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PF9
01-23-2009, 11:04 PM
I'm just curious, WB owns most of their library, but I still wonder. Who owns the rights to the a.a.p. trademarks (including company name, initials, logos, and so on)?

Can anyone tell me please?

JERRY BECK
01-24-2009, 01:44 AM
I'm just curious, WB owns most of their library, but I still wonder. Who owns the rights to the a.a.p. trademarks (including company name, initials, logos, and so on)?

Can anyone tell me please?

A.A.P. (Associated Artists Productions) was bought by United Artists in the late 1950s and was subsequently known as U.A.A. (United Artists Associated), and later became United Artists Television. All of the properties that were associated with A.A.P. became part of the merged MGM/UA. When Ted Turner bought the company he retained the MGM films and the AAP properties (which included the Warner Bros. pre-48 features, shorts and cartoons and Popeye cartoons), and sold off the United Artists films along with the MGM brand name - which created the entity known today as MGM (confusing, isn't it?).

Turner merged his company with Warner Bros. and today, WB owns the properties of A.A.P. - and I would assume they own the name and trademarks of A.A.P.

PF9
01-24-2009, 02:44 AM
Moby Dick (1956), was also sold to a.a.p., but remains with MGM/UA to this day.

Studio Toledo
01-24-2009, 07:01 AM
A.A.P. (Associated Artists Productions) was bought by United Artists in the late 1950s and was subsequently known as U.A.A. (United Artists Associated), and later became United Artists Television. All of the properties that were associated with A.A.P. became part of the merged MGM/UA. When Ted Turner bought the company he retained the MGM films and the AAP properties (which included the Warner Bros. pre-48 features, shorts and cartoons and Popeye cartoons), and sold off the United Artists films along with the MGM brand name - which created the entity known today as MGM (confusing, isn't it?).
I still like to believe MGM doesn't exist at all! :p

Ray Pointer
01-24-2009, 08:53 AM
I still like to believe MGM doesn't exist at all! :p

Given their rich legacy, why do you want to believe this?

raginggoodfella
01-24-2009, 09:38 AM
I still like to believe MGM doesn't exist at all! :p
I thought Sony bought the rights to MGM's film/tv library.

Ray Pointer
01-24-2009, 10:26 AM
I thought Sony bought the rights to MGM's film/tv library.

No. All Sony got was the facilities. Turner bought the film library, which was absorbed into Warner Brothers when the Time-Warner/Turner merger was finalized.

Studio Toledo
01-24-2009, 03:04 PM
No. All Sony got was the facilities. Turner bought the film library, which was absorbed into Warner Brothers when the Time-Warner/Turner merger was finalized.
This is pretty much where the confusion happens. In all fairness, MGM still has the UA movies plus those films produced after '85 or so, but it still seems sad to me they don't have their classic library of films anymore.

TServo2049
01-24-2009, 05:21 PM
Weird that MGM kept Moby Dick, I wonder why...

Also, another AAP thing...has anyone ever found any Canadian pre-48 WB prints under the United Telefilms Limited (UTL) name? I doubt the logo ever actually appeared onscreen that way (though the "atom" logo was apparent adapted for UTL), but does anybody know anything about UTL?

jonmayo15
01-24-2009, 10:07 PM
Weird that MGM kept Moby Dick, I wonder why...It's weird, because I believe it's a Warner Bros. film. I wish Warners had the right, because then I'd have a nice edition with the proper aspect ratio.