OT: Vent On

[Leviathan]

Can we use this thread to collectively talk about a bunch of OT threads. Because I'm truly sick of animation at the moment. I'm really ****ing sick of it.

I've grown to resent everything about animation. I hate how everything modern is routinely dismissed out of hand. I really, really am ****ing sick to ****ing death of Family Guy being hailed as the worst thing ever made just because the characters don't look like Jim Tyer-animated palsy patients. I'm sick of Terrytoons and would like nothing more than to see the nitrate negs of every Bosko cartoon and Coal Black catch on fire and burn.

I hate Walter Lantz utterly putrid cartoons. I hate Hanna-Barbera. I hate Filmation. I hate talking about how much damage these animation whorehouses caused the industry. I hate Cartoon Network and I hate b****ing about how much they suck I hate Minimum Security and shed no tears over the fact that the damn comic's website has been hacked. I hate how there's not going to be anymore Looney Tunes or Popeye on DVD ever again, I hate that every Bosko cartoon ever made was released on the DVD's at the expense of Foghorn Leghorn, Road Runner and so on. I hate how there are so few independent animated projects that have graced the media and how the few that have (Delgo and Battle For Terra) have been utter ****. I hate motion capture and how it's seen as the utter bane of animation. I hate King of the Hill and think that pretty much everyone who likes it is an idiot. I'm sick of Nintendo, I'm sick of the Wii, I've hated pretty much everything Nintendo has had to offer for the Wii since this time last year. I hate 98% of all Japanese anime and think that it's all largely interchangeable and expendable. I'm grateful for Ted Rall being fired at United Media. I'm sick of newspaper comics sucking and think that a massive overhaul of the comics page of every newspaper would be phenomenal. I'm sick of Mallard Fillmore and Prickly City. I'm sick of Fox. I'm sick of the false hope of Futurama being renewed. And I'm sick of watching the same ****ing flash webtoons over and ****ing over again.

So let's turn to sunnier topics than animation. I've gotten a chance to read Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy and listen to the original radio shows. *I appreciate Douglas Adams' wit. Fortunately, the 2005 movie managed to capture just a semblance of it.

[Mr. Semaj]

As much as I'm not liking the current Family Guy, the show just draws too much hostility from both sides of the coin, to the point of sheer exasperation. Too many idiots who think the show is above any kind of criticism, and too many idiots who think the show is the son of Satan. Feels like the show itself is becoming a religion. :(

As for King of the Hill, I'm okay with it ending. The show has been on autopilot for the past several years.

[Mike]

Um.....wow. That's a lot of anger and pissed-off-edness there. Hope that helped.

I won't touch on everything you mentioned, but just let me address the Bosko comment: I may be wrong (it's late), but didn't one of the Golden Collections devote an entire disc to Road Runner shorts? And it's not every Bosko cartoon ever made. Not even close, I don't think. I know you were probably just exaggerating to prove a point, but still, I felt the need to point that out.

Mike

[Thad]

Thanks for emo-ing up the board.

[nickramer]

Leviathan, if your're tired of talking about animation, then why don't you just take a break from the fourm?

[Ray Pointer]

Leviathan, if your're tired of talking about animation, then why don't you just take a break from the fourm?

You took the words right out of my fingers. As a matter of fact Levy, why don't you attempt to make your own cartoon. You might enjoy the experience and gain some hard-learned lessons. Not only will it keep you occupied for a period of time, but it might be a humbling enough experience for you to appreciate the very medium you are starting to hate.

[Marty26]

I must be one of the few people who's indifferent towards Family Guy. I saw a couple episodes of it a while back, and while I didn't really hate it, I didn't really find anything too terribly unique or hillarious about it either. And, any way you slice it, Seth MacFarlaine is an ultra-leftist prick (so is Douglas Adams, for that matter, but at least The Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy was funny - I read it back in the late-Summer/early-Fall). I definitely prefer South Park and The Simpsons.

[jonmayo15]

I must be one of the few people who's indifferent towards Family Guy. I saw a couple episodes of it a while back, and while I didn't really hate it, I didn't really find anything too terribly unique or hillarious about it either. And, any way you slice it, Seth MacFarlaine is an ultra-leftist prick (so is Douglas Adams, for that matter, but at least The Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy was funny - I read it back in the late-Summer/early-Fall). I definitely prefer South Park and The Simpsons.
I have to pretty much completely agree with Marty.

[J. B. Warner]

Everyone needs a break from their favorite topic every now and then. When I'm bored with animation, I have plenty of alternatives - I watch my "Seinfeld" DVDs, I put on an episode of "Mystery Science Theater 3000", I read Watchmen again, I play one of my Pokémon games, I read a Calvin and Hobbes book, whatever. Or sometimes I just go out for a walk, just to get out into the world and think. Sounds like you just need a similar vacation from the forums, my friend. Find something else you enjoy, and just stick to that for a while until you're ready to return.

