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rodinei1964
06-03-2008, 10:35 PM
São Paulo - SP, Brazil, June 3, 2008 (The UEFA Euro 2008 will begin next Saturday, in Austria and Switzerland).
Hello, friends from GAC, Yesterdaylanders, Retrolanders, Memory Laners and HB-fans from the whole world!
Did anyone watch A Day in the Life of Ranger Smith (directed by John Kricfalusi [from the Ren & Stimpy fame] in 99), when this short was shown on Cartoon Network (http://cartoonnetwork.com) in the whole world?
Very well. There's a passage from this short, where Ranger Smith changes of layout on a pass of magic, which includes the layouts from the Yogi Bear classical episodes (from the 50s and 60s) done by Tony Rivera (on the episodes from the early 60s), Walter Clinton (as seen on the episode Space Bear), Dick Bickenbach (where Mr. Ranger looks like a military, on the episode Bear on a Picnic) and Ed Benedict.
Alias, the legendary Ed Benedict was involved on the layouts from this short. And there are a scene where Mr. Ranger appears being drawn by Ed. It's on that scene where Mr. Ranger attempts to confiscate a bunch of nuts of a dippy squirrel who was taking them to his tree. Here's the reference from the Ed Benedict's Ranger Smith:
http://64.237.40.189/media/images/feature/l/lifeofrangersmith_64x96.jpg "Hey, squirrel! What's the hurry?"
Seeing Ranger Smith on this pose (drawn by Ed Benedict), doesn't it make remember of a classical Yogi Bear episode titled Daffy Daddy (whose layout was made by the same Ed Benedict), which makes part of the first season (1958-59) from The Huckleberry Hound Show (Hanna-Barbera/Columbia Pictures, 1958-62)?
There's a scene from this episode which appears on the Johnny K.'s blog (http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com), on the topic Color Theory - good color without a lot of money - Art Lozzi HB. And this topic is located on the following link: http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/10/color-theory-good-color-without-lot-of.html.
Well, this was what I've had to report here.
Tchau!
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Rodinei Campos da Silveira (from São Paulo, Brazil)
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Gotta admit that morphing gag always makes me chuckle.
Never realized Ranger Smith went through so many designs! lol
Marty26
06-08-2008, 08:58 AM
Gotta admit that morphing gag always makes me chuckle.
Never realized Ranger Smith went through so many designs! lol
Almost every (classic) Yogi Bear cartoon had a different Ranger Smith design. I believe this was because there were was a dynamic cast of animators with each cartoon, drawing Ranger Smith in their own style. There were some more general stylistic changes, though. Specifically how his head gradually became rounder as the series progressed.
TheBlueHombre
06-08-2008, 11:12 AM
Almost every (classic) Yogi Bear cartoon had a different Ranger Smith design. I believe this was because there were was a dynamic cast of animators with each cartoon, drawing Ranger Smith in their own style. There were some more general stylistic changes, though. Specifically how his head gradually became rounder as the series progressed.
After Yogi got his own show in 1961, Ranger Smith's character design stayed pretty much the same . . . until 1964 when the movie Hey There, It's Yogi Bear came out and then he changed again. The change that always baffled me was when Yogi's Gang came along in 1973 and Ranger Smith's hair went from black to BLONDE! Same design as the theatrical movie but now a different hair color. I guess the 60's did a number on everyone.
rodinei1964
02-06-2009, 07:56 PM
São Paulo - SP, Brazil, February 6, 2009.
Hello, friends from GAC and HB-fans from the whole world!
Do you remember of the topic which I wrote about the Ranger Smith's variety of layouts shown on the short A Day in the Life of Ranger Smith (directed by John Kricfalusi in 1999)?
Very well. Now, let's see the many layouts of Ranger Smith which were seen on the classical Yogi Bear episodes produced by Hanna-Barbera (http://hanna-barbera.com) between 1958 and 1962, and which were present on the two first seasons from The Huckleberry Hound Show (Hanna-Barbera/Columbia Pictures, 1958-62) and on the classical Yogi Bear Show (Hanna-Barbera/Columbia Pictures, 1960-62). These layouts were made by various Hanna-Barbera layout artists.
