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Glowworm
08-17-2008, 04:58 PM
Ever since I learned that there was an original ending for "Red Hot Riding Hood" which was either scrapped,banned or censored-I've been curious if anyone has actually ever seen it-or if the original footage still exists. I have seen one screenshot on the internet from this scene. For those of you who don't know-the original ending supposedly had Wolfie marrying Grandma in a shotgun wedding-complete with the priest resembling Tex Avery(Like I said before this is the picture I have seen on the internet) Afterwards, Grandma, Wolfie and their mixed bred kids(!) pay a visit to Red at the nightclub. Obviously this was scrapped due to the beastiality sequence. So does this still exist or was it lost forever?

PudgieDParrot
08-17-2008, 06:48 PM
I doubt the original footage still exist, since the nitrate original has probably turned to goo, but maybe somewhere out there, MAYBE there might be storyboard sketches for the ENTIRE sequence (that might make an interesting bonus feature if WB made a non-Droopy Avery collection!).

Vdubdavid
08-17-2008, 07:21 PM
In one animation book (Mike Barrier's Hollywood Cartoons I believe) there is a still from the scene where Granny marries the Wolf, with a Avery self-caricature as the Justice of the Peace. In the same book there's a publicity photo of the real Avery discussing something with two co-workers. The storyboard for RHRH is behind them and you can see what looks like a background painting from the aforementioned scene, with a howitzer aimed at where the Wolf would have been standing (no doubt to get him to stay!)

Glowworm
08-17-2008, 07:57 PM
In one animation book (Mike Barrier's Hollywood Cartoons I believe) there is a still from the scene where Granny marries the Wolf, with a Avery self-caricature as the Justice of the Peace. In the same book there's a publicity photo of the real Avery discussing something with two co-workers. The storyboard for RHRH is behind them and you can see what looks like a background painting from the aforementioned scene, with a howitzer aimed at where the Wolf would have been standing (no doubt to get him to stay!)
That's the exact still that I've seen on the internet:) If the ending still exists it would be incredible to see.

J. A. Boschen
08-17-2008, 08:30 PM
I was always under the impression that this scene was not filmed, but was not quite sure. Hopefuly one of these days an original (non-reissue) print will submerge of the film to fully answer this question.

Bugsmer
08-17-2008, 10:15 PM
I was under the impression that, not only was it filmed, but American soldiers got to watch this particular version overseas. The Americans at home saw the common version.

PudgieDParrot
08-18-2008, 06:58 AM
OK...I don't have Mike Barrier's book yet, but I did read a snippet of it in a bookstore once, and I was originally under the impression that the scene wasn't included AT ALL---EVEN when it was originally released. But you have proven me wrong.

These changes, as with WB's infamous Blue Ribbons, were probably cut into the original neg. A nitrate dye-transfer print may exist, but the question is where, and in what condition. I was told Tex himself had saved original-release prints of his cartoons, but what happened to them after his death I don't know.

Fibber Fox
08-21-2008, 01:45 AM
I was under the impression that, not only was it filmed, but American soldiers got to watch this particular version overseas. The Americans at home saw the common version.

No, when Tex was talking to Joe Adamson about this, he was referring to the take where the wolf stiffens when he first sees Red.

John Canemaker's book says the original ending only existed in a work draft.

F. Fox.

kaneda
08-21-2008, 11:23 AM
Until a few years ago I lived in the UK and I've been watching cartoons since the late fifties. I seem to remember seeing that version of Red Hot Riding Hood some decades ago but cannot remember what happened at the end. Maybe it exists in a UK vault somewhere?

Fibber Fox
08-22-2008, 12:27 AM
Until a few years ago I lived in the UK and I've been watching cartoons since the late fifties. I seem to remember seeing that version of Red Hot Riding Hood some decades ago but cannot remember what happened at the end. Maybe it exists in a UK vault somewhere?

Since you cannot remember what happened at the end, and this topic deals with nothing BUT the ending, how can you say you remember seeing "that" version?

F. Fox

zavkram
08-22-2008, 09:30 AM
If there ever were an actual print of the cartoon which included this ending; I've heard that South or Central America would be the place to look for it, not Europe or the UK.

Boy... even that ending would be relatively tame compared to what happens in cartoons nowadays. Look at Family Guy, for example... Brian the dog is constantly having sex with female humans and no one bats an eye.

I've never actually seen this, but I've read about a cartoon produced by John K. which features a character called "Cigarettes the Cat"... in one episode, the cat apparently gets so worked up over a female human character that he actually turns purple with lust! It makes anything in Avery's Red Riding Hood cartoons seem positively ascetic by comparison...

ThePeterNetwork
08-23-2008, 10:49 AM
I've never actually seen this, but I've read about a cartoon produced by John K. which features a character called "Cigarettes the Cat"... in one episode, the cat apparently gets so worked up over a female human character that he actually turns purple with lust! It makes anything in Avery's Red Riding Hood cartoons seem positively ascetic by comparison...

Would that be the cat character that appears in the music video "Close But No Cigar" by Weird Al Yankovic? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CltDCQmUl_I)

Greg Method
08-23-2008, 09:30 PM
Would that be the cat character that appears in the music video "Close But No Cigar" by Weird Al Yankovic? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CltDCQmUl_I)
Yep, one and the same.