.

We, the Animals - Squeak! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTNyWPWCe0c) -- Fanfare during the opening credits (0:11); Tune played when KC Kitty is sleeping with little Patrick (2:39); Tune played when the mice walk slowly out of their hole (3:57); Music played after Patrick is swiped (4:35); Tune that plays after KCK finishes her story and Porky gives her a present (8:13) -- 5 tunes total

Porky in Wackyland (http://revver.com/video/1133518/porky-pig-in-wackyland-1938/) -- First swing number with all zanies (begins and ends with drum solo) (2:23); Waltz number when the Do-Do draws the door (5:39); Piece that plays when Porky, as a newsboy, exclaims that he's caught the do-do (6:49) -- 3 tunes total

Horton Hatches the Egg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G5g1H08EhY) -- Piece at the beginning (0:21); Piece when Maisie first speaks (used as her theme) (0:38) -- Also Horton's theme (first heard at 1:46); Music played during the storm (2:59) -- 4 tunes total (I think)

Bunny Hugged (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW5jxxxiw6s) -- Music played when Bugs is flexing in the ring after jabbing the Crusher with the needle (5:19)

Tom Turk and Daffy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYlCt92nTXE) -- Music that plays when Daffy first says the yams did it (3:34); Also the tune that plays when daffy says he didn't want to do it (3:53) -- 2 tunes total

One Meat Brawl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWFGSlBoLfs) -- Music that plays during the opening establishing shot (0:20)

Fresh Airedale (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bzah_fresh-airedale_family) -- Music during the foreword (0:20); Music when Shep is given his food at the beginning (played as his theme) (0:40) (same tune plays at 1:14 when the man brings out his own food); Tune played when the man gives Shep a slice of food (2:14) -- 3 tunes total

Fin n' Catty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdmqSTSxGpM) -- Tune when the fish crawls through the desert and sees the mirage (4:40)

Robin Hood Makes Good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W24ErpYl6FY) -- Music at the beginning (0:20); Music where the two squirrels are reading and come up with the idea (0:38); Song that Robin Hood sings (is it anything?) (2:30); Melody that plays during the shot of Maid Marian (4:22); Music that plays when the fox is frightened and tries to run out (6:36) -- 5 tunes total

Porky the Wrestler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpwNk6ucYYc) -- Tune played during the opening newspaper montage (0:25); Tune played during the hitchhiking montage (0:50); Tune that plays when Porky introduces himself to the Challenger (2:12); Fanfare music (2:30); Tune that plays when the guy first kicks the bell and when Porky first sneaks away (3:28) (also plays when they spin and when the ref gets his hand flattened at the end (5:38)) -- 4 tunes total

Frigid Hare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADQhJd1SHi8) -- The Miami Beach song (1:55 and again at 3:23)

Porky's Naughty Nephew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7UuHAGTkEA) -- Tune played when the nephew pulls the starfish off Porky's face and apologizes afterward (3:34)

That's it till the next batch. Thanks again for any help.

mickeyfender

Paul Penna
03-11-2010, 01:45 PM
We, the Animals - Squeak! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTNyWPWCe0c)

Tune played when KC Kitty is sleeping with little Patrick (2:39)
Civil War song Sweet and Low (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAy2Tjk6LyM) by Josephy Barnby (set to words by the poet Tennyson).

Tune played when the mice walk slowly out of their hole (3:57)
Minor-key variation on "Three Blind Mice."

mickeyfender
03-11-2010, 02:01 PM
Civil War song Sweet and Low (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAy2Tjk6LyM) by Josephy Barnby (set to words by the poet Tennyson).

Thanks again, Paul. You're quite the font of knowledge.

Minor-key variation on "Three Blind Mice."

Man, what a laugh. I didn't even recognize Three Blind Mice.

mf

Paul Penna
03-11-2010, 02:07 PM
Fresh Airedale (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bzah_fresh-airedale_family) Music when Shep is given his food at the beginning (played as his theme) (0:40) (same tune plays at 1:14 when the man brings out his own food); Tune played when the man gives Shep a slice of food (2:14)

These are all Stephen Foster's Old Dog Tray (http://glenavalon.com/olddogtray.mid).