A small detail: the layouts done by the legendary Ed Benedict are in a separated topic which I wrote in last December: Yogi Bear episodes with the Ed Benedict's layout (http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showthread.php?t=12258).
And now, here are the many layouts of Ranger Smith done by other Hanna-Barbera artists:
http://img.youtube.com/vi/rWNQIijYHjM/2.jpg The Biggest Show-Off on Earth. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Ed DeMattia (both worked on DePatie-Freleng).
Beware, Mr. Ranger! This isn't Yogi! This is the rebel bear who escaped from the circus and ended taking the Yogi's place.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/26LVAX2CN3s/3.jpg Space Bear. Layout: Walter Clinton (one of the first variations). Animated by Don Patterson.
"Attention, Jellystone Park! There's a strange bear rounding on the Jellystone Park! Beware! He's armed!"
http://img.youtube.com/vi/5PZoPzpksEc/2.jpg "I saw they doing this... watching on the TV!"
The Buzzin' Bear. Layout: Dick Bickenbach. Animated by Carlo Vinci (and part by Michael Lah).
This episode contains two rangers named Bill and Joe (to have a right to William Hanna & Joseph Barbera), and it was from the first season (1958-59) from The Huckleberry Hound Show, quite before Ranger Smith becoming a regular character.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/tC-EYmQXeL4/1.jpg Loco Locomotive. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Kenneth Muse.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/EkGbQig49tw/2.jpg Lullabye-Bye Bear. Layout: Dick Bickenbach. Animated by George Nicholas.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/i2EzOtE4u1k/2.jpg Booby-Trapped Bear. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Lewis Marshall.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/WgXNBHNUocg/2.jpg Threesome Gleesome. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Carlo Vinci.
"Charlie! Carol! What a happiness to visit you!"
Do you remember when Mr. Ranger traveled to Miami to visit his friends Charlie and Carol, and he ended meeting Yogi and Boo Boo there?
http://img.youtube.com/vi/2ZQy4U-Xlqc/2.jpg Ring-a-Ding Picnic Basket. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Lewis Marshall.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/ePxQHTK3I_Y/3.jpg Slap Happy Birthday. Layout: Dick Bickenbach. Animated by George Nicholas.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/GxEj4DpnaIc/2.jpg Missile-Bound Bear. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Bill Keil.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/Qj-4h5dCdw0/2.jpg Bear Foot Soldiers. Layout: Iwao Takamoto (quite before of the Mr. Ranger's definitive version, introduced in the animated movie from 1964, Hey There, It's Yogi Bear). Animated by Robert Bentley.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/rqP7CVS3X4s/2.jpg Disguise and Gals. Layout: Walter Clinton (second variation). Animated by Don Patterson.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/oC5FyWwc710/3.jpg Genial Genie. Layout: Paul Sommer. Animated by Dick Lundy.
"Boo Boo, you surprise me! Tsk-tsk! What a lie! Maybe you should have spent too much time with Yogi!"
http://img.youtube.com/vi/VW-48RObx6M/1.jpg A Bear Living. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Arthur Davis.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/NGVnC15Z4K4/3.jpg Touch and Go-Go-Go. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Bob Carr (who worked on Filmation).
Inspired on the King Midas' legend (from the Greek mythology).
http://img.youtube.com/vi/Um4JGPlL19M/1.jpg Yogi's Pest Guest. Layout: Dan Noonan. Animated by Don Williams (who worked on Warner, Universal/Walter Lantz and DePatie-Freleng).
Do you remember of this episode? That one of the Japanese bear?
http://img.youtube.com/vi/yGNIn0kQvo8/1.jpg Cub Scout Boo Boo. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Bob Carr.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/TxOF9Z2M9V4/2.jpg Wound-up Bear. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Don Patterson.
"The wound-up bear strikes again!"
http://img.youtube.com/vi/Jpjbk489yb0/3.jpg Ice Box Raider. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Ed Love.
