View Full Version : Ideas for "Top 10 Worst Looney tunes" video
Brandon Panther
03-27-2009, 12:49 PM
Something I plan on doing is making a "Top 10 Worst Looney Tunes" video. If anyone has any suggestions for Looney tunes shorts they feel are the worst, feel free to post them here.
And before anybody asks, yes "Rabbit Seasoning" already has a spot in the video.
Also, non-classic LT shorts from the 70s onward are allowed to be suggested.
dandu
03-27-2009, 12:56 PM
I'll give you a couple of seldom seen WB cartoons that are really bad:
The Fire Alarm (1935) It is just annoying and unfunny.
Buddy Steps Out (1935) BOOORING!
Marty26
03-27-2009, 01:25 PM
I think it's only appropriate to cover all eras as much as possible. So, without further ado, here't goes:
1. Buddy Steps Out (1935)
2. Buddy's Adventures (1935)
3. My Little Duckaroo (1954)
4. Prehysterical Hare (1958)
5. Devil's Feud Cake (1963)
6. Mad As Mars Hare (1963)
7. The Iceman Ducketh (1964)
8. Rodent To Stardom (1967)
9. The crown jewel of WB's "bad cartoons":
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..............See Ya Later, Gladiator (1968)
Speedy Boris
03-27-2009, 01:41 PM
Cock-a-Doodle Duel. The Chocolate Chase. Spaced-Out Bunny.
Douglas E.
03-27-2009, 02:41 PM
Rodent to Stardom is like, the WORST Alex Lovy Daffy & Speedy short, and THAT's saying something!
Also, Prehysterical Hare has EVERYTHING a bad cartoon has: Poor Voice Acting, Bad Music, Mediocre Animation, Stupid Writing, EVERYTHING!
-Doug
Boy Wonder
03-27-2009, 03:19 PM
Sour Puss?
Sour Puss?
Noooo! I actually like this cartoon, although I do admit that some how it never really seems to get going. I think that the cat is hilarious and it's a shame the cartoon he's in isn't better and more exciting. The scene where he tries to guess what's for dinner makes me laugh like an idiot, as does the counting sheep scene.
My own controversial pick for a Top Ten Worst Looney Tune would be "Old Glory". I really hate that cartoon!
Marty26
03-27-2009, 04:08 PM
Noooo! I actually like this cartoon, although I do admit that some how it never really seems to get going. I think that the cat is hilarious and it's a shame the cartoon he's in isn't better and more exciting. The scene where he tries to guess what's for dinner makes me laugh like an idiot, as does the counting sheep scene.
My own controversial pick for a Top Ten Worst Looney Tune would be "Old Glory". I really hate that cartoon!
I don't see how that'd be controversial since a lot of people dislike that cartoon.
The fish in The Sour Puss was really annoying IMO. I actually think it would've been better of either Porky or the Pussy Cat got the best of him at the end. But my pick for all-time WORST pre-1942 Porky Pig cartoon would have to be Pied Piper Porky. If only because of how annoyingly sadistic that Rochester-ish mouse was.
Well it's good to hear other people dislike Old Glory too! I also agree that the fish in The Sour Puss is annoying and, in fact, I don't like the ending of this cartoon. It's as if the cartoon just ends because it isn't really going anywhere anyway. I can totally see why people don't like this one, but I find the cat so funny that I can't help but enjoy watching it.
cartoonfan4ever
03-27-2009, 04:36 PM
Fresh Airedale. I can't bring myself to watch that cartoon again.
Matthew Hunter
03-27-2009, 04:37 PM
"Rover's Rival"
"Unnatural History"
Marty26
03-27-2009, 05:06 PM
Well it's good to hear other people dislike Old Glory too! I also agree that the fish in The Sour Puss is annoying and, in fact, I don't like the ending of this cartoon. It's as if the cartoon just ends because it isn't really going anywhere anyway. I can totally see why people don't like this one, but I find the cat so funny that I can't help but enjoy watching it.
I don't really dislike Old Glory. In fact, I don't see how it was any more preachy and humorless than, say, Wholly Smoke (which many consider Frank Tashlin's overlooked masterpiece). It also had some excellent animation and artwork. And had the distinction of being one of the few pre-1943 Porky Pig cartoons to NOT be released in the Looney Tunes series.
Marty26
03-27-2009, 05:06 PM
"Rover's Rival"
"Unnatural History"
What was wrong with those cartoons?
