LTGC discontinued?

[Scuz Fink]

How come Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 6 is the last?:( Didn't it sell as well as Warner Bros had hoped? There must be a fair few more of the Looney Tunes to be released-anybody know of any future DVDs or Blu Ray releases?

[Bradskey]

How come Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 6 is the last?:( Didn't it sell as well as Warner Bros had hoped? There must be a fair few more of the Looney Tunes to be released-anybody know of any future DVDs or Blu Ray releases?

I'm pretty sure the decision to discontinue the Golden Collection as a vehicle was made before the set was out and there was any sales data. They still have "big plans" to continue releasing more Looney Tunes going forward, but no announcements or details yet. ;)

[Leviathan]

Apparently the 5th set didn't do the sales WB wanted.

I hope Warner will change the release schedule to be more like Popeye's; 30 shorts semiannually.

[The Silver Fox]

if WB would release the shorts 4 times a year and at a price that would attract the collector, it would help in sales, such as a better value package, I think the costs and the avaiablity is what may be
putting GC in (i hope not) perment Hiatus.

I had Only one place to get LT GC vol 5, Circuit City, evey other retailer
in my area didnt' cary the set the day or for the holiday season except
Circuit City, and this year CC not even carrying the GC sets at all.

Walmart in my area only getting in there stores, GC vol 5, for under 47 bucks.

Cost and then how WB been releasing in the sets the cartoons I think may have at times backfired as i saw on a friends vol 1 GC set, there were more of the cartoons that CBS over showed on the BB / RR hour, but they made up for it with the bonus extra features i though were great.

[A. Flea]

not enough people care to buy a 50 dollar DVD set of cartoons they won't watch.

[bj_wanlund]

Of COURSE Golden Collection 5 didn't do as well as they'd hoped! NONE of those cartoons were "mainstream" cartoons, i.e. the stuff people remember watching on Saturday mornings. I think LTGCs 1 & 2 were absolutely spot-on perfect, while 3 declined, and 5 just plain scraped the bottom of the barrel.

Then, with 6, they pick things up again with some more "mainstream" cartoons (I would argue "Much Ado About Nutting" would be put here), but IT'S THE LAST ONE because of the stupid jerks at WB!!!! :mad:

They did a fine job (IMHO, YMMV) on the Droopy set, but they've practically screwed the pooch (pun intended) on everything else.

BJ

P.S. YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary

[ohmahaaha]

Why is everyone coming across as though Warner Brothers is not going to put out any more Looney Tunes DVDs, and calling them "stupid jerks" or whatever??

My understanding ... directly from Jerry Beck's website ... is that this volume 6 is the final Golden Collection, BUT Warner is going to continue to restore 60 cartoons per year, and that they still plan to release new Looney Tunes DVDs.

I really get irritated when I see negative posts that are contrary to stated facts ... to me it seems like people are just trying to stir up muck from the bottom and ultimately do more harm than good.

[Bradskey]

Why is everyone coming across as though Warner Brothers is not going to put out any more Looney Tunes DVDs, and calling them "stupid jerks" or whatever??

My understanding ... directly from Jerry Beck's website ... is that this volume 6 is the final Golden Collection, BUT Warner is going to continue to restore 60 cartoons per year, and that they still plan to release new Looney Tunes DVDs.

I really get irritated when I see negative posts that are contrary to stated facts ... to me it seems like people are just trying to stir up muck from the bottom and ultimately do more harm than good.

I don't get some people either, but that's pretty much what I tried to say, if I wasn't clear: Golden Collection as a package - a means of distributing the cartoons, is discontinued. They are still going to put 60 cartoons out, they are simply going to try a different approach. Big deal, nothing to get upset about.

I personally like all of the Golden Collections, they are some of the finest animation sets ever produced for home video and each has plenty of good cartoons from all eras that I enjoy.

I like Droopy cartoons too, but my mileage must vary, because it is one of the most egregiously poor efforts to date to release classic animation, specifically regarding the DVNR issue. I almost never notice DVNR, and I don't sit around looking for it or complaining about it, but even I could not help noticing just how bad it really was on that set, and on some of my favorite cartoons too! No doubt there should have been a disc replacement on this one for those who wanted it. Short of that (cuz it ain't happening) hopefully those cartoons will be included on an MGM collection done right some day.

[clarkh]

WHV is simply responding to the consumer-economic times by cutting back on big box sets. LT/MM can and will come out in other release formats.

My personal suggestion: "Looney Tunes Double Feature" sets. Disc 1 would be all stars, "Bugs/Daffy/Tweety in 15 of their greatest adventures, all on DVD for the first time." Disc 2 of the same set would be more thematic, such as "Farmyard Frolics" or "Toons vs. Technology."