In the John Kricfalusi's blog (http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com), there's a cool topic showing the facial expressions of Mr. Ranger and Yogi on this episode animated by Ed Love. This topic is located on this following link: http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/11/head-bobs-using-3-key-poses.html.
Bear on a Picnic. Layout: Dick Bickenbach. Animated by Carlo Vinci.
"You're a shame for your brothers, Yogi Bear!"
It's on this episode where Yogi attempts to rescue a little baby who goes after the forest animals, thinking that they're cats (which include a skunk, a porcupine and a mountain lion).
And it's also on this episode, in which we see a Ranger Smith prototype, who looks like a military (drawn by Dick Bickenbach). The scene where he appears on this episode, is located on the following link: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mJ4lc_Q9Q6k/RzuAI71uFHI/AAAAAAAAJD8/zKdJH5NMNCE/s1600-h/Bald+RangerYogi.jpg.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/FeJueI96fiU/3.jpg Hide and Go Peek. Layout: Dick Bickenbach. Animated by Kenneth Muse.
"What do you looking for? A blue, yellow or pink elephant?"
http://img.youtube.com/vi/vAIaT7detaE/3.jpg Missile Bound Yogi. Layout: Dan Noonan. Animated by C. L. Hartman (does he have any relationship with the Fairly Oddparents creator, Butch Hartman?).
http://img.youtube.com/vi/OxNWxJ76PCQ/2.jpg Spy Guy. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Ed Love.
Do you remember when Mr. Ranger installed a surveillance system (via TV), to accompain each step of Yogi, at the moment in which the "smarter than the average bear" and his fellow Boo Boo enjoyed to steal the "pic-a-nic" baskets?
http://img.youtube.com/vi/3ILPWq_EDTc/3.jpg Bewitched Bear. Layout: Tony Rivera. Animated by Don Patterson.
Do you remember when Yogi steals a magical broom from a witch and enjoys to fly over the Jellystone Park, grabbing the "pic-a-nic" baskets from the Park's imprudent visitors?
http://st1.mais.uol.com.br/3/31/5D/161641-medium.jpg Home Sweet Jellystone. Layout: Don Sheppard. Animated by Brad Case.
Do you remember when Ranger Smith goes out from Jellystone Park to taking care of the his uncle's mansion, and Yogi and Boo Boo enjoy to steal the "pic-a-nic" baskets?
http://rocinha.videolog.tv/videos/de/96/392202_0004.jpg Yogi Bear's Big Break. Layout: Dick Bickenbach. Animated by Kenneth Muse (and part by Michael Lah).
Yogi's first episode. And here's one of the first versions of the Ranger Smith prototype.
http://www.cartoonscrapbook.com/03pics/yogibear38.jpg Papa Yogi. Layout: Walter Clinton. Animated by George Nicholas.
"I WANNA THAT BEAR!"
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Keith Paynter
02-06-2009, 08:56 PM
I always thought Ranger Smith would be a great cornerstone name for a band. To complete the perception, I would have a pool of musicians and change the personnel for every gig, just as Ranger Smith was so off-model as to look different in so many of the shorts.
rodinei1964
02-16-2009, 08:08 PM
I'd like that you'd see the updates which I did on this post above, refering to the Ranger Smith's various layouts done by various Hanna-Barbera artists (layout artists and animators), on the episodes from the Yogi Bear classical period (1958-62).
Bugsy-Kun
02-16-2009, 09:13 PM
I always love the variation of Ranger Smith's design during the original Yogi Bear shorts. My theory is it was made by great and talented animators, (I tough Ed Benedict was resposible to this man's fame) so they loved to changed every shorts for being better. What i hate about him is the post-1964's design when he's being a bit tall and less caring to watch. And they keep it during the 60's through the 80's before bring back the original design this last years.
Ranger Smith in the early years was my favourite human character design, but it's just a shame they don't hired many talented animators for keep him in the 1960's through today.