[Speedy Boris]

I can't help but think this thread was made to be a facetious parody against anyone who complains, but I could be wrong.

[Daffysleftfoot]

and would like nothing more than to see the nitrate negs of every Bosko cartoon and Coal Black catch on fire and burn.



I'd prefer a nice cleaned up copy of each released on an official dvd set. That would be much better for all I think. ;)

I also agree that if you're so sick of animation at the moment that you should take a break from this site. Noone's forcing you to come here. Not that I know of anyway. If there's a scary guy beside you right now with a sawed-off rifle pointed at your head saying stuff like "make a post about Daffy & Speedy cartoons or this little index finger of mine will get veeeeeeeery itchy", by all means don't put up with that. We'll contact the proper authorities and have him dealt with immediately. Then you'll be free to not make yourself sick of animation ever again.

Happy living. :cool:

[Leviathan]

I can't help but think this thread was made to be a facetious parody against anyone who complains, but I could be wrong.

Speedy nailed it. Specifically, about how it's become fashionable to complain about every little thing in animation.

[nickramer]

Yeah, it has been very critical recently. All I can say for those who are in a bad mood is step away from the computer for a couple hours and do something else like read a book, watch your DVDs, play some tennis, etc. Maybe even have a colander party.

[J. J. Hunsecker]

Speedy nailed it. Specifically, about how it's become fashionable to complain about every little thing in animation.
No offense, but a parody is supposed to be funny. While you're rant was exaggerated, it never struck me as being tongue-in-cheek. But then again, maybe I read The Onion too much, so my standards are too high. I do agree with you about The Hitch-Hiker's Guide, though. I enjoyed the books and the British television mini-series based on them.

[Ray Pointer]

Speedy nailed it. Specifically, about how it's become fashionable to complain about every little thing in animation.

Nailed it? He said he could be wrong, so he was not sure. As for it being "fashionable" to complain about every little thing in animation, what is "fashionable" about being misinformed and ill founded? While there are some legtimate things worth complaining about, the vast majority of such complaints are trivial. This is not being "fashionable," it's being ignorant.

[Jack G.]

Do people complain too much?

Sure.

I'm not sure why they waste the energy.
Perhaps people have frustrations in life and they take it out on something else?

I mainly focus on the positive stuff and minimize the things that bug me.

People don't have to like everything, but I don't know why they dwell on it so much.

It does seem to be easier to have an active thread about what you dislike than what you like.

Still I don't know why people get worked up when someone opines, "Well, McKimson had such and such a weakness."
Then someone gets all bothered and says, "Why are you bashing?"

Well, so much for that ramble.

[Thad]

Complaining is sexy.

[nickramer]

Okay, I admit I do get carried away defending the Disney shorts like I was a mother hen, but it's because they were the one that got me intrested in animation in the first place and they're sorta became a part of me. Because of that, it's hard for me to say no to most of them.

[Jack G.]

Complaining is sexy.If you ever get married, you'll be turned on every day once the honeymoon phase is over.

[millsie]

Speedy nailed it. Specifically, about how it's become fashionable to complain about every little thing in animation.
So basically you're complaining about people complaining, especially those people who complain even though they don't know what they are talking about?!

Or are you complaining about how people complain about other people's complaints?

I'm confused!

[The "Chase"]

...

Um, yeah.

So, um, does your tobacco taste differently lately?

[Ray Pointer]

Part of the trouble is recognizing legitimate issues to complain about and then offering insight to the reason for complaining. The majority of
the complaints in question are simply trivial surface impressions and personal dislikes that are not really founded in any real issue. There is a difference between complaining because one doesn't like something and complaining because of a blantantly obviousious matter. I have expressed
both a dislike and a complaint about the early Van Beuren cartoons, which I don't particularly appreciate, and have stated my reaons why. My dislike is not so much a bias against the studio's product since I rather like the later output. My dislike and complaint is based on the obvious issues of content, poor draftsmanship, and clumsy animation as examples. These are things that did not escape the public as well.

One can complain based on a dislike, which is a subjective matter rooted in individual bias. But this is complaining for the sake of complaining without really having a reason to complain. The other is based on an enlighted point of view that explains the reasons for complaining. A forum such as this invites such exchanges in order to enlighten and expand our appreciation of animated cartoons. But to arbitrarily pan certain cartoons for the sake of being negative seems to be more of a device to seeming attain a sense of power or draw attention to one's self without offering any real discussion. It's very easy to say "so and so sucks" and not explain why. But it takes so much more effort to think of the reasons why one appreciates or dislikes a work and take the effort to express that in writing. So making a blanket complaint based solely on a personal hatred
without explaining it is rather lazy and irresponsible. I too get weary of the unfounded complaining and find that such dispariging remarks are contrary to our overall appreciation of the art form.