This way we can have the same mix of popular favorites and collectors' cult classics, in smaller packages more often.

[LTS]

Why is everyone coming across as though Warner Brothers is not going to put out any more Looney Tunes DVDs, and calling them "stupid jerks" or whatever??

My understanding ... directly from Jerry Beck's website ... is that this volume 6 is the final Golden Collection, BUT Warner is going to continue to restore 60 cartoons per year, and that they still plan to release new Looney Tunes DVDs.

I really get irritated when I see negative posts that are contrary to stated facts ... to me it seems like people are just trying to stir up muck from the bottom and ultimately do more harm than good.

I think some people are just afraid that it wont happen. Until we see confirmation from tvshowsondvd of the first such release of the new series then you'll see the same people coming around.

This might not be a big deal but i do hope that the next series is in package the same as LTGC 4-6, i hope they dont slap them together in dvd movie cases. I probably wouldnt buy it like that which is part of the problem it got discontinued if alot of people didnt buy these sets because they didnt have "all" their favourites and for a stupid reason like the dvd packaging. I just think that boxed sets should be in boxes and leave movies to movie cases.

[Scuz Fink]

My understanding ... directly from Jerry Beck's website ... is that this volume 6 is the final Golden Collection, BUT Warner is going to continue to restore 60 cartoons per year, and that they still plan to release new Looney Tunes DVDs.



It's good that Warners plan to continue releasing cartoons on a steady basis.

[FleischerFan]

Of COURSE Golden Collection 5 didn't do as well as they'd hoped! NONE of those cartoons were "mainstream" cartoons, i.e. the stuff people remember watching on Saturday mornings. I think LTGCs 1 & 2 were absolutely spot-on perfect, while 3 declined, and 5 just plain scraped the bottom of the barrel.

Then, with 6, they pick things up again with some more "mainstream" cartoons (I would argue "Much Ado About Nutting" would be put here), but IT'S THE LAST ONE because of the stupid jerks at WB!!!! :mad:

Yes, my mileage varied.

Volume 5 happens to be my favorite precisely because it featured a large number of cartoons that I hadn't seen in years.

My opinion is that the sales of LTGC declined over time because most people (i.e. non-hard core collectors) really only need one or two of these sets to satisfy them. They are not "completists." Consequently, owning Volume 1 and maybe one or two more was all they needed to feel they had enough Looney Tunes in their collections.

As to name calling the people at WBHV...(sighs)...

Some people are perpetual cranks. They need something to be unhappy about. Instead of enjoying the 360 cartoons already released in this format (to say nothing of the Droopy/T&J/Popeye/Oscar sets), they want to focus on what they don't have.

That's their perogative.

[WoodpeckerWoody]

Yes, my mileage varied.

Volume 5 happens to be my favorite precisely because it featured a large number of cartoons that I hadn't seen in years.

My opinion is that the sales of LTGC declined over time because most people (i.e. non-hard core collectors) really only need one or two of these sets to satisfy them. They are not "completists." Consequently, owning Volume 1 and maybe one or two more was all they needed to feel they had enough Looney Tunes in their collections.

As to name calling the people at WBHV...(sighs)...

Some people are perpetual cranks. They need something to be unhappy about. Instead of enjoying the 360 cartoons already released in this format (to say nothing of the Droopy/T&J/Popeye/Oscar sets), they want to focus on what they don't have.

That's their perogative.

Collecting cartoon shorts is my hobby so I like any thing that I already have but I would like to but I im not in favoring of double dipping shorts unless it would be complete restoration of cartoons that are blue Ribbons

[ohmahaaha]

Collecting cartoon shorts is my hobby so I like any thing that I already have but I would like to but I im not in favoring of double dipping shorts unless it would be complete restoration of cartoons that are blue Ribbons
It was also stated, in the same info read on Jerry Beck's website, that there would be NO double dipping with future Looney Tunes releases.

[WoodpeckerWoody]

It was also stated, in the same info read on Jerry Beck's website, that there would be NO double dipping with future Looney Tunes releases.

That is good news, I don't want to buy things that I already have unless Jerry would be so kind to offer to us restoration to Blue Ribbon cartoons thats are already included on LTGC vol 1-6. With original cards but saidly we alredy known that some of them probably do not exist any more. :(

I have no compliment with Jerry so far he has done wonder full job. I would recomed that Warners would put MGM cartoons (include Droopy and Tom and Jerry) into his hands then something good will come out of it. Did he super vise the restoration of Popeye?

[janiepooh34]

I don't give a rats patootie what Jerry Beck says...he has said many things and WB has changed their minds and it is out of his control what WB does with the cartoons.