Marty26
02-16-2009, 10:42 PM
Could somebody post this special on Youtube? I saw it once (about two and a half years ago), and I'd like to see it again.
Marty26
02-16-2009, 10:43 PM
I always love the variation of Ranger Smith's design during the original Yogi Bear shorts. My theory is it was made by great and talented animators, (I tough Ed Benedict was resposible to this man's fame) so they loved to changed every shorts for being better. What i hate about him is the post-1964's design when he's being a bit tall and less caring to watch. And they keep it during the 60's through the 80's before bring back the original design this last years.
Ranger Smith in the early years was my favourite human character design, but it's just a shame they don't hired many talented animators for keep him in the 1960's through today.
There were a couple cartoons, though, where he looked rather odd. Such as Nowhere Bear and a cartoon (whose name escapes me) where two crooks come into Jellystone dressed as little old ladies with picnic baskets. This cartoon was on The Yogi Bear Show.
Ray Pointer
02-17-2009, 01:21 AM
Just to get terms correct, guys, you are discussing character model designs, not LAYOUTS. Layouts are actual pencil drawings. These are fininshed animation frames and illustrations.
rodinei1964
02-17-2009, 08:25 AM
There were a couple cartoons, though, where he looked rather odd. Such as Nowhere Bear and a cartoon (whose name escapes me) where two crooks come into Jellystone dressed as little old ladies with picnic baskets. This cartoon was on The Yogi Bear Show.
The episode which you're refering to, is Disguise and Gals. And the artwork was made by Walter Clinton. I've included a Ranger Smith's reference from this episode, which was drawn by him.
Fibber Fox
02-17-2009, 08:32 AM
There were a couple cartoons, though, where he looked rather odd. Such as Nowhere Bear and a cartoon (whose name escapes me) where two crooks come into Jellystone dressed as little old ladies with picnic baskets. This cartoon was on The Yogi Bear Show.
It seems at the outset, some of the cartoons had a generic ranger (or two) before the Smith character was brought in, and it took some time to get his design down. Even Yogi and Boo-Boo weren't consistently drawn in the earliest cartoons.
F. Fox.
P.S. I've liked the cartoon where Yogi's in the chopper. There are two rangers .. named Joe and Bill.
Ray Pointer
02-17-2009, 08:43 AM
[quote=Fibber Fox;134096]It seems at the outset, some of the cartoons had a generic ranger (or two) before the Smith character was brought in, and it took some time to get his design down. Even Yogi and Boo-Boo weren't consistently drawn in the earliest cartoons.
F. Fox.]
The model inconsistencies are in the first season cartoons from 1958. It seems that by 1959 there was a consistency in the drawing of the characters, which were most consistent by 1961. Much of this is due to the application of character layouts being given to the animators, where previously the animators drew freely without much guidance or model sheets to follow. From what I recall, the worst ones were animated by Lewis Marshall, whom my late associate Ken Southworth cited as being a mediocre animator.
Marty26
02-17-2009, 09:52 AM
It seems at the outset, some of the cartoons had a generic ranger (or two) before the Smith character was brought in, and it took some time to get his design down. Even Yogi and Boo-Boo weren't consistently drawn in the earliest cartoons.
F. Fox.
P.S. I've liked the cartoon where Yogi's in the chopper. There are two rangers .. named Joe and Bill.
Yeah, technically that character from The Buzzin' Bear who's image is in one of the earlier posts here is NOT Ranger Smith. To clear up confusion.
Until about 1959, Yogi Bear cartoons typically had a series of generic rangers. First they had no hair at all, then they had black hair but a different voice. Be My Guest, Pest was I believe the first cartoon to use the name "Ranger Smith" (although he had a much different voice than what we're all accustomed to) while the actual Ranger Smith character we all know and love was first used in, I believe, Lullabye Bye Bear. After that, he became a Yogi Bear regular, although his actual voice wasn't firmly established until Nowhere Bear.