Geezil
03-27-2009, 05:13 PM
To satisfy all die-hard Robert McKimson fans, you must include these two:
"Bunny and Claude (We Rob Carrot Patches)" (1968)
"The Great Carrot-Train Robbery" (1969)
:shame:
Speedy Boris
03-27-2009, 05:27 PM
To satisfy all die-hard Robert McKimson fans, you must include these two:
"Bunny and Claude (We Rob Carrot Patches)" (1968)
"The Great Carrot-Train Robbery" (1969)
:shame: The catchy theme songs automatically rule those out of the "Top 10 worst LTs ever" category. :tweety:
Brandon Panther
03-27-2009, 05:41 PM
What was wrong with those cartoons?
Rover's Rival has always struck me (and others I'm sure) as a sub-par Clampett cartoon. And the dog in that cartoon is annoying.
I haven't seen Unatural History in years and don't remember much about it. Wasn't it just a random travelogue short or something? The only two gags I recall are a chemeleon lizard, and an awkward Bugs Bunny cameo.
Geezil
03-27-2009, 05:49 PM
The catchy theme songs automatically rule those [the two Bunny and Claude shorts] out of the "Top 10 worst LTs ever" category. :tweety:
But since Bonnie and Clyde was just upgraded to an "Ultimate Collector's Edition" in 2008, which (for a while longer) rules out placing those two toons as pop culture bonus features where they rightly belong, where else could they reasonably be put? You make the call.
Steve Siegert
03-27-2009, 07:50 PM
"Good Night Elmer" (1940)
"Elmer's Pet Rabbit" (1941)
"I've Got to Sing a Torch Song" (1933)
Glowworm
03-27-2009, 08:37 PM
I haven't seen Unatural History in years and don't remember much about it. Wasn't it just a random travelogue short or something? The only two gags I recall are a chemeleon lizard, and an awkward Bugs Bunny cameo.
It was a random spot gag short narrarated by a scientist telling us about the nature of animals. It wasn't bad-gags included that chameleon, a man insisting that his dog can talk, a beaver actually damning a river and porcupines kissing-very carefully:D
Anyhow-heres what I can't stand.
"Conrad the Sailor"-Daffy's fine-I can't stand Conrad-he's so boring and everythings so slowly paced. I'm never watching that on my Golden Collection DVD.
"Fresh Airdale"-I absolutely hate this one. I always wanted the dog to get what's coming to him-but it never happens-and I feel so sorry for that poor cat.:mad:
"The Iceman Ducketh" Worst Bugs and Daffy ever. Nuff said.
"Museum Scream"-Awful,unwatchable Tweety and Syvester short.
"Catch as Cats Can"-Sylvester's voice! Not to mention the gags look more painful than funny.
"Plenty of Money and You"-An ostrich is somehow hatched by a chicken and runs amuck on the farm eating inedible stuff and a weasel captures it and sings the title song.
larriva9/11
03-27-2009, 09:30 PM
And before anybody asks, yes "Rabbit Seasoning" already has a spot in the video.
Which puts a damper on any hopes of the video being "authoritative", as opposed to one person's subjective opinion...
Marty26
03-28-2009, 01:14 AM
"Fresh Airdale"-I absolutely hate this one. I always wanted the dog to get what's coming to him-but it never happens-and I feel so sorry for that poor cat.:mad:
Actually, I thought it was refreshing to see the cartoon end on such a dark note. You expect the dog to eventually get his come-uppance and the cartoon to end in the worst possible way for him. But then the cartoon pulls a complete 180 and instead has the cartoon end in the worst possible way for the cat. I certainly wouldn't want EVERY cartoon to be like that. But I think one or two such cartoons is welcome and appropriate.
"Museum Scream"-Awful,unwatchable Tweety and Syvester short.
Ugh! I remember that. Next to Cock-a Doodle Duel, that was probably the worst of the Larry Doyle shorts. And believe me, that's saying something!
Boy Wonder
03-28-2009, 08:21 AM
Anyone also wanna nominate two of the Censored 11, Jungle Jitters and Angel Puss?
Marty26
03-28-2009, 08:42 AM
I didn't think Jungle Jitters was that bad. Angel Puss, on the other hand...
oceansoul
03-28-2009, 10:36 AM
I think the "Fresh Airedale" bashers aren't living on this world, are they?
A. Flea
03-28-2009, 10:45 AM
Nope. They all died in the Hare-m Scare-um caper of 83.
Glowworm
03-28-2009, 10:49 AM
I think the "Fresh Airedale" bashers aren't living on this world, are they?
To be honest-I first saw the cartoon when I was in second grade going on third. Children have a strong sense of justice-and I've never grown out of that phase. Actually I didn't watch the cartoon all the way through then-but I knew that I didn't like it and begged my father to change the channel. Later perhaps 8th or 9th grade I finally saw it all the way through. Truthfully I'm not always fond of darker things.
