Edit in The Iceman Ducketh?

[Tom41]

I just saw this cartoon on Boomerang UK. Although the scenes mentioned on the Censored Cartoons page were intact, I believe there might have been another edit. After Daffy suddenly gets snowbound and exclaims that winter sets in quickly, it fades to black. It then resumes with Bugs creating a snow-rabbit and saying "This ought to fool that duck". It's as if Bugs knew that Daffy was hunting him before this scene came on - was something else deleted?

[UncleJunior]

From what I recall, I don't think there were any edits. It was just a simple fade to the next scene.

[Javeman]

That's how the cartoon goes unedited, but I agree it looks like something's missing, I mean, how come Bugs knows so quickly Daffy is after him? Normally, something has to happen before Bugs realizes he's being "hunted".

[Daffysleftfoot]

Maybe, like Baby Bottleneck, Heckling Hare, or Have You Got Any Castles, this cartoon was editted back in the day. Maybe Daffy says to Bugs "I'll shoot you like I did to JFK." You can see how that wouldn't have gone over well in '64.:p

[Thad]

The illogicalness of the staging is a prime example of how the Warners studio was going to hell in a handbasket. Not to mention that if any Bugs Bunny cartoon deserved to have the post-1964 opening with the evil carnival music that signifies you're about to see a crappy cartoon, it's this one...

-Thad

[Matthew Hunter]

Yeah, not one of the studio's better efforts. It's funny how the first time Daffy ever met Bugs he admired him, the next he wanted Elmer Fudd to shoot him, and it gradually got worse...this is one of two that I can think of where Daffy holds Bugs at gunpoint! Check out "People are Bunny", for example. "The Iceman Ducketh" isn't that bad in terms of gags (I like "I saw this in a toothpaste ad once!") but the concept is wrong from the start. Daffy is so mean he's unlikeable...and he's not "funny mean", just "mean mean." Why would Daffy want to hunt Bugs himself just to get his fur? Why would Daffy hunt anything, considering he spent most of his career trying to keep others from doing the same to him? The cartoon would have been quite good if they'd used Elmer Fudd or even Yosemite Sam. Daffy's miscast here! :daffy:

[UncleJunior]

"Daffy's miscast here!"

I agree. I wonder if this particular cartoon led to all those Daffy-Speedy cartoons.

[Greg Method]

I agree. I wonder if this particular cartoon led to all those Daffy-Speedy cartoons.Well, it would certainly be a natural progression.

But actually, what I was wondering about his being miscast is if there may have been some kind of Daffy quota during each year of production, like a "There needs to be x number of shorts produced with Daffy every year" goal. The reason I'm wondering is because what if "The Iceman Ducketh" was written for another villain, but they had to fit another Daffy cartoon into the schedule, so they just stuck him into that one.

Granted it's a stretch of a theory, but I can't believe that cartoon was originally written specifically to be a Bugs and Daffy story.

[Daffysleftfoot]

Well, it was directed by Phil Munroe and written by John Dunn. Consult either them or descendants of them to learn the true answer.