It's also true that Yogi went through several different designs during 1958. In the beginning, for example, he sometimes had orange framing around his eyes (to match the color of his mouth). And in one (the aforementioned Be My Guest Pest) he had a peach coloring in his ears during most of the cartoon.
Interestingly, Ranger Smith actually sometimes goes through several different character designs in the same cartoon! For example, in the beginning of Slap Happy Birthday (I believe the first Yogi Bear Show cartoon), he looks just like he did in Papa Yogi. But then he randomly transforms into the more general physical appearance he'd often have from then on out.
Marty26
02-17-2009, 09:53 AM
[quote=Fibber Fox;134096]It seems at the outset, some of the cartoons had a generic ranger (or two) before the Smith character was brought in, and it took some time to get his design down. Even Yogi and Boo-Boo weren't consistently drawn in the earliest cartoons.
F. Fox.]
The model inconsistencies are in the first season cartoons from 1958. It seems that by 1959 there was a consistency in the drawing of the characters, which were most consistent by 1961. Much of this is due to the application of character layouts being given to the animators, where previously the animators drew freely without much guidance or model sheets to follow. From what I recall, the worst ones were animated by Lewis Marshall, whom my late associate Ken Southworth cited as being a mediocre animator.
Could you give an example of a cartoon where Lewis animated the ranger?
rodinei1964
02-19-2009, 08:34 PM
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rodinei1964
03-02-2009, 08:15 PM
São Paulo - SP, Brazil, March 2, 2009.
Hello, fellas from GAC and HB-fans from the Americas and the whole world!
I've found on the John Kricfalusi's blog (http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com), a cool topic which I hope that all of you gonna love it: it's the topic that shows that sequence from the short A Day in the Life of Ranger Smith (which Johnny K. directed in 1999), where Ranger Smith passes through a variety of designs (which include the designs seen on the classical Yogi Bear shorts, produced by Hanna-Barbera between 1958 and 1962). Among these designs shown on this topic, there are two designs which were seen on the Yogi Bear classical period: the Tony Rivera's design (from the early 60s) and the Walter Clinton's design (seen on the episode Space Bear).
Here's the link to this topic: http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2009/02/funny-walks-in-limited-animation.html.
Enjoy to visit this link. I wish you good luck on this visit!
Well, that's it!
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Cheers from this faithful friend who always writes 4 U,
Rodinei Campos da Silveira (from São Paulo, Brazil)
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StillHowardFein
03-04-2009, 02:53 PM
[quote=Ray Pointer;134098]
Could you give an example of a cartoon where Lewis animated the ranger?
RING-A-DING PICNIC BASKET, the third 'Curtin' scored episode, was animated by Marshall and (like all 'Curtin' episodes) prominently features the 'modern' Ranger Smith. Marshall also animated BOOBY-TRAPPED BEAR, one of the 13 1960-61 episodes that still used the older 'Capital' score. The few earlier Yogi episodes he animated didn't feature the Ranger- at least not the modern version.
StillHowardFein
03-04-2009, 03:00 PM
São Paulo - SP, Brazil, February 6, 2009.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/Um4JGPlL19M/1.jpg Yogi's Pest Guest. Layout: Dan Noonan. Animated by Bill Keil.
Do you remember of this episode? That one of the Japanese bear?
Thank you for the screenshots showing Ranger as drawn by the various animators. It's especially surprising to see WB virtuoso Art Davis animating H-B characters (the angular bodies and 'dead eyes' are a giveaway!). And I wasn't aware that Bob Carr, best known for the later seasons of THE FLINTSTONES, was animating at H-B so early on.
One error, however: YOGI'S PEST GUEST was animated by Don Williams, who sojourned at H-B in the early-mid sixties after stints at Lantz and WB, and before his very long stay at DFE. Apparently WB inserted the wrong beginning credit sequence before this episode, inadvertently crediting Bill Keil.
Marty26
03-04-2009, 03:17 PM
I think Booby-Trapped Bear was actually the second of the 1960 cartoons (the first being, I believe, Oinks And Boinks). The last cartoon to use the Capitol Records music (also from 1960) was IIRC Bear-Faced Disguise. Which used a Ranger Smith model that was somewhat similar to the model he'd have in cartoons like Iron Hand Jones and Missile-Bound Bear.