Speedy Boris
03-28-2009, 11:03 AM
"Fresh Airedale" tells it like it is. The bad guys sometimes win. You gotta admire that in a cartoon. Also, as a cat lover, I have to give props to a cartoon that for once, a cat isn't the villain.
It's not Jones's funniest, that's for sure, but it's nowhere near the worst. Not even close.
Marty26
03-28-2009, 02:18 PM
"Fresh Airedale" tells it like it is. The bad guys sometimes win. You gotta admire that in a cartoon. Also, as a cat lover, I have to give props to a cartoon that for once, a cat isn't the villain.
It's not Jones's funniest, that's for sure, but it's nowhere near the worst. Not even close.
I remember, about two years ago, complaining about how cats in particular seem to always be the villains in classic cartoons. Which led me to wonder whether people like Jones and Freleng were closet cat-haters.
Brandon Panther
03-28-2009, 02:25 PM
I remember, about two years ago, complaining about how cats in particular seem to always be the villains in classic cartoons. Which led me to wonder whether people like Jones and Freleng were closet cat-haters.
Walt Disney hated cats, I know that much.
Jones seemed proud to have "owned" a cat named Johnson during his childhood years.
cartoonfan4ever
03-28-2009, 02:42 PM
I think the "Fresh Airedale" bashers aren't living on this world, are they?
I'm living on this world just fine thank you. I just don't like that cartoon. Not because it's dark, but because of the unjustice.
Douglas E.
03-28-2009, 03:29 PM
I'm living on this world just fine thank you. I just don't like that cartoon. Not because it's dark, but because of the unjustice.
Hear, Hear! I hate Fresh Airdale, but it's FAR from the worst Looney Tune ever. And I like Rover's Rival, Catch as Cats Can, The Sour Puss, Bunny & Claude, and Elmer's Pet Rabbit. But "Angel Puss" IS one of the worst Looney Tunes ever.
-Doug
dandu
03-28-2009, 04:47 PM
Old Glory has some fantastic artwork, but I agree it is really boring as well as I am not really a fan of American patriotism, especially in the last 8 years. Boy were those sad days for America...
Pigs is Pigs is on the same veins, it isn't funny, but I do like how it predicted the upcoming factory farm lifestyle for animals. Really, it is just a sick Disney knock-off.
I Wanna Play House is also too Disney-esque for my tastes...
Not wanting to get into any arguments here, but I do feel the need to defend "Fresh Airdale", and yes it's a favourite of mine. Just because a cartoon isn't out and out funny, or even amusing doesn't mean it's automatically bad, because it does not do what a cartoon "should" do. For me, as has been stated before, it unfortunately represents the real world. Although I wouldn't want every cartoon to be like it, I think it's great that the formula can be discarded now and then, and something different done. On the other hand I can see why some dislike it, (I can imagine peole seeing it for the first time, and at the end thinking WTF!) but each to their own.
larriva9/11
03-28-2009, 09:41 PM
Besides, consider that "Chow Hound", too, is a Looney Tune...
wiley207
03-28-2009, 10:41 PM
Rodent to Stardom is like, the WORST Alex Lovy Daffy & Speedy short, and THAT's saying something!
Also, Prehysterical Hare has EVERYTHING a bad cartoon has: Poor Voice Acting, Bad Music, Mediocre Animation, Stupid Writing, EVERYTHING!
-Doug
No, "See Ya Later Gladiator" is the worst Alex Lovy Daffy & Speedy short, no contest! Sure, "Rodent to Stardom" isn't that good, but to me at least it's watchable compared to "See Ya Later Gladiator."
For "Pre-Hysterical Hare," yes, people diss it cause of the music. But I think that stock music worked MUCH better on "The Ren & Stimpy Show." Plus, I actually didn't mind that music when it was used on "Hook, Line and Stinker."
Marty26
03-28-2009, 10:45 PM
Not wanting to get into any arguments here, but I do feel the need to defend "Fresh Airdale", and yes it's a favourite of mine. Just because a cartoon isn't out and out funny, or even amusing doesn't mean it's automatically bad, because it does not do what a cartoon "should" do. For me, as has been stated before, it unfortunately represents the real world. Although I wouldn't want every cartoon to be like it, I think it's great that the formula can be discarded now and then, and something different done. On the other hand I can see why some dislike it, (I can imagine peole seeing it for the first time, and at the end thinking WTF!) but each to their own.
Each Dawn I Crow is another rather dark cartoon. And you don't see people complaining about it.
Personally, I think "Gladiator" is an underappreciated gem - after all, it was the last classic-era WB cartoon ever to feature at least one of the more popular characters: Daffy Duck and Speedy Gonzales.