I am nervous because NOTHING has been said by WB about how the cartoons are going to be coming to us now that the Golden Collection series is over. While it is great that many cartoons are being released with movies, I am certainly NOT going to by movies just to get the cartoons they have.

I am not a "perpetual crank" either, I very much enjoy what I have via the Golden Collections. I just would like to know how the cartoons are going to continue straight from WB and not us hypothesizing how we think it is going to happen.

[ThePeterNetwork]

I totally agree with Janie here. If there is one thing big businesses know how to do to appease the masses is to lie through their teeth to shut the fanboy collectors up. Is this a fair practice? No. But they are a business, and like most businesses their aim is to make money first and please the fans last. Often times, dead last. :mad::p

[Matthew Hunter]

My bet is on smaller, character-centric sets. There's still plenty of marketable material left with Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Tweety, Sylvester, and Road Runner, and my guess is we'll start seeing some single-disc or 2-disc compilations of those.

[WoodpeckerWoody]

I totally agree with Janie here. If there is one thing big businesses know how to do to appease the masses is to lie through their teeth to shut the fanboy collectors up. Is this a fair practice? No. But they are a business, and like most businesses their aim is to make money first and please the fans last. Often times, dead last. :mad::p

The reason why the world is in crisis. I have to agree with Karl Marx how the economic and the capitlism works, The reason why America got DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act).

[Jack G.]

I am nervous because NOTHING has been said by WB about how the cartoons are going to be coming to us now that the Golden Collection series is over.Corporations are not in the habit of telling their plans because plans change.

Think about how many times people get worked up when WHV didn't announce what was on the next
GC at a time people thought it should happen- there was always people worried.

I'm not on the corporation's side but everybody's jumping much too soon.

[janiepooh34]

Corporations are not in the habit of telling their plans because plans change.

Think about how many times people get worked up when WHV didn't announce what was on the next
GC at a time people thought it should happen- there was always people worried.

I'm not on the corporation's side but everybody's jumping much too soon.

Right, corporate plans change, I stated that already. However, the problem I see is that it has been at least 6 months since we knew the GC series was ending, how long do we have to wait until they announce something? A year, 18 months?

Like I said before...I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT!!! I really don't think that is jumping too soon, it is just having a little sense of reality.

[wiley207]

Apparently the 5th set didn't do the sales WB wanted.


Blame the slump on our economy for the most part. :(

And another partial reason might be because the DVD sales for "Ratatouille" helped totally kill the sales for LTGC Volume 5! Call me weird, but that's one reason why I do not like "Ratatouille."

*an audience goes "BOOOOOOOO!" and a bunch of tomatoes are thrown in my face!*

And I know yet another reason why the recent ones have bombed as well: according to a couple of Amazon.com reviews, it was because the last few sets have been not including for the most part any other well-known LT characters outside of Bugs, Daffy and Porky! We saw very little Foghorn Leghorn, very little Yosemite Sam, very little Marvin the Martian, and very little Pepe Le Pew! Heck, only two of Marvin's cartoons (not including that "Spaced Out Bunny" short from 1980) were released on DVD, only on volume one! WB blew perfectly good 'toon choices for their Bugs Bunny discs! I mean, come on. He's not as obscure as some other characters, like Cecil Turtle!

But anyways, I do hope WB will indeed continue releasing the LTs to DVD in some form. If they can't find a way to get them back on TV, this is our only hope.

[janiepooh34]

Blame the slump on our economy for the most part. :(

And another partial reason might be because the DVD sales for "Ratatouille" helped totally kill the sales for LTGC Volume 5! Call me weird, but that's one reason why I do not like "Ratatouille."

I don't see the relation between Ratatouille and LTGC's...please explain.:confused:

[wiley207]

I don't see the relation between Ratatouille and LTGC's...please explain.:confused:

Well, when LTGC 5 was released, "Ratatouille"'s DVD was released. The sales for "Ratatouille" were at Number One for WEEKS, while LTGC 5 plunged all the way down to the bottom, practically around the 500s mark! And "Ratatouille" was inferior compared to the Looney Tunes, too. There've been TOO many CGI talking animal movies all of a sudden, and is becoming as bad an annoying trend as live-action remakes of old cartoon series!

One friend of mine said that he heard another person say "Looney Tunes" would be better if it were animated like "Ratatouille" was :mad:

[ohmahaaha]

One friend of mine said that he heard another person say "Looney Tunes" would be better if it were animated like "Ratatouille" was :mad:
I trust that you promptly pointed out his grievous error!?

[wiley207]

I trust that you promptly pointed out his grievous error!?

But of course! It wasn't exactly my friend, it was someone else that my friend heard say.