A lot of animation sources, however, incorrectly mix Bear-Faced Bear with Bear-Faced Disguise in their "Chronological List Of Yogi Bear Cartoons." The former actually being a 1959 cartoon and probably the last Yogi Bear short to not feature Boo-Boo.
rodinei1964
03-04-2009, 06:47 PM
Thank you for the screenshots showing Ranger as drawn by the various animators. It's especially surprising to see WB virtuoso Art Davis animating H-B characters (the angular bodies and 'dead eyes' are a giveaway!). And I wasn't aware that Bob Carr, best known for the later seasons of THE FLINTSTONES, was animating at H-B so early on.
One error, however: YOGI'S PEST GUEST was animated by Don Williams, who sojourned at H-B in the early-mid sixties after stints at Lantz and WB, and before his very long stay at DFE. Apparently WB inserted the wrong beginning credit sequence before this episode, inadvertently crediting Bill Keil.
I'll fix this detail.
Fibber Fox
03-05-2009, 11:26 AM
One error, however: YOGI'S PEST GUEST was animated by Don Williams, who sojourned at H-B in the early-mid sixties after stints at Lantz and WB, and before his very long stay at DFE. Apparently WB inserted the wrong beginning credit sequence before this episode, inadvertently crediting Bill Keil.
Howard, where is there an accurate source for the credits of these cartoons?
F. Fox.
Marty26
03-05-2009, 02:32 PM
Could somebody please post this and Boo-Boo Runs Wild on Youtube? Neither of these cartoons is on DVD or VHS. And I doubt CN will be airing them again anytime soon.
StillHowardFein
03-05-2009, 03:52 PM
Howard, where is there an accurate source for the credits of these cartoons? F. Fox.
Hard to say. The best overall source is The Big Cartoon Database http://www.bcdb.com/cartoons/index.html, which in turn draws its credit information from circulating prints of the cartoons from DVD or TV. But in the case of the 1958-61 H-B shorts, it's not so simple.
They all had 'dedicated' episode-specific theatrical-style opening credit sequences, many of which have been lopped away in syndication- leaving only the title card. In recent years WHV restored the credit sequences for all the 1958-59 Huck and 1960-61 Yogi cartoons- including the back-up segments. In their rare showings on Boomerang, the Snooper & Blabber and Augie Doggie shorts retain their full sequences. The Quick Draw openings have been cut down to remove the credits, as have the 1959-60 Huck, Yogi and Meece cartoons and most Hokey, Snagglepuss and Yakky cartoons.
But even when present, the title sequences are often attached to the wrong cartoon- hence Bill Keil incorrectly given animation credit for Yogi's Pest Guest. That only leaves ones' personal knowledge of specific animator traits to identify who animated a given short, and was the only way to do so for many years. Fortunately, Don Williams' H-B style is very distinctive- and it helped that Williams animated another Yogi short Queen Bee For A Day in close proximity. And obviously, most animation buffs can readily identify an early H-B short animated by Muse, Vinci, Lundy, Love or Patterson! Identifying background artist is another issue entirely.
Misrepresentation of credits (which has also plagued THE FLINTSTONES, THE JETSONS and TOP CAT for years) has always been a problem. So too have been the 'gang credit' system used in the closing credit sequences of most TV cartoons from 1964 on- obviously by economic necessity. So those early H-B title sequences helped me learn how to identify the various animator styles. Likewise, the episode-specific writer credits following THE JETSONS and (the last four seasons of) THE FLINTSTONES educated on me on various writing styles. (It's pretty much a given that an episode in which Fred or Barney get pancaked, or 'see stars' at least twice, was written by Tony Benedict.;) )
To this date, there is animation in TOP CAT and the second season of THE FLINTSTONES I can't identify due to lack of specific credits for those episodes.
So in answer to your question, there really isn't. It's just luck and individual knowledge.
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