"Gladiator" is actually a nice close to an era, because Daffy and Speedy are the kind of characters that will be remembered for years to come (unlike characters created during the W7 era, Cool Cat being an exception).
IMO, there's no such thing as a "bad" LT short. Many people are saying, that, overall, these cartoons are better than what is being produced now on Cartoon Network.
Geezil
03-28-2009, 11:29 PM
Walt Disney hated cats, I know that much.
And yet Figaro somehow slipped under his radar, living on to make his way into several shorts. :)
Glowworm
03-29-2009, 12:29 AM
Each Dawn I Crow is another rather dark cartoon. And you don't see people complaining about it.
That's because it's funny. I frankly don't find a poor cat being mistreated funny. A rooster on the otherhand attempting to murder the farmer because he mistakenly thinks he's going to be killed though? Hillarious.
Like I said before I'm pretty big on justice and felt bad that the cat was never rewarded.
oceansoul
03-29-2009, 05:02 PM
To be honest-I first saw the cartoon when I was in second grade going on third. Children have a strong sense of justice-and I've never grown out of that phase. Actually I didn't watch the cartoon all the way through then-but I knew that I didn't like it and begged my father to change the channel. Later perhaps 8th or 9th grade I finally saw it all the way through. Truthfully I'm not always fond of darker things.
You have to understand what that cartoon is really about, what is the real meaning of it, and you will learn it was one of Jones' most brilliant cartoons ever made. And I'm not exaggerating. I have a strong sense of justice too... that's why I love this cartoon!
nickramer
03-29-2009, 11:00 PM
In my opinion, a Worst WB Looney Tunes List with "Rabbit Seasoning" is like having "Casablanca" in a Worst Golden Age Film list.
Of course, that's my opinion.
Anyway I say "Good Noose" (1963). Nice title but the worst Daffy cartoon in the original studio era.
oceansoul
03-30-2009, 11:04 AM
Rabbit Seasoning and Casablanca? :eek:
RS is a very good cartoon really, but not THAT good. ;)
Although I see your point, and it's stupid to rank it along with the likes of Buddy and post-64 LT.
Marty26
03-30-2009, 11:19 AM
In my opinion, a Worst WB Looney Tunes List with "Rabbit Seasoning" is like having "Casablanca" in a Worst Golden Age Film list.
Of course, that's my opinion.
Anyway I say "Good Noose" (1963). Nice title but the worst Daffy cartoon in the original studio era.
I didn't think Good Noose was that bad. It had a catchy theme song, and Daffy's interaction with Mr. Christian was fairly amusing. The ending certainly could've been better and Daffy was pretty out of character. But I'd say My Little Duckaroo and especially The Iceman Ducketh were worse.
nickramer
03-30-2009, 11:41 AM
Rabbit Seasoning and Casablanca? :eek:
RS is a very good cartoon really, but not THAT good. ;)
Well, I was going to say "Citizen Kane", but then I thought that would be too much of a stretch.
I don't really dislike Old Glory. In fact, I don't see how it was any more preachy and humorless than, say, Wholly Smoke (which many consider Frank Tashlin's overlooked masterpiece). It also had some excellent animation and artwork. And had the distinction of being one of the few pre-1943 Porky Pig cartoons to NOT be released in the Looney Tunes series.
Wholly Smoke isn't one my absolute favourites, but I find it way more entertaining than Old Glory. I can appreciate the effort that went into Old Glory, but, for me, it's one of those cartoons that tries so hard to be beautiful, but falls short and ends up looking really ugly (A similar thing occurs in some of the early Disney shorts which try to beautiful e.g Water Babies). I actually find pretty much all the animation in Old Glory to be boring and lacking in 'life' with all the characters coming across as grotesque wax work figures. Even the obese Porky design that everyone hates is better looking to me than the chunky, glowing orb-cheeked child Porky featured in Old Glory. Also it's the only Warner Bros. cartoon I can think of that makes me think "how long is this thing?" while I'm watching it. At least Wholly Smoke has a lot of fun animation and music and is much less self-important in its presentation of a moral.
Actually that's another thing that's more satisying about Wholly Smoke. In this one Porky actually learns his lesson through his own experience and he doesn't just learn not to smoke, but also to stand up for himself and what he thinks is right. This is done with a lot of fun animation, gags, music and visual wit. Although the moral remains intact, nothing is sacred or too serious (check out the ringing of the church bell in the opening scene). In Old Glory, on the other hand, Porky learns his lesson just by falling asleep and having a dream where the creepiest Uncle Sam ever gives him a very dry, boring and long history lesson where everything is very literal and treated with the greatest of reverence.
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