[ohmahaaha]

But of course! It wasn't exactly my friend, it was someone else that my friend heard say.
Well, we're not far at all from having an entire generation of children grow up without EVER having seen any of these old cartoons broadcast on TV, as sad as that is ... so we'll have to expect people with that kind of opinion until they've had a chance to discover these.

The best thing that we can do to ensure future Looney Tunes releases IMO is to buy the sets that are available (if you haven't already) and to tell Warner how great they are and how much we'd love to see more. Politely.

[Fibber Fox]

Well, we're not far at all from having an entire generation of children grow up without EVER having seen any of these old cartoons broadcast on TV, as sad as that is ... so we'll have to expect people with that kind of opinion until they've had a chance to discover these.

Such is the nature of pop culture. The new replaces the old. Nothing we can do about it. It's always happened.

Thus we have people who consider Seinfeld an old sitcom and haven't a clue who Ed Sullivan is, let alone Jack Norworth and Nora Bayes.

F. Fox

[janiepooh34]

Well, when LTGC 5 was released, "Ratatouille"'s DVD was released. The sales for "Ratatouille" were at Number One for WEEKS, while LTGC 5 plunged all the way down to the bottom, practically around the 500s mark! And "Ratatouille" was inferior compared to the Looney Tunes, too. There've been TOO many CGI talking animal movies all of a sudden, and is becoming as bad an annoying trend as live-action remakes of old cartoon series!

One friend of mine said that he heard another person say "Looney Tunes" would be better if it were animated like "Ratatouille" was :mad:

Ahhh....ok...thanks for explaining that. I never would have thought that they were released on DVD at the same time. (I just don't keep track of those things!)

Ratatouille WAS a crappy movie. After I watched it (kids, ya know) I called it "Rat-a-poo-ie" and banned it from further home screening. Kids don't seem to mind..

[WoodpeckerWoody]

Ahhh....ok...thanks for explaining that. I never would have thought that they were released on DVD at the same time. (I just don't keep track of those things!)

Ratatouille WAS a crappy movie. After I watched it (kids, ya know) I called it "Rat-a-poo-ie" and banned it from further home screening. Kids don't seem to mind..

CGI is crap expect Toystory.

[nickramer]

Brother.:rolleyes: I happen to like all the Pixar films and am getting sick and tired of this "I hate computer/ Pixar" bashing.

I also think it's ridiculous that someone blames the sales of Vol. 5 just because of "Ratatouille" being released the same week. I think the reason Vol.5 didn't sell well because the casual DVD buyers thought they already released the best cartoons on the first two volumes (Jones' best known films) and didn't think there were anymore worthwhile shorts to own.

[wiley207]

Brother.:rolleyes: I happen to like all the Pixar films and am getting sick and tired of this "I hate computer/ Pixar" bashing.


You mean there are members that dislike Pixar too? I'm actually kinda surprised. I do like SOME Pixar films, though, like the "Toy Story" films and "The Incredibles" and possibly "Wall-E"

[Pieless]

Brother.:rolleyes: I happen to like all the Pixar films and am getting sick and tired of this "I hate computer/ Pixar" bashing.



Agreed, I really don't get the sweeping judgment of computer animation as a whole. Sure, if all you like in animation is Golden Age style cartoons with exaggerated, cartoony animation, then I can see why you don't like CGI. That doesn't mean CGI doesn't have it's own, separate strengths though.

Anyhow, I think getting worried about no new Looney Tunes releases this early is jumping the gun. It's only been a little over a month since LTGC V6 came out after all. It's sort of like if you said a few weeks after LTGC V5 came out that you didn't think there would be anymore releases, even though we all know WB never announced anything about the upcoming LTGC until several months later. Now, if we get to say, August, without hearing anything about any new sets, yeah even I'd be worried by then. Hopefully we'll hear something by spring.

[J. J. Hunsecker]

Brother.:rolleyes: I happen to like all the Pixar films and am getting sick and tired of this "I hate computer/ Pixar" bashing.

I also think it's ridiculous that someone blames the sales of Vol. 5 just because of "Ratatouille" being released the same week. I think the reason Vol.5 didn't sell well because the casual DVD buyers thought they already released the best cartoons on the first two volumes (Jones' best known films) and didn't think there were anymore worthwhile shorts to own.
Yeah, I like some CGI animated films too.

Maybe the Looney Tunes DVDs didn't sell as well as the studio hoped because ofthe large price retail tag on the cover? $60 is a lot for the casual DVD buyer. Even the marked down price of $45 is still too much in these desperate times.

[captchucky]

I suspect the next release, not called "The Golden Age of Looney Tunes" will contain many of the most popular cartoons not yet released. I would expect "A Wild Hare" as well as lots of Roadrunners, a few Marvins and maybe a Taz release.