Paul Penna
03-11-2010, 02:23 PM
Robin Hood Makes Good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W24ErpYl6FY) Melody that plays during the shot of Maid Marian (4:22)

Main theme of the first movement of Schubert's "Unfinished" Symphony (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AiJm47LWCg) (heard starting at 1:13 in the video).

Paul Penna
03-11-2010, 02:35 PM
Porky the Wrestler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpwNk6ucYYc) Tune that plays when Porky introduces himself to the Challenger (2:12)

This whole section in the car uses various sections of the Russian folk song "Dark Eyes" (Ochi Chornyje) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE8YAEUY4ic&feature=PlayList&p=8A242BCD0CFEE6F3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1), familiarly used in many other Russian-oriented Stalling scores, e.g, "Gremlins from the Kremlin" in you-know what.

Matt the Y
03-11-2010, 03:19 PM
These are all Stephen Foster's Old Dog Tray (http://glenavalon.com/olddogtray.mid).

Ah-ha! So that's the song that plays at the beginning of Tex Avery's MGM cartoons, "Doggone Tired" [1949], and "Rock-a-Bye Bear" (during the dog pound shot) [MGM/1952]!

cartoonfan4ever
03-11-2010, 03:44 PM
There is a bit from Die Fledermaus that I know I heard in a cartoon but I can't remember which cartoon/s it is from. The first part of the clip (the overture) I think is on Tom & Jerry. I'll have to look it up. But the part that I'm really wondering about is the music at 1:15 to 1:35.

Here is the clip, Carlos Kleiber -Johann Strauss II "Die Fledermaus" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqJK_s7I9EY)

mickeyfender
03-12-2010, 12:00 PM
Thanks a bunch, Paul!

mf

looneytooney
03-12-2010, 03:38 PM
Ah-ha! So that's the song that plays at the beginning of Tex Avery's MGM cartoons, "Doggone Tired" [1949], and "Rock-a-Bye Bear" (during the dog pound shot) [MGM/1952]!

I also found it in Rover's Rival (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uex7avd1ASQ) at around 1:35-1:43.

dandu
03-12-2010, 04:06 PM
There is a tune thats been driving me nuts for years. It was featured in the Stooge short "Disorder in the Court" where the stooges play a jazzy number and in "Reefer Madness" at a party. Obviously it was a big hit in 1936.

looneytooney
03-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Does anybody happen to know the title card music that plays in Cat-Tails for Two and Dog Pounded?

mickeyfender
03-15-2010, 07:02 PM
Just discovered one that I haven't seen discussed here before. It's called "The Black Horse Troop" by Sousa and it plays at 4:20-4:35 and again at 4:47-5:01 in Stage Door Cartoon (http://vodpod.com/watch/2109513-stage-door-cartoon).

You can hear the entire piece here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S435ay0MqTc

looneytooney
03-15-2010, 07:25 PM
Just discovered one that I haven't seen discussed here before. It's called "The Black Horse Troop" by Sousa and it plays at 4:20-4:35 and again at 4:47-5:01 in Stage Door Cartoon (http://vodpod.com/watch/2109513-stage-door-cartoon).

You can hear the entire piece here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S435ay0MqTc

It's also used in the title card credits in Rabbit Punch.

dandu
03-16-2010, 03:42 PM
There is a tune thats been driving me nuts for years. It was featured in the Stooge short "Disorder in the Court" where the stooges play a jazzy number and in "Reefer Madness" at a party. Obviously it was a big hit in 1936.

Surely this could be answered!

mickeyfender
03-18-2010, 04:00 PM
Here's one for those who may not know. The tune playing in Sioux Me (1939) when the animals are picketing the chief's teepee is a Chaplin-Cahn number called I Want My Share of Love.